a Veyron coming here again?

Seth Brundle

Its probably about time that I started playing golf.
No roughing it for Rory as he buys €1.5m car

will1977

Id love to see him try and get insured on it !!

BigEejit

Article says he is worth €4million and he is blowing €1.5million on the car. Yikes.

Max Power1

BigEejit wrote: »

Article says he is worth €4million and he is blowing €1.5million on the car. Yikes.

Well if I was in his financial position I'd probably do the exact same thing!

Daegerty

If I was worth 4 million I'd take out a loan for 1 million and buy the last remaining

1965 Chrysler Turbine car

mickdw

It probably the cheapest car he will ever buy. Not going to lose alot on that I would think.

gbee

mickdw wrote: »

It probably the cheapest car he will ever buy. Not going to lose alot on that I would think.

On the contrary, they become worthless. They have no real-world resale value at all. If it were a celebrity who bought it, a celebrity peer might pay something close to it for the sake of owning a car bought by a bigger celebrity.

Golf, does not move in these circles though.

mickdw

gbee wrote: »

On the contrary, they become worthless.

Why do you say that? How mcuh can one be got for now then?

Alanstrainor

mickdw wrote: »

Why do you say that? How mcuh can one be got for now then?

About the same as a daysel octy i think

Max Power1

gbee wrote: »

On the contrary, they become worthless. They have no real-world resale value at all. If it were a celebrity who bought it, a celebrity peer might pay something close to it for the sake of owning a car bought by a bigger celebrity.

Golf, does not move in these circles though.

:rolleyes:

Lol at the sheer insanity of that comment.

If they are actually worthless where do i get one for free?

Hotwheels

Fair play to him, good to see people still buying cars like the Veyron

mondeo

The police would be living n your backside driving around Ireland in a car like that. Who would insure you on it? Lol

gbee

None of ye watch top gear, apparently. Those guys buy super cars for tiny money and do silly things with them.

The fact is there is no resale value for these supercars. Simple. Just like a piece of art in the gallery being priceless, it's priceless because no one can afford to buy them.

Ye don't understand the rich either, they would not buy this car second-hand, there is no prestige in buying second hand period.

There is an exception as I've outlined. I frankly expected motor enthusiasts to know this.

dharn

a lot depends on how many are made it could be worth more than he paid for it in say 20 years time if there not many of them made and thousand horsepower cars go out of existance

jamieh

Rory just tweeted to say the Veyron story is BS:

'Reports that I have bought a bugatti veyron are completely untrue! Where do they come up with this stuff!?
Don't get me wrong, it's one of the best cars ever. But a million quid for a car? Really? Not for me!'

Looks like he's sticking with the matt black R8!

-Corkie-

jamieh wrote: »

Rory just tweeted to say the Veyron story is BS:

'Reports that I have bought a bugatti veyron are completely untrue! Where do they come up with this stuff!?
Don't get me wrong, it's one of the best cars ever. But a million quid for a car? Really? Not for me!'

Looks like he's sticking with the matt black R8!

Oh well thats enough so..:)

paddydriver

He just got his beloved R8 matt black'ed - that was supposedly his dream car.

Got the twitter post too and he is laughing it off. To be fair - he does seem like a down to earth guy (according to his twitter anyway:p).

He is late late next Friday I think so tubby can put it to him.

another well-researched sindo article.... a veyron in nordieland would be a waste in any case - doesn't have the roads of posability to handle it!

rabbitinlights

gbee wrote: »

None of ye watch top gear, apparently. Those guys buy super cars for tiny money and do silly things with them.

The fact is there is no resale value for these supercars. Simple. Just like a piece of art in the gallery being priceless, it's priceless because no one can afford to buy them.

Ye don't understand the rich either, they would not buy this car second-hand, there is no prestige in buying second hand period.

There is an exception as I've outlined. I frankly expected motor enthusiasts to know this.

That is one of the stupidest posts I think I've ever read.

S.

-Corkie-

gbee wrote: »

None of ye watch top gear, apparently. Those guys buy super cars for tiny money and do silly things with them

They are normally buckets of dung that cannot make it half ways across the UK without blowing up. Some difference in that and a used Veyron.;)

Cyrus

rabbitinlights wrote: »

That is one of the stupidest posts I think I've ever read.

S.

i was going to respond to it but where do you start

mickdw

gbee wrote: »

None of ye watch top gear, apparently. Those guys buy super cars for tiny money and do silly things with them.

The fact is there is no resale value for these supercars. Simple. Just like a piece of art in the gallery being priceless, it's priceless because no one can afford to buy them.

Ye don't understand the rich either, they would not buy this car second-hand, there is no prestige in buying second hand period.

There is an exception as I've outlined. I frankly expected motor enthusiasts to know this.

You dont seem to know the difference between worthless and priceless.

gofaster_s13

gbee wrote: »

On the contrary, they become worthless. They have no real-world resale value at all. If it were a celebrity who bought it, a celebrity peer might pay something close to it for the sake of owning a car bought by a bigger celebrity.

Golf, does not move in these circles though.

