How to deal with (possible) deliberate tyre damage?

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 2:16pm #1

Recently moved offices to inner(ish) city (Dublin of course!) where free parking is scarce... Anyhoo, there's a small area around the corner from work where parking is free, it's kind of like a cul de sac with a small green in the middle.

A good few people in work park there and a number of them have had issues with flat tyres, and now the other day me and a colleague parked next to each other and both had flats, although I only noticed mine yesterday.

I have a vague idea of which house is responsible but have absolutely no evidence other than circumstance.

So is there any super secret camera I can use that costs next to nothing to catch this scummer in the act?

Just to clarify there are no designated spaces and there's no yellow lines and we're not blocking anyone, so we're perfectly entitled to park there.

barryfitz · 10-03-2011 2:21pm

slashed or deflated?

Tigger · 10-03-2011 2:23pm

you're parking in someones cul de sac which is probably taking their space
if someone "slashed your tyres how did you only notice it yesterday ?
slashing tyres gives a flat not a slow leak.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 2:26pm

Tigger wrote: »

you're parking in someones cul de sac which is probably taking their space
if someone "slashed your tyres how did you only notice it yesterday ?
slashing tyres gives a flat not a slow leak.

Define ''someones'' cul de sac? Who does it belong to?

I already said there was no designating parking.

Okay I was exaggerating with the thread title. My friends tyre had a nail in it, I haven't examined my own yet.

mikemac · 10-03-2011 2:28pm

Do you know approximately when it happened? Maybe your colleagues with their cars?
Like in the morning before lunch?

Reason I'm asking is if it's in the morning probably a disgruntled resident.
But in the evening could be kids hanging around and out from school

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 2:31pm

feelingstressed wrote: »

Do you know approximately when it happened? Maybe your colleagues with their cars?
Like in the morning before lunch?

Reason I'm asking is if it's in the morning probably a disgruntled resident.
But in the evening could be kids hanging around and out from school

Wouldn't have a clue when it happened, I get there just before 9 and don't see the car again until after 5.

School kids are a possibility although kids wouldn't pass through naturally, they'd have to walk in purposely from the main road.

Viper_JB · 10-03-2011 2:32pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Recently moved offices to inner(ish) city (Dublin of course!) where free parking is scarce... Anyhoo, there's a small area around the corner from work where parking is free, it's kind of like a cul de sac with a small green in the middle.

A good few people in work park there and a number of them have had issues with flat tyres, and now the other day me and a colleague parked next to each other and both had flats, although I only noticed mine yesterday.

I have a vague idea of which house is responsible but have absolutely no evidence other than circumstance.

So is there any super secret camera I can use that costs next to nothing to catch this scummer in the act?

Just to clarify there are no designated spaces and there's no yellow lines and we're not blocking anyone, so we're perfectly entitled to park there.

You should be able to find something cheaply on dealextreme.com all their prices include delivery too.

Cookie_Monster · 10-03-2011 2:46pm

cycle

Tigger · 10-03-2011 2:50pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Define ''someones'' cul de sac? Who does it belong to?

whoever lives there if others continue to park they will have to apply for a residents scheme

Okay I was exaggerating with the thread title. My friends tyre had a nail in it, I haven't examined my own yet.

so no slashed tyres only a nail in your mates tyre (highly unlikley someone pushed that in) and a very slow leak in yours

why not state the facts, you know that ye are taking advantage of someone's residental area and because a few puntchures have happened you assumed that it was payback.

to answer your question a camera that shows 360 round the car to catch the culpret seems hard to imagine

i just re read your first post

I have a vague idea of which house is responsible but have absolutely no evidence other than circumstance

you could point a small camera at the house but it seems likley that this is co-incidence and your guilty consiense

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 3:04pm

Why would I feel guilty about parking on a public road?

I assume it's someone causing the punctures because it happens to too many people in the same area to be a coincidence. Perfectly logical train of thought really.

Tigger · 10-03-2011 3:16pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why would I feel guilty about parking on a public road?

