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neighbours cat driving my dogs totally mental

  • 11-03-2011 4:35am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭


    hi everyone i am having a problem with my neighbours cat driving my two dogs totally mental the two dogs are in a dogs pen and the cat walks up and down along the wall and in my garden across from the dog pen as if she owned the place and its driving the dogs nuts it has gone to the stage with the cat that he/she knows the dogs cant get them and they have started to walk around my yard over near the dog pen teasing the dogs i have sprayed the cat loads of times with the hose every time i see it during the day but now it appears only at night and i dont know what to do and the owner of the cat is starting to complain about the dogs barking but its her cat is driving the dogs wrong but genuinely there is never a peep out of the dogs until the cat turns up but when i say this to the neighbour thats owns the cat she just says my cat would not do that and that cats are a free animals to roam as they like and i am to shut my dogs up or she will report me to the council

    so my question is is there something i can do or something i can pour on the wall for to stop the cat from coming along the wall to piss off my dogs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Cats gonna be cats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭smokin ace


    Cats gonna be cats.

    thats a lot of help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭GalwayKiefer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭chicken fingers


    smokin ace wrote: »
    thats a lot of help
    I think what the above poster is implying is that this is 100% your problem.
    You cannot turn around and say that the neighbours cat is provoking your dogs, that sounds like a thing a person out of touch with reality would say, even if it is true!
    Also it is not acceptable to spray their cat with water.
    Unfortunately I know you probably love your dogs and treat them well but you are the bad neighbour in this story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    dont agree with the other posts here at all.

    another persons pet is coming into your property, to me that is not acceptable and I would tell the neighbour I had enough of his cat coming into my place and to sort it out himself.
    I would spray water and bang saucepans(off each other , not the cat) or whatever to get him out of there.
    there is fencing you can put up I think to keep him off the wall also. i do happen to be of the opinion that it is the offending pet owner who should be paying for that and putting it up in his own garden.

    I would also tell neighbour that I am reporting them to the council for their pet trespassing and causing distress!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    I would report the owner to your local council. Cats don't have the right to roam free and it really annoys me when I hear people say things like 'it's your problem, suck it up'.

    You're being the responsible pet owner. Your dogs are enclosed and safe and not encroaching on your neighbors property. I would put some of that glue stuff for the top of the wall, should keep them away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    I think what the above poster is implying is that this is 100% your problem.
    You cannot turn around and say that the neighbours cat is provoking your dogs, that sounds like a thing a person out of touch with reality would say, even if it is true!
    Also it is not acceptable to spray their cat with water.
    Unfortunately I know you probably love your dogs and treat them well but you are the bad neighbour in this story.

    Troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 261 ✭✭SophieSakura


    I think cats should have the right to roam, BUT this is obviously your neighbour's fault! Of course your dogs will bark if there are cats around, nothing you can do to stop them really unless you brought them in at night, or shut them in a kennel or shed at night.

    I'd tell the neighbour that you contacted the council or guards and they said that the neighbour is the one at fault and should shut their cat in the house at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    I would call over to the neighbour and explain to them that you have a solution for the barking. Advise them that you have put poison down on your property to deter "stray" cats. Tell them that you wanted them to know as you'd hate if their cat got ate some of the poison.
    Wheither or not you actually put down poison is your call.

    Then, anytime the cat comes into your garden, try to capture it. If you are successful call the councel and tell them you've caught a feral cat that's causing your pets trouble. Tell them the animal is a stray (as, it is, if it's freely coming and going) and you want them to remove it.

