What shops/services does Wexford town really need?

Mocrie14

Interested to hear peoples opinions on what shops/services they really feed the town or general area could do with..

A PC world type store would be a very welcome addition in my opinion and would do very well...

Dinkie

I would love an asian shop where you can buy cheap spices, rice, seafood etc. Not sure if there would actually be a market or not for it.

St Senan

Bazbu wrote: »

Interested to hear peoples opinions on what shops/services they really feed the town or general area could do with..

A PC world type store would be a very welcome addition in my opinion and would do very well...

What all towns in Ireland need http://www.walmart.com/

WexfordWarrior

well a pc world is definately needed !! tk maxx would be nice as well!! and more mens clothes shops! some proper broadband that actually works and can give us a better speed than 3mb!

if i can think of anything else ill let u know ! its early in the morning so i will think of more !

JayEnnis

scaller wrote: »

What all towns in Ireland need http://www.walmart.com/

I hope you're being sarcastic?

St Senan

JayEnnis wrote: »

I hope you're being sarcastic?

Why do ask that.

JayEnnis

I suggest you watch this

Link

St Senan

I had a feeling you were either going to link that Vid or mention its treatment of its workers. I will rephrase my origional post what every town in Ireland needs is a Massive Hypermarket/Supermarket thats sells everything from a Needle to a Speedboat.

JayEnnis

scaller wrote: »

I had a feeling you were either going to link that Vid or mention its treatment of its workers. I will rephrase my origional post what every town in Ireland needs is a Massive Hypermarket/Supermarket thats sells everything from a Needle to a speedBoat.

And put every other specialist shop out of business and export all the profits to the U.S? Sure that sounds great. Treatment of workers is the least of the worries if a huge chain like that came to town. I agree that some of the shops in town charge extortionate prices and that issue needs to be addressed but walmart is not the answer.

St Senan

JayEnnis wrote: »

And put every other specialist shop out of business and export all the profits to the U.S? Sure that sounds great. Treatment of workers is the least of the worries if a huge chain like that came to town. I agree that some of the shops in town charge extortionate prices and that issue needs to be addressed but walmart is not the answer.

A big Hypermarket Is needed in most towns. I used Wallmart as an Example. Sorry for pinching a Nerve with you But here is an Example of Keeping the Busniess local.
Tesco was blocked from opening up in Enniscorthy by the so called specialist shops now look at Enniscorthy compared to Gorey Newross and Wexford take a drive to any of these towns on a Sunday and see how many people from Enniscorthy shop in these 3 towns. The so called specialist shops in Enniscorthy are to mean to pay staff to work on a Sunday. The places that are open on Sunday in Enniscorthy are Aldi, Lidl, Dunnes, the River Restaurent and the Chinese €2 shop.

JayEnnis

Tesco is completely different from walmart. I know you were only using it as an example but a store along the style of walmart would completely destroy the local economy. Having experienced them while in the states they stock everything from plumbing goods, gardening goods, firearms, electronics etc..

I know tesco is similar but on a much smaller scale. I would agree that Enniscorthy (I live there as well) needs a tesco/shopping centre in the town, not outside it. But a hypermarket is out of the question. Enniscorthy has never had much going for it, it needs incentives for people to visit the town and sound business planning. The business models for shops in Enniscorthy are outdated, thats what needs to be improved on to get people to shop in the town. Sure look at whites in the square, they still have 10 year old cd's on sale. The attitude of entitlement by some of the shops stinks. But there are some shops which provide great services and they are the ones that would suffer. Smiths is one that comes to mind along with the art shop on slaney street. One or two mens clothes shops with reasonably priced good quality clothes wouldn't go astray either (I'm not talking the likes of JD sports). Most businesses would rather suffer a loss of profits than lower prices and thats the sad fact.

/Rant

R3al

JayEnnis wrote: »

... I would agree that Enniscorthy (I live there as well) needs a tesco/shopping centre in the town, not outside it. ...

I would disagree, shopping centres should be built on the outskirts of towns for a number of reasons such as parking availability, easier access for housing estates and non town residents people visiting the centre, better transport links (if placed near main roads) as well as protecting the smaller established shops in town centres.