I assume it's someone causing the punctures because it happens to too many people in the same area to be a coincidence. Perfectly logical train of thought really.

slashed tyres are hit in the side and the tyre is deflated
not slow leaks or nails in the face of the tyre

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 3:40pm

Tigger wrote: »

slashed tyres are hit in the side and the tyre is deflated
not slow leaks or nails in the face of the tyre

Why do you keep raising this point when I've already addressed it a number of posts ago? Have you no where else to troll so you do it here?

10-03-2011 3:50pm

Punctures are very rare really, unless someone accidentally dropped a load of nails on the exit of the cul de sac it would be a natural enough conclusion to come to that someone has stuck them in to the tyre. I'll get one on the way home now after saying they are rare :pac:

pete4130 · 10-03-2011 3:59pm

Well, my parents house is in the city centre and there is frequent problems with people parking on the street who don't live there.

Yes, it is FREE parking. I don't deny that. When people who live there are parked in, double parked, cant find a parking space outside their own house day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, you can understand that the people who actually live on the road might get a bit annoyed.

My parents road in particular, is right next to what would have been expensive apartments a few years ago. There is underground parking in these apartments...which are an extra cost for the parking facility (and we all know from the motoring forum that if you can't afford to pay for all the costs of running a car, you shouldn't have the car). Sometimes cars are left sitting there for weeks at a time.

All these people don't pay for their underground parking space and double park/take parking spaces outside the residents houses early in the morning, before residents can be out of bed and gone to work and frequently get parked in. Legally these people can park on this street provided they aren't double parking (even though the residents have an informal system of double parking, knocking on neighbors doors for cars to be moved to get out etc...).

There have been incidents of these non residents/apartment dwellers finding valves removed from 2 or more tyres, eggs in air vents and counter double parking by residents for prolonged periods after 5pm when people just want to go home and are inconvenienced terribly.

So who is in the right? people paying their motor tax and the right to park on a public road or residents trying to live on a public road and having their own lives being impaired by inconsiderate people?

glic71rods46t0 · 10-03-2011 4:18pm

pete4130 wrote: »

There have been incidents of these non residents/apartment dwellers finding valves removed from 2 or more tyres, eggs in air vents and counter double parking by residents for prolonged periods after 5pm when people just want to go home and are inconvenienced terribly.
?

I would say that must be a rough part of town with a lot of scumbag residents. With double parking I would ring for the gardai and have the vehicle towed. As for eggs in vents and deflating 2 or more tyres the best way to counter such scumbags is to keep reporting it to the gardai and hope that they increase their patrolling of the area and hopefully catch a scumbag resident in the act!
Keep your chin up and dont give in to the scumbags though - remember, if you have paid your motor tax you have the same rights as they have!

Tigger · 10-03-2011 4:24pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Why do you keep raising this point when I've already addressed it a number of posts ago? Have you no where else to troll so you do it here?

no one slashed your tyre

cabrwab · 10-03-2011 4:35pm

That sucks but you are parking in somebody's neighbourhood are you surprised?

Not saying its the right thing but it is frustrating battling with people who don't live there parking there during 9 to 5.

Get a little air compressor in your car and if they deflate your tyre at least you can pump it up again.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 4:40pm

Tigger wrote: »

no one slashed your tyre

Thank you for your invaluable input.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 4:44pm

cabrwab wrote: »

That sucks but you are parking in somebody's neighbourhood are you surprised?

I would not be surprised if I was doing something wrong, as in actually using someone else's space or blocking someone. But in this case, I'm not doing anything wrong.

I'm not parking in anyone's neighbourhood, I'm parking on a public road. It's not my fault someone bought a house without a driveway in the inner city. I have as much right to park there as anyone else.

Zubeneschamali · 10-03-2011 4:47pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'm not parking in anyone's neighbourhood, I'm parking on a public road.

The road isn't in someone's residential neighbourhood?

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 4:49pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

The road isn't in someone's residential neighbourhood?

As in, the ''neighbourhood'' belongs to no one, they have no special rights to any amenities that they do not own within the vicinity.