    Fair is fair, if your dogs could freely roam your neighbour garden & terrorise their cat, what would they do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hamsterchen


    Zulu, the thing with the poison - if someone I know is holding dogs in his garden and tells me there's poison there as well, I'd laugh him out.
    lemon and in general, citrus scent keeps cats away - not 100% but they don't really like it
    there are also those ultrasound emitors that help keeping cats away - just make sure it won't be harmful for your dogs.
    as for the cat sitting on the wall and washing itself, looking down at the dogs, well, from to time it's their way of having fun and payback for all the barking so there are times when you simply have to cope with it. just a question - do your dogs have plenty of exercise? while it's normal for dogs to react to a cat, constant barking can be also a sign of boredom ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭liquoriceall


    I know that one sure way of getting rid of cats is to release your dogs and let the bloody cat get a terrible fright as he wont be expecting that!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Zulu, the thing with the poison - if someone I know is holding dogs in his garden and tells me there's poison there as well, I'd laugh him out.
    True, but the OP did say they were confined to a dog run. The poison could be left outside the dog run, or up on the walls.

    @OP: you could always top your walls (just covering a few feet where the cat comes in, not the whole wall) with a board with a load of nails, or carpet boards (the wooden board with loads of tacks sticking up). You could place these in such a way as the cat(s) wouldn't be able walk along the wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭poconnor16


    I don't agree with the poison soloution at all - why punish the cat? The cat is not doing this on purpose believe it or not - it's brain is not as sophisticated as ours as does not know how to behave like that.

    As a cat owner, I think this is the neighbours fault. The OP has their animals kept on their property and under control. The cat is trespassing. Now I know outdoor cats will do this, but if they are causing trouble, the owner has to deal with it. My cats are kept indoor for the most part and when they are old enough to go outside, it will be in my cat proof back garden.

    OP I would look into cat proofing your garden - although really you should not be forking out for this. Might just be the easier soloution?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    poconnor16 wrote: »
    I don't agree with the poison soloution at all - why punish the cat?
    It's not about "punishing" the cat, it's simply about resolving the problem. The cat won't be poisoned, if it's owner controls it. The simple reality is, that people could have anything in their back gardens. Anything. If the owner is letting their cat stray, then they are exposing the cat to all these risks. It's irresponsible.
    Dogs roam by nature, yet went we restrict dog's from roaming it's not considered "punishing" the dog. The same applies.
    The cat is not doing this on purpose believe it or not - it's brain is not as sophisticated as ours as does not know how to behave like that.
    Sure. Thats fine. But the OP doesn't need to consider or concern themselves with the cats physiology. The cat is a pest, simple. The pest animal should be dealt with the same way you'd deal with any pest animal, rat, or any other pest.
    As a cat owner, I think this is the neighbours fault.
    We're all agreed on this so. It's clearly the neighbours fault.
    OP I would look into cat proofing your garden - although really you should not be forking out for this. Might just be the easier solution?
    I agree. The OP shouldn't have to cat proof their garden, but I doubt the neighbor is going to do anything except complain about the dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭poconnor16


    We 50% agree Zulu :)

    I see your point regarding pest control, and I know it would not be a deliberate 'trying to poison' the cat. But I just wouldn't take the risk of poisoning any animal....I'd probably poison the neighbour first. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Ah no, to be honest, I'd be very hard pushed to put down poison myself. That said, I'd have no problem capturing it once & dropping it round to the neighbour with a stern warning that the next person I hand this cat to will be the council.

    ...and then following through on that promise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭poconnor16


    well thats fair enough like - I know people that would do a hell of a lot worse without even consulting the neighbour. The neighbour just seems to not give a crap really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Skadi


    Just to mention that putting down posion for cats is illegal. Also illegal is the setting of traps to capture wild animals.

    http://www.ispca.ie/Legal-Chapter-7-2.aspx

    OP would make an effort to keep her cat out of your garden, and off the wall. Could you put up wooden panelling along the top of your side of the wall so that your dogs couldn't see her cat. Also if possible it might make sense to try and remove the cat calmly from your garden as your dogs might see it as a game if you make loads of noise and effort to get the cat away.

    Also maybe you could set up a camera which caught proof of her cat causing the problem and let her know that you will be using this as evidence if you have to defend yourself.

