Audi TT

sophie1234

Ive been looking around at second hand audi tts first off looking at 2009 one in audi centre its lovely but at 30k why wouldnt it be i was all set to go with it when i thought i really cant afford this till my other loan is paid off so i found a 2003 one with low millage but the difference is the engine size in the 2009 its a 2.o turbo and the 03 one in a 1.7 any one no if the 1.7 is lacking and not as good a car i suppose hence why u cant buy them in a 1.7/1.8 anymore?? its a huge price difference and kinda just wondering on people opions on the older ones? are they as good?
thanks

Tea 1000

sophie1234 wrote: »

Ive been looking around at second hand audi tts first off looking at 2009 one in audi centre its lovely but at 30k why wouldnt it be i was all set to go with it when i thought i really cant afford this till my other loan is paid off so i found a 2003 one with low millage but the difference is the engine size in the 2009 its a 2.o turbo and the 03 one in a 1.7 any one no if the 1.7 is lacking and not as good a car i suppose hence why u cant buy them in a 1.7/1.8 anymore?? its a huge price difference and kinda just wondering on people opions on the older ones? are they as good?
thanks

It's a 1.8 turbo in the old one, not 1.7. The new one has 4 different engine choices in the regular model, the 3.2 V6, the 2 litre Turbo - which has 200bhp, the 1.8 turbo, which has 160bhp and the 2 litre diesel which has 170bhp.
So you can get a 1.8 turbo in the new shape TT, but it'll still be dear. The reason the older one is so much cheaper is because it's older.
The older TT is still a good car to be fair. The 1.8 turbo in it is either 180bhp or 225bhp, depending on the model. You should drive one and see.

sophie1234

ive driven an 09 2.0 turbo and then the 2011 diesel quatro (AMAZING) im waiting for them to take the 03 out to test drive hopfully tomoro its a convertable i was just worried the 1.8 might be a bit slugish didnt relise it had a turbo id say ill settle with the 03 for now upgrade next year
I loved the diesel but they only came in 2010 (mid 09 there is some but cant be sourced second hand) and the price is to high)!!

thanks!!

Tea 1000

sophie1234 wrote: »

ive driven an 09 2.0 turbo and then the 2011 diesel quatro (AMAZING) im waiting for them to take the 03 out to test drive hopfully tomoro its a convertable i was just worried the 1.8 might be a bit slugish didnt relise it had a turbo id say ill settle with the 03 for now upgrade next year
I loved the diesel but they only came in 2010 (mid 09 there is some but cant be sourced second hand) and the price is to high)!!

thanks!!

You're welcome. But diesel sucks!

mickdw

The older one would be the 1.8T engine. This was available in various forms of tune. The best was 225bhp (twin exhuast) then there was a 180bhp (sngle exhuast) and some markets got a 150/160 bhp version of the 1.8T too.

I would advise you to get a quattro model (4 wheel drive) and tbh either the 180 or 225 bhp is pretty nice power wise.

If you are looking at various cars, check the sticker in the boot for engine KW rating. 132kw = 180bhp version. The exhuasts may have been upgraded so that is not a definite way to tell.

The 1.8T engine is excellent once you keep the oil changed regularily and use the correct oil.
I owned a 1.8T 180bhp quattro and it was an excellent car. Many of the new models are only front drive and this is a big draw back IMO

sophie1234

mickdw wrote: »

The older one would be the 1.8T engine. This was available in various forms of tune. The best was 225bhp (twin exhuast) then there was a 180bhp (sngle exhuast) and some markets got a 150/160 bhp version of the 1.8T too.

I would advise you to get a quattro model (4 wheel drive) and tbh either the 180 or 225 bhp is pretty nice power wise.

If you are looking at various cars, check the sticker in the boot for engine KW rating. 132kw = 180bhp version. The exhuasts may have been upgraded so that is not a definite way to tell.

The 1.8T engine is excellent once you keep the oil changed regularily and use the correct oil.
I owned a 1.8T 180bhp quattro and it was an excellent car. Many of the new models are only front drive and this is a big draw back IMO

i was after a quattro but they seem impossible to find in an 03/04 i dont want to go lower then 03 and the quattro in the newer models are a much higher litre and tax is to much i did find that the 09 was a front wheel drive would the 03 one be as well? im worried about going private with an 03 car because id like some form of warrenty so the garages ive been to have offered 6months on an 03/04 which im happy with. im still looking around to see whats out there in the tt range!

Tea 1000

sophie1234 wrote: »

i was after a quattro but they seem impossible to find in an 03/04 i dont want to go lower then 03 and the quattro in the newer models are a much higher litre and tax is to much i did find that the 09 was a front wheel drive would the 03 one be as well? im worried about going private with an 03 car because id like some form of warrenty so the garages ive been to have offered 6months on an 03/04 which im happy with. im still looking around to see whats out there in the tt range!

There is a 3.2 V6 one which were all quattro, but some of the 1.8 turbo models are quattro also. It's just a case of finding one!

TheZohanS

Had a 2005 TT Quattro 180bhp, best car I've ever owned. If you're buying a secondhand TT make sure the timing chain has been changed.