The Muppet · 10-03-2011 4:53pm

Unless you are able to sit watching your car all day you'd be better off spending your money on a parking space rather than waste it on a camera.

Lets be totally honest here whats happening to your car would happen in most neighbourhoods in similar circumstances.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 4:54pm

The Muppet wrote: »

Unless you are able to sit watching your car all day you'd be better off spending your money on a parking space rather than waste it on a camera.

Lets be totally honest here whats happening to your car would happen in most neighbourhoods in similar circumstances.

Like I said I have a sneaking suspision of which house is responsible so as long as I don't park next to it then all should be well, only one way to find out anyway!!

E39MSport · 10-03-2011 4:58pm

So you're not making a nuisance of yourself by parking outside someone's residence?

Of course you are correct with regard to special rights however one should not have park away from their own 'home' because people have parked their car there during work hours for their own convenience.

Residents of Dundrum, Balinteer and many other similar SC catchment areas are plagued by this problem.

I doubt that many of the perpetrators would be happy with it happening on their own doorstep.

10-03-2011 5:00pm

pete4130 wrote: »

Well, my parents house is in the city centre and there is frequent problems with people parking on the street who don't live there.

...........

kjw42593lisrtv wrote: »

I would say that must be a rough part of town with a lot of scumbag residents. ..................Keep your chin up and dont give in to the scumbags though - remember, if you have paid your motor tax you have the same rights as they have!

lol, classic :pac:

Im Only 71Kg · 10-03-2011 5:03pm

buy a Sinn Fein sticker and put it in your front window.

Zubeneschamali · 10-03-2011 5:03pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

As in, the ''neighbourhood'' belongs to no one, they have no special rights to any amenities that they do not own within the vicinity.

Actually, councils recognize the obvious fact that residents do have a special right to park outside their homes, and in many places where the locals request it, they designate all on-street parking as pay parking with passes for residents, enforced with clamping.

The locals you're irritating evidently haven't gotten annoyed enough to request that yet.

Seth Brundle · 10-03-2011 5:06pm

Tigger wrote: »

to answer your question a camera that shows 360 round the car to catch the culpret seems hard to imagine

The OP could buy one of these from Google...

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 5:07pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Actually, councils recognize the obvious fact that residents do have a special right to park outside their homes, and in many places where the locals request it, they designate all on-street parking as pay parking with passes for residents, enforced with clamping.

The locals you're irritating evidently haven't gotten annoyed enough to request that yet.

Well I'm not stopping them, until they do I have a right to park there.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 5:09pm

E39MSport wrote: »

So you're not making a nuisance of yourself by parking outside someone's residence?

Of course you are correct with regard to special rights however one should not have park away from their own 'home' because people have parked their car there during work hours for their own convenience.

Residents of Dundrum, Balinteer and many other similar SC catchment areas are plagued by this problem.

I doubt that many of the perpetrators would be happy with it happening on their own doorstep.

I don't park directly outside anyone's house, I park on the far side of the road by the green.

Tigger · 10-03-2011 5:13pm

kbannon wrote: »

The OP could buy one of these from Google...

i stand corrected

cadaliac · 10-03-2011 5:25pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

I don't park directly outside anyone's house, I park on the far side of the road by the green.

So, does this mean that a car (driven by a resident) would have to drive "around" your car to get down to the end of the cul de sac? If so, i can see why they get annoyed.
If there is no issue with space, I fail to see the problem.

Zubeneschamali · 10-03-2011 5:29pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Well I'm not stopping them, until they do I have a right to park there.

...and I am in no way condoning them letting the air out of your tyres, which I think is a very bad way for them to address the problem. I think your car should be clamped.

Our man in Havana · 10-03-2011 5:33pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

...and I am in no way condoning them letting the air out of your tyres, which I think is a very bad way for them to address the problem. I think your car should be clamped.

On what legal basis?

corglass · 10-03-2011 5:44pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

...and I am in no way condoning them letting the air out of your tyres, which I think is a very bad way for them to address the problem. I think your car should be clamped.