    I have problems with my neighbour's barking dog and while it barks at lots of things, it also barks anytime it sees us or my dogs in the garden. Yes, one of my dogs at times sits right next to the wall overlooking the garden (we live on a slope so our garden is over 8 feet higher than their garden) but she sits quietly and does not bark whenever she sees movement in their garden. We are planning to put up a thick hedge so that hopefully their dog will not see us so much and also that it might drown out some of the noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    I take it your dogs were never socialized with cats when puppies.
    Have you tried seeing about some adult socialization? Some groups will help with this - I see you are in Wexford, I know it might be far but Dog Training Ireland maybe a good place to start. They were excellent with our puppy socialization - and I saw them work wonders on an aggressive younger dog when I was there too. 1st week it could not be around other dogs - really agressive and barked constantly, saw it again 5 wks later and it was running around playing with the other dogs with only minimal supervision - really impressive stuff.

    Unfortunately cats being cats will do just this. If your dogs just ignored the cat though eventually it would grow tired of this game.

    In terms of what you can do to stop the cat - none are fully effective, some are illegal and what happens when the next cat calls around. So for me the big action here is for you.

    > socialization
    > more activities for the dogs - a) to entertain them; b) to tire them out c) dogs need mental stimulation - right now the cat is providing that.
    > review the dog run - do they need more space to run around; or can they not just run around the back garden - the cat might disappear (but I doubt it) if the dogs suddenly charge.

    Best of luck with this though, barking dogs can be annoying - not only for you - but for your neighbours (am surrounded by them at home - but they are dogs and dogs bark :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭PCros


    Zulu wrote: »
    Then, anytime the cat comes into your garden, try to capture it. If you are successful call the councel and tell them you've caught a feral cat that's causing your pets trouble. Tell them the animal is a stray (as, it is, if it's freely coming and going) and you want them to remove it.

    So what happens when you show them the "feral cat" that has a collar and a chip?

    They would have to release the cat back to the owner and the whole process would start again.

    More realistic ways as mentioned here already than trapping and poisoning cats.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Skadi wrote: »
    Just to mention that putting down posion for cats is illegal. Also illegal is the setting of traps to capture wild animals.
    While it might technically be illegal to poison cats, putting down poison in your back garden isn't. Similarly, proving someone "trapped" the cat would require the cats confession, which would be impossible to provide.

    So it's all a bit moot really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Zulu, you're treading on thin ice here. Advocating illegal and/or cruel actions such as putting down poison or capturing the cat will earn you a ban from this forum. I'm not interested in technicalities. You won't get another warning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭mariannewims


    Could you just pop around to your neighbours and explain the situation in a calm, reasonable manner?
    If your neighbour could be convinced to keep his/her cat in at night it'd make both your lives, and that of your dogs, a whole lot easier!

    While I believe that it's very difficult to stop your cat going to a certain place or getting up to certain behaviour, the cat owner has a responsibility and shouldn't let his/her cat do whatever they want all the time if it's impacting on other people!

    I live in a built up area and don't want my cat bothering neighbours through yowling at local cats or bothering dogs so I keep him in at night. Simple. And he's happier as he has a warm comfy house to sleep in; everyone's a winner!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Apologies Seamus, my intent isn't to advocate cruelity to animals. Picking up the cat & returning it to the owner with a warning is the crux of my advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hamsterchen


