Signet Visonic Compatibility ?

shazzah99

Are Signet and Visonic 868mhz wireless devices compatible with each other?

They all appear to be made by visonic but the net is scant on whether they are compatible, although there is a hint of it, nothing in writing.

I have a Signet Wireless Keypad would it work with an Visonic Alarm KeyFob / Wireless PIR and Wireless Door Sensor ?

Much Appreciated

altor

shazzah99 wrote: »

Are Signet and Visonic 868mhz wireless devices compatible with each other?

They all appear to be made by visonic but the net is scant on whether they are compatible, although there is a hint of it, nothing in writing.

I have a Signet Wireless Keypad would it work with an Visonic Alarm KeyFob / Wireless PIR and Wireless Door Sensor ?

Much Appreciated

Yes, that is correct. Although they are made by Visonic they use a different code so it is not advisable to use the sensors with the other system. That is straight from Visonic. Visonic sensors will have Visonic sticker on them and the box and the sensors made for the Signet have a Europlex sticker on them.

KoolKid

The keyfobs work fine.
All other devices are coded & a SigNET system will not even see them.

Jnealon

Visonic sensors will work with a 200 and 300 once you have a license key

KoolKid

Jnealon wrote: »

Visonic sensors will work with a 200 and 300 once you have a license key

Interesting!
And is it possible to obtain those keys?

shazzah99

it is not advisable to use the sensors

That doesn't worry me, not on support.

KoolKid wrote: »

The keyfobs work fine.

Interesting!
And is it possible to obtain those keys?

Keyfob...excellent!

Hmmm yeah that would be good, as visonic are honestly easier to get hold of on fleabay. Warranty or support isn't an issue..

KoolKid

Support wouldn't be a major issue.
I rekon once the panel sees them & accepts the device you will have no issues.

shazzah99

KoolKid wrote: »

Support wouldn't be a major issue.
I rekon once the panel sees them & accepts the device you will have no issues.

Yep might be worth a play. :pac:

KoolKid

It might also be worth waiting to see what jnealon's solution is.

shazzah99

KoolKid wrote: »

It might also be worth waiting to see what jnealon's solution is.

Your not wrong LOL....could be the parting of the waves

altor

Jnealon wrote: »

Visonic sensors will work with a 200 and 300 once you have a license key

Very interesting, where do you get the license key from ?

KoolKid

altor wrote: »

Very interesting, where do you get the license key from ?

Thats what I want to know.
On a decent size job it would cover the extra cost of the 200.:D

altor

KoolKid wrote: »

Thats what I want to know.
On a decent size job it would cover the extra cost of the 200.:D

Thats correct as the difference in price of the sensors makes no sense since they are made by the same company. Got nowhere making inquiries today :P

shazzah99

altor wrote: »

Thats correct as the difference in price of the sensors makes no sense since they are made by the same company. Got nowhere making inquiries today :P

http://www.rspl.ie/reliablesecurity/main/Products_SigNET_Expanders_Keypads.htm ....somebody knows something.......

Signet Wireless Gateway Expander Features

- 868 MHz
- Compatible with Visonic Powercode devices
- Plastic housing

Jnealon

shazzah99 wrote: »

http://www.rspl.ie/reliablesecurity/main/Products_SigNET_Expanders_Keypads.htm ....somebody knows something.......

Signet Wireless Gateway Expander Features

- 868 MHz
- Compatible with Visonic Powercode devices
- Plastic housing

That's not a wireless expander in the pic.
They are very useful for large jobs, not so much in your standard domestic

Jnealon

KoolKid wrote: »

It might also be worth waiting to see what jnealon's solution is.

As you've never heard of this before I suggest you ring tech support.
It is a similar procedure to upgrading the old firmware when a key was needed

KoolKid

Are you saying Europlex support this?
I have spoken to them before on Visonic vs Europlex devices.

shazzah99

Jnealon wrote: »

As you've never heard of this before I suggest you ring tech support.
It is a similar procedure to upgrading the old firmware when a key was needed

As tech isn't an option for me as I am not a customer nor a buyer nor a reseller nor installer. Any suggestions ?..

how do I know if my panel is already unlocked or not ?

KoolKid

The licence key removal is only an option for upgrading from a Visonic panel to a SigNET 200 or 300.
If will not be supplied or supported by Europlex just to let you install Visonic devices.

altor

How are they to know you are up grading
Handy to know there is a way around getting the key.

KoolKid

Well I don't think they are going to be doing it on a regular basis for you.

altor

KoolKid wrote: »

Well I don't think they are going to be doing it on a regular basis for you.

As with everything there is a catch. You need to connect the 200 or 300 up to a labtop plus give them the serial code off the alarm to be able to do this. Handy though if you are installing a big enough system.

KoolKid

Or as I H said to me, if you were replacing a Visonic panel with SigNET they would be happy to oblidge.
Europlex certinly arn't going to do this so you can trot off to Visonic & buy your sensors etc...

shazzah99

altor wrote: »

As with everything there is a catch. You need to connect the 200 or 300 up to a labtop plus give them the serial code off the alarm to be able to do this. Handy though if you are installing a big enough system.

* Laptop Check
* USB Driver Check - Type A cable
* Connect to Computer Check
* Browse to 192.168.5.1 Check
* Login as Engineer....Check
* Switch to Full Engineer... Check
* Settings...Check
* Advanced.....Check
* Licence......??? Now thats why I started this thread

@altor "it is only for engineers" and you were saying :cool:

altor

shazzah99 wrote: »

* Laptop Check
* USB Driver Check - Type A cable
* Connect to Computer Check
* Browse to 192.168.5.1 Check
* Login as Engineer....Check
* Switch to Full Engineer... Check
* Settings...Check
* Advanced.....Check
* Licence......??? Now thats why I started this thread

@altor "it is only for engineers" and you were saying :cool:

Thats the easy bit, have you got the license key ?

shazzah99

altor wrote: »

Thats the easy bit, have you got the license key ?

That I admit.....is why I am here ! and why I asked in the first place..

altor

shazzah99 wrote: »

@altor "it is only for engineers" as I was saying :cool:

shazzah99

altor wrote: »

Alas I will have to be one, if I can, then, will have to wait, need to re-wire the panel tomorrow.

@KoolKid thanks for the tip on the remote, spot on....that's 16 quid + postage can't be bad, worked a treat.

altor

shazzah99 wrote: »

Alas I will have to be one

Thats the only way Europlex will allow you have the code.
Sorry I could not help you anymore..

shazzah99

altor wrote: »

Thats the only way Europlex will allow you have the code.
Sorry I could not help you anymore..

no worries. thanks anyways

altor

shazzah99 wrote: »

no worries. thanks anyways

Your welcome.

useurname

I login over IP to my signet 220, and dont see 'settings' option as you outlayed when logging in via usb, nor any where in the software is there indications of licence.

Q how do I verify if the visonic wireless hardware will work with my system, wireless board built in?

KoolKid

Goto Engineer>Full Engineer>Settings>Advanced>Licence
This will show you the current licence key and give you the option to enter a new one. The only way to know if it's licenced for all visonic devices is to try one. Although ,unless you have changed the licence key before it won't be.
However the remote key fobs will work regardless.