Its time to abolish welfare

Proud Libertarian

Why does our government keep steeling our tax money to pay for people who not only dont work, but dont seem to want to work. Isnt it obvious to the fools in governemnt that if there were no social welfare that people would be forced to look for work instead of been a burden on the state.

And all the people who couldnt get jobs would probably start a business and make money that generating more money in the economy. We are losing a lot of money in two ways, first from people are not working and second from people who are steeling other peoples money through goverment imposed welfare.

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

tommy21

No.

Captain_Generic

Seems to be good money in the steel industry

Melion

Would i get banned if i called him an idiot?

The Skibereen Eagle

You very silly man.

Where all job for these peoples?

Silly billy.

Apache Pizza, Happy Days!

starbelgrade

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

If you return all the taxes to the taxpayers, they are no longer taxpayers.

True story.

Assassin saphir

me smell trouble ahead:eek:

The Scientician

First it's stealing.

Second, although there may be some abuse of the social welfare system, there aren't many people who would think it a good idea to get rid of it in its entirety.

Third, where do the magic jobs appear from that people can get after you get rid of it? Do you seriously think that all or most of the 400,000+ unemployed don't want to work? How come so many people are emigrating then?

Fourth, are you gonna pay for the inevitable civil unrest and crime epidemic that would result in people not being able to feed themselves or their kids>

Fifth, social welfare aids the creation of companies, see some of the Scandanavian countries for how social welfare backing helps local entrepreneurs.

starbelgrade

Melion wrote: »

Would i get banned if i called him an idiot?

Possibly.

But by suggesting that he is an idiot without actually saying it, as you have just done, was very clever.

The Skibereen Eagle

skittles1981 wrote: »

me smell trouble ahead:eek:

U speak Apache Pizza?

Why we no friend?

ItsAWindUp

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Why does our government keep steeling our tax money to pay for people who not only dont work, but dont seem to want to work. Isnt it obvious to the fools in governemnt that if there were no social welfare that people would be forced to look for work instead of been a burden on the state.

And all the people who couldnt get jobs would probably start a business and make money that generating more money in the economy. We are losing a lot of money in two ways, first from people are not working and second from people who are steeling other peoples money through goverment imposed welfare.

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

And our dictionarys apparently.

MagicMarker

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Why does our government keep steeling our tax money to pay for people who not only dont work, but dont seem to want to work. Isnt it obvious to the fools in governemnt that if there were no social welfare that people would be forced to look for work instead of been a burden on the state.

And all the people who couldnt get jobs would probably start a business and make money that generating more money in the economy. We are losing a lot of money in two ways, first from people are not working and second from people who are steeling other peoples money through goverment imposed welfare.

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

You're right, we should take it back and put the money into education. If we'd done that a few years ago maybe you'd be able write at a higher standard?

Ghost Buster

Well. Seeing as I have paid tax for 20 years and was out of work for 6 months I think I paid for my 6 months of welfare.
Stupid stupid post.

troll alert!

Yore Ma...


...and so on

Jane Eyre

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Why does our government keep steeling our tax money to pay for people who not only dont work, but dont seem to want to work. Isnt it obvious to the fools in governemnt that if there were no social welfare that people would be forced to look for work instead of been a burden on the state.

And all the people who couldnt get jobs would probably start a business and make money that generating more money in the economy. We are losing a lot of money in two ways, first from people are not working and second from people who are steeling other peoples money through goverment imposed welfare.

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

Moron. I hope you lose your job.

starviewadams

Time to give taxpayers money to more deserving people:Wreckless banks and incompetent and corrupt former govt ministers.

The unemployment rate at the height of the boom (bubble) was around 3%. It is now closer to 15%. Therefore, one can conclude that the majority of people on the dole were formerly employed but now unable to find work. There are far fewer layabouts in this country than people seem to think.

Uninformed troll is uninformed.

Aoifey!

If you're serious, I think you should be abolished.

Assassin saphir

The Skibereen Eagle wrote: »

U speak Apache Pizza?

Why we no friend?

hi friend

The Scientician

Oops, double posted by accident.

strobe

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

'The taxpayer'? Is that the CEO of Goldman Sachs Asset Management International's nickname? I like it. Makes him sound like a superhero.

Its time to abolish welfare

No, it isn't.

Ghost Buster

Would the people who used to work in the closed down dole offices be able to get welfare?
And where would they get it?

drunkmonkey

Melion wrote: »

Would i get banned if i called him an idiot?

Maybe but if you don't your going to look like a right pussy.

Meeoooww

Biggins

The OP has already tried to start this topic before - and was called out there too for the daftness of it: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056202386

Mint Sauce

So after over 10 years of making PRSI, tax, and in recent years, levy contributions. You say I should get nothing after being made redundant?

sheesh

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Why does our government keep steeling our tax money to pay for people who not only dont work, but dont seem to want to work. Isnt it obvious to the fools in governemnt that if there were no social welfare that people would be forced to look for work instead of been a burden on the state.

And all the people who couldnt get jobs would probably start a business and make money that generating more money in the economy. We are losing a lot of money in two ways, first from people are not working and second from people who are steeling other peoples money through goverment imposed welfare.

Its time to abolish welfare and return the money to its rightful owner, the taxpayer.

it spelt stealing.

and no it is not time for it.