    for all nails on the wall putting, poisoning and dogs letting guys - the cat is innocent. it does what a cat does under normal circumstances. by letting the dogs tear the cat apart, hurting its paws on the nails or eating something poisonous - you are proposing hurting or killing a living creature who's not aware of any wrong-doing. as for its owner - if the cat is used to be outside, let me tell you, there isn't a lot a man is capable of doing to stop it. anyone who's seen what a cranky cat is capable of when it's suddenly jailed in the house would understand that.
    a cat is not a dog - it cannot be chained or confined to walled run unless the walls are so high, it can under no circumstances climb them.
    i may hate swallows pooing all over my garden in late summer but there isn't a lot i can do to stop them so i just grin and bear it. i hate wasps and bees flying around me when i'm outside when it's warm and i have an ice-cream in my hand, again, it's nature. should i shoot the swallows? should i kill the bees or wasps for being what they are?
    there are things you can do to stop cat entering your garden and they don't need to end up with an injury or death. for all those who'd like to see the cat in a pool of blood or put to sleep as a stray, because it dares the dogs, go and kick your own labrador.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    there are things you can do to stop cat entering your garden and they don't need to end up with an injury or death. for all those who'd like to see the cat in a pool of blood or put to sleep as a stray, because it dares the dogs, go and kick your own labrador.
    So as opposed to advising us to kick our own dogs, would you care to actually advise the OP as to what these "things you can do to stop cat entering your garden and they don't need to end up with an injury or death" are?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭westies4ever


    i have no idea if this actually works or not - apparently if you leave out a saucer of milk with a load of pepper in it, the cat will drink it - it won't harm it but it will hate it and it wont come back.

    personally, i don't see the problem. i have two dogs and there are also a lot of cats in the neighbourhood, dogs bark at cats - end of. mind you i don't leave my dogs outside all day in a pen - why dont you try bringing them in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hamsterchen


    Zulu wrote: »
    So as opposed to advising us to kick our own dogs, would you care to actually advise the OP as to what these "things you can do to stop cat entering your garden and they don't need to end up with an injury or death" are?

    if you would care to read my previous post /the one you picked up the poison thingy from/, you'd see that I actually advised something.
    that or should have gone to specsavers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Zulu wrote: »
    Picking up the cat & returning it to the owner with a warning is the crux of my advice.
    We had a cat coming into our house through any open window, eating food, fighting my cats and spraying everywhere. I got a collar, taped a note to it saying "your cat has been coming into my house...<rest of details>.....please do something about it". He hasn't done it since.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hamsterchen


    apologies to anyone offended by my lab kicking post - wasn't meant this way and it was a stupid comment.
    my opinion on people who advocate and seriously recommend letting the dogs handle the cat, nails on the wall etc. stands


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 Kitiara


    There is no easy way of resolving this problem. But, the most peacefull -and best for all involved - is for you to tecah the dog to accept cats in his territory. After all, cats are all around us. You may be able to keep this one out of your garden, than you move house in 5 years time and have the same problem again. Get the dogs used to cats. Or, alternately, get a cat yourself.Cats are territorial and won't accept another cat in their garden.They only have to convey that message once..and you will be surprised how quickly dogs can accept cats.It requiers a bit of training and getting used to, and full supervision in the begining, but once you are through with that, your problem is solved.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    a cat is not a dog - it cannot be chained or confined to walled run unless the walls are so high, it can under no circumstances climb them.

    Cats can be confined, plenty of posters on this forum have done just that, either made their garden cat escape proof or just not let their cats out. And some of these cats were previously outdoors cats
    i may hate swallows pooing all over my garden in late summer but there isn't a lot i can do to stop them so i just grin and bear it. i hate wasps and bees flying around me when i'm outside when it's warm and i have an ice-cream in my hand, again, it's nature. should i shoot the swallows? should i kill the bees or wasps for being what they are?

    The animals you mention there are wild animals, this cat is a pet so can and should be contained onto the property of it's owner. Further more its a pet of the person threatening the OP with complaining to council about OP's dogs barking at her cat. A lot of cat people think its acceptable for their cats to wander into other people's property but would you think it acceptable for people who own birds of prey to let them fly around the neighbourhood causing a nuisance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Simply answer get a cat or preferably two (for company) then teach the dogs to be nice to cats. It will be easier because your cats will be around & in the house with the dogs.

    If you leave your dogs alone outdoors & anything makes them bark then it is your responsibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    Discodog wrote: »
    Simply answer get a cat or preferably two (for company) then teach the dogs to be nice to cats.

