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Wouldn't this be horribly unfortunate?

  • 13-03-2011 4:07pm
    #1
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭


    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?


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  • #2
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?

    Most idiotic thread i've ever seen on Boards.ie


  • #3
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?

    You've been watching The French Connection part two haven't you!


  • #4
    deathrider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Depends... Do they charge you for the hit?


  • #5
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    You have been watching french connection 2 again. Go on tell the truth


  • #6
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?

    They'd have to do it to you three or four days in a row. Odd thread though man.


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  • #7
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    For a start, I'm pretty sure you don't get hooked on one hit


  • #8
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Most idiotic thread i've ever seen on Boards.ie

    Stay around, there will be another one in a few minutes!
    Trust me... :pac:


  • #9
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Most idiotic thread i've ever seen on Boards.ie

    Hmm really? I think this thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056161486 gives it a good run for its money...."oh I was asked for a student card, I am so offended, I must start a thread about it" :rolleyes:


  • #10
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Biggins wrote: »
    You've been watching The French Connection part two haven't you!
    Joey the lips wrote: »
    You have been watching french connection 2 again. Go on tell the truth

    LOL Great minds think alike.

    He probably got the new HD boxset!


  • #11
    Jumpy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Erm OP ... have you ever had surgery? You know the pre-surgery injection you get? Thats almost the same thing.

    Are you hooked on it?


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  • #12
    deathrider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    Hmm really? I think this thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056161486 gives it a good run for its money...."oh I was asked for a student card, I am so offended, I must start a thread about it" :rolleyes:

    So you can get student discounts on heroin?


  • #13
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    Hmm really? I think this thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056161486 gives it a good run for its money...."oh I was asked for a student card, I am so offended, I must start a thread about it" :rolleyes:
    If you think that's stupid you haven't seen the original thread.


  • #14
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?

    you do realise thats not how it works at all, yeah?

    NOTHING is immediately addictive


  • #15
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    strobe wrote: »
    They'd have to do it to you three or four days in a row. Odd thread though man.
    Agent Smith wrote: »
    For a start, I'm pretty sure you don't get hooked on one hit

    Does it really take more than one hit before addiction occurs?

    But yeah, odd thread, but sure makes a change from this government crap.


  • #16
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Agent Smith wrote: »
    For a start, I'm pretty sure you don't get hooked on one hit

    Not sure about heroin but I know with the "Speedballs" apparently you can.
    Terrible stuff. No wonder some drug dealers give them out for free initially.


  • #17
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    If you think that's stupid you haven't seen the original thread.

    Which original thread?


  • #18
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Helix wrote: »
    you do realise thats not how it works at all, yeah?

    NOTHING is immediately addictive

    You've clearly never had a Snickers ice-cream.


  • #19
    Pauleta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    You wouldnt be addicted after an experience like that. You would most likely be turned off forever. It would be a very bad hit, it wont be enjoyable in the slightest. Whilst most heroin addicts need heroin at 1st to get away from some sort of life problem. It starts off as a mental addiction.


  • #20
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    Which original thread?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056074758

    As of yet, nothing has matched that.



    If you ever take the time to read it. Read it from the start and not at the end.


  • #21
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    There was a series done a few years ago about foreign gangs in the UK. One of the gangs was heavy into ATM hacking etc, and wanted to recruit a programmer to work for them. After the guy refused, the gang grabbed him and did a Popeye Doyle, getting him addicted to heroin. After that, he had no trouble working for them. They'd obviously seen French Connection 2 as well.:(


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  • #22
    0verblood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭0verblood


    Why would they waste their heroin on you?


  • #23
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    actually that went through my head too after I saw french connection I think it was :eek:


  • #24
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    Does it really take more than one hit before addiction occurs?

    But yeah, odd thread, but sure makes a change from this government crap.

    It takes 3-4 days use in a row to develop the physical addiction. You could use 2 days on 2 days off for ever without becoming physically addicted to heroin, and a lot of people try to do that when they start using, just use two or three times a week with breaks in between but heroin is a little moorish and most end up using several days in a row. You could argue that the psychological addiction could happen instantly but in your example of someone being held down and spiked that would be pretty unlikely.