+1

Zubeneschamali · 10-03-2011 5:52pm

Our man in Havana wrote: »

On what legal basis?

Read all about it:

http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/Parking/ResidentsParking/Pages/start_a_parking_scheme.aspx

hoodie6029 · 10-03-2011 5:58pm

The long and the short of this situation is:
1) If the residents don't want office workers parking outside their houses they should get the Council to start a parking permit scheme (as another poster already said)
2)If the residents are not willing to pay €40 a year for a permit and apparently, prime parking in Dublin they will have to continue putting up with people parking on their street.

I live near the Aviva Stadium so on match days it is mental but I knew that before I moved here. I can't expect people not to park somewhere convenient and free just because its 'my road'.

The public streets belong to us all.

Our man in Havana · 10-03-2011 6:18pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Read all about it:

http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/Parking/ResidentsParking/Pages/start_a_parking_scheme.aspx

Until they get off their holes and do something the road remains public and can be used by anyone.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 7:59pm

cadaliac wrote: »

So, does this mean that a car (driven by a resident) would have to drive "around" your car to get down to the end of the cul de sac? If so, i can see why they get annoyed.
If there is no issue with space, I fail to see the problem.

Like I said, I'm not blocking anyone, no one has to expertly maneuver around my car. It's a straight road in with a rectangular green at the end...

Here it is in fact...

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 8:00pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Read all about it:

http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/Parking/ResidentsParking/Pages/start_a_parking_scheme.aspx

He/She asked on what legal basis should my car be clamped, this doesn't answer it. I'd love to hear an answer though is you've got one?

Zubeneschamali · 10-03-2011 8:50pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

He/She asked on what legal basis should my car be clamped, this doesn't answer it. I'd love to hear an answer though is you've got one?

It does: the residents get their right to free parking outside their homes recognized by the council, and then you have to pay and display, park elsewhere, or get clamped.

-Chris- · 10-03-2011 8:51pm

kjw42593lisrtv wrote: »

I would say that must be a rough part of town with a lot of scumbag residents.

Can you tone down the unfounded "scumbag" bits please?

Tigger wrote: »

no one slashed your tyre

Thread title edited... :rolleyes:

Our man in Havana · 10-03-2011 8:52pm

They haven't done so, hence there is no legal basis to clamp anyone at this stage.

Any clamping at this stage is ultra viries.

MagicMarker · 10-03-2011 9:12pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

It does: the residents get their right to free parking outside their homes recognized by the council, and then you have to pay and display, park elsewhere, or get clamped.

But there is no pay and display, so on what basis should I to be clamped?

Zubeneschamali · 10-03-2011 9:33pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

But there is no pay and display, so on what basis should I to be clamped?

Geez, I'm saying the residents should get their act together so that they can legally clamp you instead of illegally deflating your tyres!

Del2005 · 10-03-2011 10:40pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Geez, I'm saying the residents should get their act together so that they can legally clamp you instead of illegally deflating your tyres!

Not if the OP then pays and displays:D

MagicMarker · 11-03-2011 7:57am

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Geez, I'm saying the residents should get their act together so that they can legally clamp you instead of illegally deflating your tyres!

Ah right, so you don't think I should be clamped then? Only in your hypothetical futuristic world I should?

I get ya now.

11-03-2011 8:59am

There is no way any sane person can reckon you should be clamped considering the details you have given

Zubeneschamali · 11-03-2011 9:03am

RoverJames wrote: »

There is no way any sane person can reckon you should be clamped considering the details you have given

I think he should be clamped.

I don't think he can be clamped right now.

MagicMarker · 11-03-2011 9:08am

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I think he should be clamped.

I don't think he can be clamped right now.

I think you should be clamped. Even though you're probably parked legally, you should be clamped.

See how stupid that sounds?

Zubeneschamali · 11-03-2011 9:20am

MagicMarker wrote: »

I think you should be clamped. Even though you're probably parked legally, you should be clamped.

See how stupid that sounds?

The difference is that you are denying that residents have a special right to park outside their own homes.

You are wrong.

How to deal with (possible) deliberate tyre damage?

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