    Thing is though all that will happen is the dogs won't bark at their cats, they'll still bark at the neighbours cat because that cat doesn't belong to the family so is an intruder.

    There's plenty of dogs will get on perfectly with house cats and chase non-family cats, or be safe with their own rabbits but kill wild rabbits


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Discodog wrote: »
    Simply answer get a cat or preferably two (for company) then teach the dogs to be nice to cats. It will be easier because your cats will be around & in the house with the dogs.

    If you leave your dogs alone outdoors & anything makes them bark then it is your responsibility.

    While I agree with the latter part of your post I have to disagree with the start for 2 reasons; you should never get another pet to solve a problem with the pets you have. Unless the OP wants a cat he's likely to resent the costs, time and problems that comes with having cats.

    Also, Harley was raised with cats, he is happy enough for my two to be in the garden but other cats still get chased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    my dog loves her little cat brother but like other posters have said she barked at any other cat that came near until i trained her not to. Occasionally she'll still go mad barking but stops once prompted.

    Its a matter of looking at what in this situation you have control over OP, you cant control the cat, or your neighbour but you can control your dogs. It'll probably take ages but it is possible. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Discodog wrote: »
    Simply answer get a cat or preferably two (for company) then teach the dogs to be nice to cats. It will be easier because your cats will be around & in the house with the dogs.

    Ok so I should of added a :rolleyes: :D

    The key point is that if the dogs are left unattended & especially outdoors, then the owner is not in control of their barking. My little Nutter used to bark at birds - try keeping them out. We had a couple of cosy chats & now he understands not to bark.

    My Greyhound used to go ballistic at the sheer audacity of a neighbouring cat that not only walked in the garden but deliberately passed close to the patio door. She now reluctantly accepts that the Cats are my friends - would she still chase one, you bet she would but we are working on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Our cats regularly provoke our neighbour's dogs into barking fits by walking along the top of our dividing fence ..... but then so does the ice cream van, passing kids, birds, neighbourhood dogs, owners coming home, owners refusing to let them in and any number of other seemingly random events. In the grand scheme of things the cats set them off far less often than other things, so I don't feel guilty about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭smokin ace


    thanks to everyone for posting information to those who ask are the dogs bored i do have my dogs out for 2-5 miles walk everyday along with a run in the fields and they have total freedom in a secure garden all day so its not the case the dogs are bored and locked in the pen all day some people say get a cat i dont want a cat and if i wanted a cat i would have got one long and ever ago

    some people say get the dogs use to cats but thats not going to happen because they are hunting dogs and to those that think the dogs bark at every little thing they dont its ONLY the neighbours cat they bark at because i have seen it with my own two eyes the cat teases the dog knowing that the dogs are locked in the pen

    some people say keep the dogs in the house at night i dont think i should because i spent a lot of time and money on building dog pens that is warm and comfortable for the dogs to sleep in
    the cat only comes around at night when the neighbour puts the cat out at night so why cant she keep her cat in at night when she know that it drives the dogs nuts so in fairness why should i feel like its my problem when its her cat coming into my yard driving my dogs mental


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    smokin ace wrote: »
    some people say get the dogs use to cats but thats not going to happen because they are hunting dogs and to those that think the dogs bark at every little thing they dont its ONLY the neighbours cat they bark at because i have seen it with my own two eyes the cat teases the dog knowing that the dogs are locked in the pen

    some people say keep the dogs in the house at night i dont think i should because i spent a lot of time and money on building dog pens that is warm and comfortable for the dogs to sleep in
    the cat only comes around at night when the neighbour puts the cat out at night so why cant she keep her cat in at night when she know that it drives the dogs nuts so in fairness why should i feel like its my problem when its her cat coming into my yard driving my dogs mental

    It seems like you have a few options that would stop the barking but you dont want to do any of them. So really if it continues its your choice. You cant be surprised that your hunting dogs have a problem with a small animal?