Also if you're buying a MK2 model be aware that the tax is actually cheaper on pre-2008 models(same cars just the different tax system) by about €50.

Cyrus

this is all in general terms but:

ANything older than 07 is a mark 1 TT, hence they are a lot cheaper than the new mark 2.

Mark 1s mostly came with the 1.8T engine, vast majority are quattro (you will see a badge to denote this on the front and rear) and came with either 180bhp or 225 bhp (225 has two exhausts one either side).

Neither will be slow! and both will be quicker than the mark 2 quattro diesel i would imagine.

The mark 2 comes with 2 litre petrol (200bhp), 2 litre diesel (170bhp), 3.2 petrol (250bhp) and 1.8 petrol (160 bhp i think).

Mostly they tend to be fwd, altho the diesel is more likely to be quattro and the 3.2 is quattro only.

You should be able to pick up a 2007 Mk2 2.0 petrol for circa €22k, thats what id look for, very nice cars

mickdw

sophie1234 wrote: »

i was after a quattro but they seem impossible to find in an 03/04 i dont want to go lower then 03 and the quattro in the newer models are a much higher litre and tax is to much i did find that the 09 was a front wheel drive would the 03 one be as well? im worried about going private with an 03 car because id like some form of warrenty so the garages ive been to have offered 6months on an 03/04 which im happy with. im still looking around to see whats out there in the tt range!

I dont know about them being impossible to find. The majority of the coupe versions would be 180 bhp quattro. I would favour the coupe over the convertible even if I was a girl:D.

I would buy a TT private. If you test drive it well and take someone who knows them with you, you will be fine. Look for receipts/stamps for very regular oil changes. When I bought mine, the money spent on maintenance by previous owner was frightening but they can certainly be run on a budget similar to that of a golf (petrol aside) if you stay away from Main dealers etc.

sophie1234

is it a timing belt or chain in the tt.. i prefer the coupe to i no the back seats are not that much but its a nice saftey net to have them but others are saying its nice to have the convertable! im so stuck i love the tt but ive not idea witch way i wanna go i can get stuck in debt for the next 4 years and get a newer model or i can just buyer an older one pay cash price and not have to worry about another loan!! im now in search of a qauttro and looking around at private

Cyrus

sophie1234 wrote: »

is it a timing belt or chain in the tt.. i prefer the coupe to i no the back seats are not that much but its a nice saftey net to have them but others are saying its nice to have the convertable! im so stuck i love the tt but ive not idea witch way i wanna go i can get stuck in debt for the next 4 years and get a newer model or i can just buyer an older one pay cash price and not have to worry about another loan!! im now in search of a qauttro and looking around at private

i think most of the mk1s are quattro? even tho the advert may not say it specifically

sophie1234

Cyrus wrote: »

i think most of the mk1s are quattro? even tho the advert may not say it specifically

ive been to look at a few and none seem to be quattro thats what the garage is telling me anyways... but im still looking! hopfully ill find the right one soon :-D and sell my car also!!

Cyrus

im talking about the older shape ones ie pre 07

if its a new one i wouldnt bother with quattro, get the 2.0tfsi

bruce wayne

If you've got cash, I would head across to the UK and pick one up there

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=41

much bigger selection, particularly for the 225 bhp models

that's what I did

Wolverine_1999

Sophie, you're doing my head in without the punctuation. It's like trying to run an unlimited mile!

Back on topic. The old shape definitely fitted better in the Coupe form, however it's just a matter of taste with the newer shape as the lines fit very well with either the Coupe or the convertible.

sophie1234

Wolverine_1999 wrote: »

Sophie, you're doing my head in without the punctuation. It's like trying to run an unlimited mile!

Back on topic. The old shape definitely fitted better in the Coupe form, however it's just a matter of taste with the newer shape as the lines fit very well with either the Coupe or the convertible.

sorry, i know im really bad at punctuation!!! I'll try correct myself.


going to the uk could be an option, could you recomend sights for looking at uk cars?
Id only have cash tho if im getting the older model under 10K anything over that im going to have to go to the bank.

other reason i suppose why im looking in garage other then private is that the finance atm is much better then my bank options if im going to borrow(the bank kindly informed me of this)

I've so many options and im just so stuck and I need a new car , im so sick of my current car!!

mickdw

Ok so you prefer the coupe, get that then, better option overall. Should be no hassle at all getting a quattro. Plenty 225 bhp around too.

sophie1234

going up now to look at a quattro 02 one.
i didnt want to go as low as 02 as my current car is 02 but this one seems to be pretty good so heres hoping!

Michael 09

I have a 225bhp TT at the minute and I love it.... I'd definitely recommend one!

Also, the convertibles look sh1t, get the coupe :cool:

lomb

The convertible imho looks great, different than the coupe but still both are great. I have an 02 225bhp quattro convertible and it is lovely. I think most Irish ones are unfortunately sha*** so be very suspicious. The quattro needs the haldex oil and filter done every 20k and haldex oil every 10 afaik otherwise it will fail. Make sure you check the abs light as well as esp lights work when you press the switch and on start up. These get disabled when the quattro system fails and people take the bulbs out. It can add up to thousands to put right... Buy a UK car or imported in the last few years with history run by an enthusiast and with proof of haldex changes and you will be fine- otherwise run.