Arent the Mclaren F1(original price £600,000 current price £2,000,000+), the Ferrari F40 and the Lancia Stratos worth more now than when originally on sale ?

dahamsta

glasso wrote: »

another well-researched sindo article.

He must've threatened them too, cos they've taken it down. Morons.

-Corkie-

dahamsta wrote: »

He must've threatened them too, cos they've taken it down. Morons.

The standard of journalism is this country is pathetic.

pburns

I'm actually glad - for him - that the story is fake. A budding young sportsmen blowing such huge wads of flash cash before he's started fulfilling his potential would be a disaster waiting to happen.

VolvoMan

Ironically, I was actually talking to the original Irish Veyron owner last night.

dharn

may have posted this before but i will post again anyway !!

staker

VolvoMan wrote: »

Ironically, I was actually talking to the original Irish Veyron owner last night.

Does he take it out?
Any chance of seeing it down my way?

Leslie91

pburns wrote: »

I'm actually glad - for him - that the story is fake. A budding young sportsmen blowing such huge wads of flash cash before he's started fulfilling his potential would be a disaster waiting to happen.

I hope it stays fake too. I don't think buying one of these things is proper for anybody other than an oil Sheikh or someone else so ridiculously rich that it doesn't matter.

I hope the R8 is the height of it.

VolvoMan

staker wrote: »

Does he take it out?
Any chance of seeing it down my way?

It's not in the country at the moment I don't think. It's in the UK at the moment and he's planning to take it to Spain sometime in the future.

RobAMerc

does anyone else think the Veyron is a little over hyped ? ( mainly due to TG I must say ). OK the thing proved shockingly quick in a straight line but on the track it was only mediocre - if any one of a stack of US built cars performed the same it would be scoffed at. As a technological tour de force should it not be lighting up the Nordschleife - not struggling to beat Skyline GTR's etc?

dharn

you are probably right but there is something very exotic about it i suppose the bugatti name for a start also i think it is so understated is probably why it works so well

rabbitinlights

The Veyron was never designed for the track.

RobAMerc

rabbitinlights wrote: »

The Veyron was never designed for the track.

I'm not suggesting the Veyron is an out and out track car, but nor are a string of road cars that are quicker than it. the track is a fairly good pointer as to the dynamics of the car.

VolvoMan

RobAMerc wrote: »

does anyone else think the Veyron is a little over hyped ? ( mainly due to TG I must say ). OK the thing proved shockingly quick in a straight line but on the track it was only mediocre - if any one of a stack of US built cars performed the same it would be scoffed at. As a technological tour de force should it not be lighting up the Nordschleife - not struggling to beat Skyline GTR's etc?

I totally agree. There is not one single thing I find appealing about it. It is ugly, heavy and hardly innnovative next to cars that have gone before like the McLaren F1. That car gained its title of " fastest car in the world" without the use of a gazillion turbos or numerous electronic aids to stop it sliding off the track.

Even the guy I talked to who owns one half regrets buying it.

zom

gofaster_s13 wrote: »

Arent the Mclaren F1(original price £600,000 current price £2,000,000+), the Ferrari F40 and the Lancia Stratos worth more now than when originally on sale ?

With that logic, he should buy it, and all fans who wish him all the best, should be happy with it? Now paying 1.5M then it might be worth 2M?

RobAMerc

zom wrote: »

With that logic, he should buy it, and all fans who wish him all the best, should be happy with it? Now paying 1.5M then it might be worth 2M?

I don't think he'd ever loose money on it unless he wrote it off. Cars like this may dip in value for a while but will become collectors items to someone and at that point provenance would be a big issue. Imagine if Tiger bought one it would instantly be worth more than the new price. If RM bought it he could look at it as simply gambling on himself to becoming the next Tiger woods !

Paparazzo

VolvoMan wrote: »

It's not in the country at the moment I don't think. It's in the UK at the moment and he's planning to take it to Spain sometime in the future.

Any idea how much it cost him to buy it? It was irish registered wasn't it? Some serious VRT on that

pburns

VolvoMan wrote: »

I totally agree. There is not one single thing I find appealing about it. It is ugly, heavy and hardly innnovative next to cars that have gone before like the McLaren F1. That car gained its title of " fastest car in the world" without the use of a gazillion turbos or numerous electronic aids to stop it sliding off the track.

Even the guy I talked to who owns one half regrets buying it.

I don't get it either. Not particularly a McLaren fan but the F1 was much more significant. Not much bigger than a 911, relatively light weight, great handling. And it hit the big numbers too even though that was not what Gordon Murray et al were about. They simply wanted to produce the BEST supercar.

There are things i don't like about it - central driving position is a bit bizarre frankly and using gold foil a a heat shield is either genius or insanity - i'm not sure which! The looks are...OK...a bit soulless perhaps.

But, but....as an achievement and a driving tool it sounds miles ahead of the Veyron. Lets face it, a lot of people know about the Bugatti solely because it featured so prominently on TG and are simply parroting Clarkson...

rabbitinlights

VolvoMan wrote: »

hardly innnovative next to cars that have gone before like the McLaren F1.

Care to expand on that a little more?