    Its like someone else already said, even if your neighbour keeps her cat in forever there is no guarantee that a stray wont bother your dogs down the line.

    A lot of cats are active at night thats probably why hers is outside at this time. I dont think she has any right to complain about the barking tho, but really you aren't willing to make changes to your set up why should she??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone



    Cats don't have the right to roam free

    What law are they breaking?

    You're being the responsible pet owner. Your dogs are enclosed and safe and not encroaching on your neighbors property.

    Having nuiscance dogs is the problem here.

    .


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    smokin ace wrote: »
    thanks to everyone for posting information to those who ask are the dogs bored i do have my dogs out for 2-5 miles walk everyday along with a run in the fields and they have total freedom in a secure garden all day so its not the case the dogs are bored and locked in the pen all day some people say get a cat i dont want a cat and if i wanted a cat i would have got one long and ever ago

    some people say get the dogs use to cats but thats not going to happen because they are hunting dogs and to those that think the dogs bark at every little thing they dont its ONLY the neighbours cat they bark at because i have seen it with my own two eyes the cat teases the dog knowing that the dogs are locked in the pen

    some people say keep the dogs in the house at night i dont think i should because i spent a lot of time and money on building dog pens that is warm and comfortable for the dogs to sleep in
    the cat only comes around at night when the neighbour puts the cat out at night so why cant she keep her cat in at night when she know that it drives the dogs nuts so in fairness why should i feel like its my problem when its her cat coming into my yard driving my dogs mental

    It shouldn't be your problem, that cat owner is being extremely irresponsible by leaving the cat out after dark- hundreds of things can happen to a cat left out at night, and most of them fatal. Sounds like she's a bloody idiot who doesn't give a **** really. I have four cats who are indoors because of busy roads around us, but I would absolutely hate to think of them going onto other people's property and annoying them. Certainly, cats are cats, and will do what they want, but they can be contained and she, the owner, is obviously the problem here. If you can get photographs or take a video of the cat on your property, show them to her, and if she refuses to do anything about, threaten her with the guards. Her animal is trespassing on your property and something will have to be done about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    Shanao wrote: »
    , threaten her with the guards. Her animal is trespassing on your property and something will have to be done about it.

    What are the Guards going to do about it? Dont you think they have more important things to be doing with their time then dealing with a wandering cat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭irelandspurs


    smokin ace wrote: »
    thanks to everyone for posting information to those who ask are the dogs bored i do have my dogs out for 2-5 miles walk everyday along with a run in the fields and they have total freedom in a secure garden all day so its not the case the dogs are bored and locked in the pen all day some people say get a cat i dont want a cat and if i wanted a cat i would have got one long and ever ago

    some people say get the dogs use to cats but thats not going to happen because they are hunting dogs and to those that think the dogs bark at every little thing they dont its ONLY the neighbours cat they bark at because i have seen it with my own two eyes the cat teases the dog knowing that the dogs are locked in the pen

    some people say keep the dogs in the house at night i dont think i should because i spent a lot of time and money on building dog pens that is warm and comfortable for the dogs to sleep in
    the cat only comes around at night when the neighbour puts the cat out at night so why cant she keep her cat in at night when she know that it drives the dogs nuts so in fairness why should i feel like its my problem when its her cat coming into my yard driving my dogs mental
    Dog keeps coming into my garden and scaring my cat,swings and roundabouts


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    sambuka41 wrote: »
    What are the Guards going to do about it? Dont you think they have more important things to be doing with their time then dealing with a wandering cat?

    I said threaten with the guards, not to actually go and do so. I mean if she continues to complain about the fact that his dogs are barking, when he would then have proof of why they're barking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    Shanao wrote: »
    I said threaten with the guards, not to actually go and do so. I mean if she continues to complain about the fact that his dogs are barking, when he would then have proof of why they're barking.