The shopping centre in Arklow is within walking distance of the main shopping street and has damaged the level of trade for the shops there, I know a couple of traders and they are finding it very difficult to continue and there are also a number of empty premises on the street, which is something you never saw before

Bearhunter

R3al wrote: »

I would disagree, shopping centres should be built on the outskirts of towns for a number of reasons such as parking availability, easier access for housing estates and non town residents people visiting the centre, better transport links (if placed near main roads) as well as protecting the smaller established shops in town centres.

The shopping centre in Arklow is within walking distance of the main shopping street and has damaged the level of trade for the shops there, I know a couple of traders and they are finding it very difficult to continue and there are also a number of empty premises on the street, which is something you never saw before

Well there is no shopping centre in Enniscorthy and the traders in town are struggling anyway. It's a dying town commercially. A mate of mine has a shop in Rafter Street and the only thing that stops him jacking it in is the total lack of any alternative employment. And he reckons the choice will be taken away from him soon anyway, the way business has been.

Building a shopping centre would increase employment in what is a jobs blackspot and also draw people from outside the town.

David900

scaller wrote: »

A big Hypermarket Is needed in most towns. I used Wallmart as an Example. Sorry for pinching a Nerve with you But here is an Example of Keeping the Busniess local.
Tesco was blocked from opening up in Enniscorthy by the so called specialist shops now look at Enniscorthy compared to Gorey Newross and Wexford take a drive to any of these towns on a Sunday and see how many people from Enniscorthy shop in these 3 towns. The so called specialist shops in Enniscorthy are to mean to pay staff to work on a Sunday. The places that are open on Sunday in Enniscorthy are Aldi, Lidl, Dunnes, the River Restaurent and the Chinese €2 shop.

I don't agree with your point to be honest, I doubt you have any proof of people from Enniscorthy shopping elsewhere? I couldn't disagree more with what you're saying. The population of Irish towns isn't big enough for a large hypermarket without compromising the local identity of these places. If you're are looking to America as an example, the towns with populations as big as Enniscorthy with Walmarts, it is all they have and little else, apart from maybe Burger King etc.

St Senan

David900 wrote: »

I don't agree with your point to be honest, I doubt you have any proof of people from Enniscorthy shopping elsewhere? I couldn't disagree more with what you're saying. The population of Irish towns isn't big enough for a large hypermarket without compromising the local identity of these places. If you're are looking to America as an example, the towns with populations as big as Enniscorthy with Walmarts, it is all they have and little else, apart from maybe Burger King etc.

As it was explained already I used Wallmart as an example. You can disagree all you like. If you are from Enniscorthy and want proof all you have to do is drive through the centre of Enniscorthy on any Sunday then leave the town and travel to Wexford town and out to Tesco. Or travel to Gorey and into the Shopping centre You also meet Enniscorthy people out Shopping in Carlow, Arklow, or Waterford. We even met some Enniscorthy Families in the whitewater shopping centre in Newbridge. So the truth be told Enniscorthy and its people were and are been deprived of a Shopping Centre thanks to the shop Keepers in the Centre of town.

Cantona's Collars

David900 wrote: »

I don't agree with your point to be honest, I doubt you have any proof of people from Enniscorthy shopping elsewhere? I couldn't disagree more with what you're saying. The population of Irish towns isn't big enough for a large hypermarket without compromising the local identity of these places. If you're are looking to America as an example, the towns with populations as big as Enniscorthy with Walmarts, it is all they have and little else, apart from maybe Burger King etc.

Have you ever taken a trip to any other town within an hours drive of Enniscorthy? People from New Ross complain about nothing in their town but I was down there the other day and was amazed at the amount of Enniscorthy people in Tesco there.
Every weekend there's a mass exodus of shoppers from Enniscorthy to other places for shopping,even if it's just for groceries-the majority of shoppers left seem to be the ones without their own transport,that's a fact as I personally know a lot of these people.Even the delivery van from Tesco in Wexford spends as much time in Enniscorthy as it does around Wexford Town.
You want proof-I gave you some examples,why not take a walk along the Main Street in Wexford this Saturday and see how many Enniscorthy people you meet.