Biggins

irish-stew wrote: »

So after over 10 years of making PRSI, tax, and in recent years, levy contributions. You say I should get nothing after being made redundant?

He's not replying at present.
Maybe he's hiding under a bridge?

He was told to take this topic to Politics but he so far hasn't dared.
So he tried here again.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Melion wrote: »

Would i get banned if i called him an idiot?

Well, Jane Eyre called him a moron and seems to have gotten away with it. Also, calling him an idiot is more a statememt of fact than an opinion.

Notice the way he doesn't come back to defend his opinoin. I say idiot, troll, Adrian Kennedy, or all three.

Chaotic_Forces

The Scientician wrote: »

First it's stealing.

Second, although there may be some abuse of the social welfare system, there aren't many people who would think it a good idea to get rid of it in its entirety.

Third, where do the magic jobs appear from that people can get after you get rid of it? Do you seriously think that all or most of the 400,000+ unemployed don't want to work? How come so many people are emigrating then?

Fourth, are you gonna pay for the inevitable civil unrest and crime epidemic that would result in people not being able to feed themselves or their kids>

Fifth, social welfare aids the creation of companies, see some of the Scandanavian countries for how social welfare backing helps local entrepreneurs.

I really doubt the OP was trying to start a debate.

jaffa20

Not sure if OP is trolling or just stupid..

dlofnep

Proud Libertarian wrote: »

Why does our government keep steeling our tax money to pay for people who not only dont work, but dont seem to want to work.

They do it to piss off the silly Libertarian types.. You sound pissed, so our cunning plan has worked!

Sonics2k

OP's post history says it all really.

Biggins

jaffa20 wrote: »

Not sure if OP is trolling or just stupid..

I suspect the two.

desaparecidos

People on the dole should be made servants to tax payers.

Polish my shoes, clean my car, take out my garbage, suck my cock etc.

Mint Sauce

Biggins wrote: »

He's not replying at present.
Maybe he's hiding under a bridge?

He was told to take this topic to Politics but he so far hasn't dared.
So he tried here again.

So thats the public sector, and the dole collecters. When do the private sector get their thread.

TwoShedsJackson

jaffa20 wrote: »

Not sure if OP is trolling or just stupid..

Can't it be both?

Aoifey!

irish-stew wrote: »

So thats the public sector, and the dole collecters. When do the private sector get their thread.

Oh I'm sure we'll be blessed with it soon :rolleyes:

Chris P. Bacon

desaparecidos wrote: »

People on the dole should be made servants to tax payers.

Polish my shoes, clean my car, take out my garbage, suck my cock etc.

No problem give me your address and ill call around to clean your car :rolleyes:

ilovesleep

OP, how about we kick out all the Polish and immirants. Problem sorted. Jobs for us.

Seriously though, I dont have a problem with SW recipients. I do have a problem with those politicians who are receiving fat pensions as a bonus for running the country into the ground. Thats bigger theft. I think there should be a cap on those fat pensions. Maybe cap pensions at 40 to 50k a year. Money saved from their fatter pensions can go towards job creation.

Biggins

irish-stew wrote: »

So thats the public sector, and the dole collecters. When do the private sector get their thread.

Well he's stirring about free economy's too: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056203103

If he was any serious, he's go to the appropriate forum for such a heavy topic.
He's not, he won't.

My troll detector is on high alert!

Chuck Stone

If the damn gubberment got out-tha-way I could set up my healthcare buisness selling body parts of captured street urchins.

3greenrizla's

abolish welfare... don't be silly... what happens if you get a long term illness or lose your job.

However I feel there is a strong argument for serious welfare reform. In my mind people staying on the dole for 5 years + should have their benefits seriously cut or at least be expected to do some sort community service to maintain them.

Likewise I feel it is unfair that someone who is over a year on the dole after working for for the last 10+ years gets €17 a week just because their partner works - they also get €0 rent allowance because they/the bank own the house that is now worth less than they paid for it.

KINGVictor

sheesh wrote: »

it spelt stealing.

and no it is not time for it.

I actually thought it was an error...but misspelling stealing twice in a post is unforgivable!
For you to put up this post indicates that you are working at the moment...now my question would be where do you work at? If it is a job that requires basic writing skills in English then the majority of folks on benefits will easily replace you in a jiffy...which essentially means you will become unemployed, that means you will become one of the "steelers"....

Chris P. Bacon

KINGVictor wrote: »

I actually thought it was an error...but misspelling stealing twice in a post is unforgivable!
For you to put up this post indicates that you are working at the moment...now my question would be where do you work at? If it is a job that requires basic writing skills in English then the majority of folks on benefits will easily replace you in a jiffy...which essentially means you will become unemployed, that means you will become one of the "steelers"....

Yes one full stop and capital letters are also very essential.

hoorsmelt

ilovesleep wrote: »

OP, how about we kick out all the Polish and immerants. Problem sorted. Jobs for us.

Seriously though, I think there should be a cap on those fat pensions that politicians have. Maybe cap pensions at 40 to 50k a year. Money saved from their fatter pensions can go towards job creation.

That'd be grand until we get kicked out of the EU and the services industry which relies on cheap labour dries up under the impact of the cuts. As for the OP, I think he should perhaps find his way to politics.ie, he'd fit in perfectly with that sites ethos being a troll and a right wing nutcase to boot.