    Oh yeah fair enough. She really hasn't a leg to stand on with the complaining, it is a bit rich.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭smokin ace


    sambuka41 wrote: »
    It seems like you have a few options that would stop the barking but you dont want to do any of them. So really if it continues its your choice. You cant be surprised that your hunting dogs have a problem with a small animal?

    Its like someone else already said, even if your neighbour keeps her cat in forever there is no guarantee that a stray wont bother your dogs down the line.

    A lot of cats are active at night thats probably why hers is outside at this time. I dont think she has any right to complain about the barking tho, but really you aren't willing to make changes to your set up why should she??

    i take you comments on board but i am the one being a responsible pet owner my dogs are licensed i spent a lot of money to make sure they have a warm comfortable bed to sleep in my dogs are not wandering around the housing estate sihtting all over the place what is the problem with my dogs being hunting dogs there is thousands of dogs in the country that would go bonkers at the sight of a cat so it not just because they are hunting dogs i understand cats wander around but why can the owner be a responsible cat owner as i have seen it with my own two eyes the cat walking back a forward 5 or 6 foot in front of the dog pen in my garden teasing the dogs
    why should i spend any amount of money trying to keep the cat out of my yard when the cat owner dont give a toss about her cat i am a dog owner and my responsibly is my dogs to make sure they are looked after
    why do some people think if they own a cat they can let the cat roam around and go where ever it likes without taking some responsibly if the cat is going into someones yard and causing such problems its the cat owners fault not the responsible dog owners fault


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Cats are considered the property of thier owners in the eyes of the law. By extrapolation anyone who damges property (cats included I presume) could be liable to compensate the owner.

    Also, cats are allowed to roam free as long as they are not harming anyone or their property. This cat is not harming anyone it is simply doing what a cat does.

    In fact if you are renting from the loacal authority you may be in breach of their rules and regulations by keeping 'hunting dogs' on a property which you don't own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    smokin ace wrote: »
    thanks to everyone for posting information to those who ask are the dogs bored i do have my dogs out for 2-5 miles walk everyday along with a run in the fields and they have total freedom in a secure garden all day so its not the case the dogs are bored and locked in the pen all day some people say get a cat i dont want a cat and if i wanted a cat i would have got one long and ever ago

    some people say get the dogs use to cats but thats not going to happen because they are hunting dogs and to those that think the dogs bark at every little thing they dont its ONLY the neighbours cat they bark at because i have seen it with my own two eyes the cat teases the dog knowing that the dogs are locked in the pen

    some people say keep the dogs in the house at night i dont think i should because i spent a lot of time and money on building dog pens that is warm and comfortable for the dogs to sleep in
    the cat only comes around at night when the neighbour puts the cat out at night so why cant she keep her cat in at night when she know that it drives the dogs nuts so in fairness why should i feel like its my problem when its her cat coming into my yard driving my dogs mental

    I don't think you'll ever get 1 concise opinion where there's a dog v's cat thread, it always seems to me that most of the time it's poles apart. It always seems to come down to whether people believe cats have the right to roam or if people believe that any pet should be kept on its owners property unless it is accompanied no matter if it's a dog, cat, horse, bird or any other species. My personal opinion is that yes you do have to control your dogs barking, as much for your own nights sleep as to protect your dogs from the dog warden getting involved. Your neighbour doesn't have the right to let her pet roam into your property but it sounds like you won't get any joy from her.

    If it was me I would put a cheap barrier on the walls to stop the cat from going down the wall to tease your dog. One of the other posters suggested a wooden board with nails in it, and to be honest I think it's a good idea. It would be really easy to blunt the nails so there would be no danger of the cat hurting itself but it would really discourage the cat from walking that wall. Cats are generally very smart and are problem solvers, and this cat really seems smart if it only teases your dogs when they're in their pen and can't get at it so it would immediately see that the path it normally uses is now far less accessable


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