Enniscorthy is dying a death,part of the veto on the new Shopping Plaza at Brownswood was the plan to build a shopping centre at Abbey Square,another pie in the sky pipe dream which was simply brought up by vested interests to block Tesco coming to town,one of the leaders of this campaign must be delighted to stand in his empty shop and marvel at the lack of shoppers in the town.I for one wouldn't dream of opening any store in the tiown as the amount of footfall wouldn't be sufficient to support it.
Even established local businesses have started door to door selling to try and get business-just shows how bad things are in the town when shops have to call to peoples houses to try and sell their wares.

David900

scaller wrote: »

As it was explained already I used Wallmart as an example. You can disagree all you like. If you are from Enniscorthy and want proof all you have to do is drive through the centre of Enniscorthy on any Sunday then leave the town and travel to Wexford town and out to Tesco. Or travel to Gorey and into the Shopping centre You also meet Enniscorthy people out Shopping in Carlow, Arklow, or Waterford. We even met some Enniscorthy Families in the whitewater shopping centre in Newbridge. So the truth be told Enniscorthy and its people were and are been deprived of a Shopping Centre thanks to the shop Keepers in the Centre of town.

I know those are your experiences so I can't doubt them but Enniscorthy people shopping in Newbridge defies logic tbh.
I don't really understand the point you are making. Are you saying Enniscorthy needs a shopping centre to entice people to shop there? If the shoppers are going to Wexford to shop they aren't going for a shopping centre as one doesn't exist there.
If Enniscorthy can't manage to keep local business alive with lower overheads, then a shopping centre wouldn't even make financial sense.

St Senan

zerks wrote: »

Have you ever taken a trip to any other town within an hours drive of Enniscorthy? People from New Ross complain about nothing in their town but I was down there the other day and was amazed at the amount of Enniscorthy people in Tesco there.
Every weekend there's a mass exodus of shoppers from Enniscorthy to other places for shopping,even if it's just for groceries-the majority of shoppers left seem to be the ones without their own transport,that's a fact as I personally know a lot of these people.Even the delivery van from Tesco in Wexford spends as much time in Enniscorthy as it does around Wexford Town.
You want proof-I gave you some examples,why not take a walk along the Main Street in Wexford this Saturday and see how many Enniscorthy people you meet.

Enniscorthy is dying a death,part of the veto on the new Shopping Plaza at Brownswood was the plan to build a shopping centre at Abbey Square,another pie in the sky pipe dream which was simply brought up by vested interests to block Tesco coming to town,one of the leaders of this campaign must be delighted to stand in his empty shop and marvel at the lack of shoppers in the town.I for one wouldn't dream of opening any store in the tiown as the amount of footfall wouldn't be sufficient to support it.
Even established local businesses have started door to door selling to try and get business-just shows how bad things are in the town when shops have to call to peoples houses to try and sell their wares.

Well said.

St Senan

David900 wrote: »

but Enniscorthy people shopping in Newbridge defies logic tbh.

How does it defy logic there is no shop open to keep them in Enniscorthy on Sundays.

I don't really understand the point you are making. Are you saying Enniscorthy needs a shopping centre to entice people to shop there? If the shoppers are going to Wexford to shop they aren't going for a shopping centre as one doesn't exist there

.

I think the point i am making is perfectly clear the other Poster Zerks seems to think so. I said before that i used Wallmart as an example. I could have said Asda Sainsburys or Morrisons.
I know Wexford don't have a shopping centre but they do have a Tesco. So has Newross, Gorey, Arklow and Tullow.

David900

I think I took you up wrong then, Walmart to me is a lot different from a Asda for example. Maybe thats just the connotations in my mind, Walmart is a hypermarket as Asda would be just a grocery supermarket.

I still don't understand though, is Dunnes not open on a Sunday in Enniscorthy? Whats the significance with Sunday, why can't people in Enniscorthy do their shopping on a Saturday?
Are you saying that by having somewhere open on a Sunday it would revive the shopping in Enniscorthy?