Doom

BigEejit wrote: »

Article says he is worth €4million and he is blowing €1.5million on the car. Yikes.

1.5 million today, worth 3 million in 5yrs........not so dumb:cool:

VolvoMan

rabbitinlights wrote: »

Care to expand on that a little more?

What more is there to expand on? The F1 was a car that managed to be a lightweight, as well as the fastest production car in the world at the time.

The fact that they had to strap four turbos to two welded together VAG engines in the Bugatti and pack it full of overly complex and heavy technology is hardly automotive engineering progress in my eyes.

Paparazzo

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Two completely different cars designed with two completely different design philosophies. I am not a huge fan of them but you have to give credit where credit is due. Put it another way, drive across Europe in a Veyron and watch the miles clock up. Then do it in a F1 and see how you feel!

Yeah, too much emphasis is put on whats fastest around a track.

RobAMerc

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Two completely different cars designed with two completely different design philosophies. I am not a huge fan of them but you have to give credit where credit is due. Put it another way, drive across Europe in a Veyron and watch the miles clock up. Then do it in a F1 and see how you feel!

But why not buy a Bently Conti GT, a Ferrari 599 or a S63 AMG for a blast across Europe in a car that's fast enough to go as fast as you could possibly go. ( And the Ferrari would be bloody good on the track too ! ).

The F1 or F40 even were renowned as a fine drivers car - the ultimate track cars - real driving enthusiasts cars. They Veyron is just a nuclear reactor strapped onto a Mk1 Audi TT to make headlines.

Seth Brundle

RobAMerc wrote: »

But why not buy a Bently Conti GT, a Ferrari 599 or a S63 AMG for a blast across Europe in a car that's fast enough to go as fast as you could possibly go. ( And the Ferrari would be bloody good on the track too ! ).

The F1 or F40 even were renowned as a fine drivers car - the ultimate track cars - real driving enthusiasts cars. They Veyron is just a nuclear reactor strapped onto a Mk1 Audi TT to make headlines.

Not everyone would want an F40 or F1 (although I would)
Personally, if I was sufficiently rich that I could comfortably buy a veyron, I would! And if I did, I wouldn't care what others who couldn't afford one thought.

Anyway, its a nuclear reactor strapped to a Mk1 Audi TT - woo hoo

Tea 1000

RobAMerc wrote: »

does anyone else think the Veyron is a little over hyped ? ( mainly due to TG I must say ). OK the thing proved shockingly quick in a straight line but on the track it was only mediocre - if any one of a stack of US built cars performed the same it would be scoffed at. As a technological tour de force should it not be lighting up the Nordschleife - not struggling to beat Skyline GTR's etc?

As was said, it wasn't built as a track car. And yet the SuperSport did beat everything else around the Top Gear track.

VolvoMan wrote: »

I totally agree. There is not one single thing I find appealing about it. It is ugly, heavy and hardly innnovative next to cars that have gone before like the McLaren F1. That car gained its title of " fastest car in the world" without the use of a gazillion turbos or numerous electronic aids to stop it sliding off the track.

Even the guy I talked to who owns one half regrets buying it.

Criticising it for using turbo's is stupid. All the quick Volvo's have turbo's, but I've never seen you knock them for it?
Both those cars are designed with completely different design briefs. If you can't understand that then you never will.
Besides, if you can afford a Veyron then go buy a V8 Atom for the weekend track kicks.
The Veyron is awesome. No keyboard knocking it can change that. Nor can it change the fact that the 2 tonne car is 10 seconds quicker to 200mph than the McLaren F1...

bladebrew

it is technically amazing, the running costs are fairly incredible, apparently £23,000 for tyres evry 2500miles, and a service costs £13,645,
wheels and tyres are £29,000, not sure how true this is but i think it is a car that will only increase in value,
and an indicator stalk from one cost more than my car did:eek:

and 11.7mpg is combined fuel economy,

if i won this weeks lotto i still wouldnt buy one,

Alanstrainor

bladebrew wrote: »

it is technically amazing, the running costs are fairly incredible, apparently £23,000 for tyres evry 2500miles, and a service costs £13,645,
wheels and tyres are £29,000, not sure how true this is but i think it is a car that will only increase in value,
and an indicator stalk from one cost more than my car did:eek:

and 11.7mpg is combined fuel economy,

if i won this weeks lotto i still wouldnt buy one,

I read that all four wheels have to be replaced at 7500 miles too! At £29900!

mikeystipey

jamieh wrote: »

Rory just tweeted to say the Veyron story is BS:

'Reports that I have bought a bugatti veyron are completely untrue! Where do they come up with this stuff!?
Don't get me wrong, it's one of the best cars ever. But a million quid for a car? Really? Not for me!'

Looks like he's sticking with the matt black R8!

cheers for this! Took it as true, bloody Indo!

H8GHOTI

Anyone know what these tweets are about?
What did the article say before they changed it?

Rory McIlroy on Twitter wrote:

This article is total bollocks!! I'll never do anything for the belfast telegraph again!! http://is.gd/6cbONa

I see the Belfast telegraph have edited the story. Still very sloppy journalism. Disappointing!