  • #25
    gamgsam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭gamgsam


    Injecting the dose an average junkie is on would kill you.


  • #26
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    0verblood wrote: »
    Why would they waste their heroin on you?

    Its like what a well know chocolate company does in the 3rd world:

    They give free samples of baby powder - Mothers milk dries up and then are forced to buy the formula -

    One isnt gonna get you addicted though if the dealer some how convienced you to do it through peer presure then there probably is a chance you could become addicted!

    If he holds you down and injects you, well you're more than likely find the experience to tramatic and wouldnt want to do it again!


  • #27
    gamgsam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭gamgsam


    strobe wrote: »
    It takes 3-4 days use in a row to develop the physical addiction. You could use 2 days on 2 days off for ever without becoming physically addicted to heroin, and a lot of people try to do that when they start using, just use two or three times a week with breaks in between but heroin is a little moorish and most end up using several days in a row. You could argue that the psychological addiction could happen instantly but in your example of someone being held down and spiked that would be pretty unlikely.

    Have you got references for that? Would you become desensitised using the same method?


  • #28
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    gamgsam wrote: »
    Have you got references for that? Would you become desensitised using the same method?

    I don't have references. It's from personal experience but I'm sure you could find something if you google around a bit.

    I'm not sure what you mean by desensitised. You wouldn't have to raise your dosage much if that's what you mean, tolerance wouldn't develop but like with anything you might use more just to push the boundaries in the same way that some people will drink 12 pints when they know they only need to drink 6 to get drunk.


  • #29
    Turpentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?

    Coupled with a craving for Hershey bars if that Gene Hackman documentary is anything to go by.


  • #30
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?
    An aptly titled thread!


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  • #31
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    I'd be more worried about getting a disease tbh.


  • #32
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Biggins wrote: »
    Not sure about heroin but I know with the "Speedballs" apparently you can.
    Terrible stuff. No wonder some drug dealers give them out for free initially.
    Speedballs are a coke/heroin combo. They are indeed horrible **** but one would still not develop physical dependence from a single hit. This notion is most likely media scaremongering and/or rumour and hearsay amongst concerned parents terrified over a polydrug their children will never encounter in their lives.

    Nothing causes physical depenance from a single hit.


  • #33
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Speedballs are a coke/heroin combo. They are indeed horrible **** but one would still not develop physical dependence from a single hit. This notion is most likely media scaremongering and/or rumour and hearsay amongst concerned parents terrified over a polydrug their children will never encounter in their lives.

    Nothing causes physical depenance from a single hit.
    Well according to some I've spoke to (on the ground dealing with such problems and in the medical profession), they say different.
    We'll have to agree to disagree.


  • #34
    Fremen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    ...if a big junkbag of a drug dealer and his scummy mates held you down and injected you with heroin.

    Just think of it...you're hooked straight away, and ensnared by the smack, to the point where you'll be strung out daily.

    Wonder are there any reported cases of this happening?

    Wouldn't they be much better off holding you down and taking your wallet?


  • #35
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I wonder if you were a plumber and got called out to a girl's flat, you'd actually fix the problem, or spend the rest of the day shagging the three naked women who opened the door....:confused:


  • #36
    dan185
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭dan185


    Helix wrote: »
    you do realise thats not how it works at all, yeah?

    NOTHING is immediately addictive

    shagging me is:pac:


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  • #37
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Biggins wrote: »
    Well according to some I've spoke to (on the ground dealing with such problems and in the medical profession), they say different.
    We'll have to agree to disagree.
    It's not really a case of opinion. There is no pharmacological mechanism that would cause you to develop a physical addiction after a single use.

    I'm sure a speedball feels like paradise so I guess it's certainly possible one could develop a psychological addiction if they really took a shine to it.


  • #38
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    ...I'm sure a speedball feels like paradise so I guess it's certainly possible one could develop a psychological addiction if they really took a shine to it.
    I think thats the aspect they were referring to.
    I understand the physical addiction aspects just based around one hit.
    As you say, for some however on a psychological level, it can be very dangerous with these types of substances with some.


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