Some have bose sound system with bose written on the speakers and headunit on startup, which is good, mine didnt and i am rewiring it at the moment and fitting an amplifier and new speakers. They seem to be heavy on the suspension bushes so if you want to keep it right better keep the cheque book rolling...

ps the convertible is only a toy with very little luggage room so unless you have another car id get the coupe as you can fold the seats down to transport things.

mickdw

lomb wrote: »

The quattro needs the haldex oil and filter done every 20k and haldex oil every 10 afaik otherwise it will fail. Make sure you check the abs light as well as esp lights work when you press the switch and on start up. These get disabled when the quattro system fails and people take the bulbs out. It can add up to thousands to put right... Buy a UK car or imported in the last few years with history run by an enthusiast and with proof of haldex changes and you will be fine- otherwise run.

From memory, Im sure its 20k mile oil change for the haldex oil and 40k mile change for the haldex filter(which requires a special spanner).
When I went to local Audi dealer to buy a cartridge of the haldex oil for my TT, they didnt know what type of oil was required, which I thought was odd givn that its a service item. I then went away and found the part number for it and got them to order it. When I went to pick it up, service manager asked did I have a leak when I needed this oil. They had NEVER changed it on any service car.

lomb

mickdw wrote: »

From memory, Im sure its 20k mile oil change for the haldex oil and 40k mile change for the haldex filter(which requires a special spanner).
When I went to local Audi dealer to buy a cartridge of the haldex oil for my TT, they didnt know what type of oil was required, which I thought was odd givn that its a service item. I then went away and found the part number for it and got them to order it. When I went to pick it up, service manager asked did I have a leak when I needed this oil. They had NEVER changed it on any service car.

Correct you are, i just checked the service schedule,its 30k km haldex oil and 60000 km oil/filter.

Sounds about right, i know Annseley when they were in business never performed manufacturer servicing just what they thought it needed on VWs.
People in Ireland just wont spend the money on old cars ie anything with a reg plate the year before the current one, so the dealers are only catering to market demands.

Anyway I got the haldex oil and filter from GSF in Clondalkin recently for about 50 e, the tool is available on ebay for 25 or so euros now. I am doing up a set of ramps at the moment so i can raise it enough to get under it, thats the next job I sort the audio system out. I reakon a few road trips to the north and the west coast are on the cards with the top down and sound system and sun up

mickdw

hate the convertible tbh. horses for courses though.

lomb

mickdw wrote: »

hate the convertible tbh. horses for courses though.

Well i love it;) Course thats why there are so many different cars/jeeps out there .One persons cup of tea isnt anothers. I doubt il part with mine unless its for a MK2 Roadster RS, said to be a better drive than an R8 and id believe it. I better start saving:D

TheZohanS

mickdw wrote: »

hate the convertible tbh. horses for courses though.

The convertible with it's roof down is a great looking machine.

ArphaRima

I used to own a 2.0TFSI 08 model mk2 from new. Great car, and had absolutely zero issues with it. I wouldnt hesitate to buy one secondhand privately as long as the audi service history is intact. (an oil change in an alleyway is not a service)

Dont forget you arent talking about the same car at all. The Mk1 and the Mk2 are completely new revisions. I dont think you can really compare them on equal grounds. Its not like a slight facelift; its a whole new design. The mk1 has been chavved to hell in the last few years by modders. (though some well done it has to be said).
I would hold off and buy the mk2.

enfant terrible

I got a 2007 2.0l Petrol Mk2 in the last few weeks, there an amazing car to drive.

Bought it in a garage 20k no trade in, sold my old 00 private.

And if your getting the new type get one with the s tronic gearbox.

lomb

I personally would steer clear of VAG autos, their DSGs and autos give trouble long term so if I was buying to hold on to it I would go manual. Not to say theres no trouble from the Dual Mass flywheel but at least its affordable to fix.

I can't understand why the TT is not available in Quattro in manual without going for the higher models, sure you can have an s tronic or diesel in quattro but of course Audi know that enthusiast will pay much much more for the manual petrol quattro(about 22k more!). I think in a year or so as sales taper off of the RS they indeed will release the manual quattro.

sophie1234

wow guys thanks so much for all the help really apprechate it!
So much to look into now, started down the private route as well!!
Have a few lined up but i did notice that there isnt a huge amount of older ones on the market just goes to show that people are keeping them.

Thanks again!!

lomb

Keep an eye on adverts.ie and donedeal.ie
I got mine on donedeal, but there was a lovely sorted 2001 225bhp coupe with audi satnav and 120k miles owned by an enthusiast who had uprated the bushes and was as new more or less for 5k recently, i think its gone now though.
Definately check the service history though with evidence of haldex changes. Price in 450 for a belt,tensioners and water pump immediately unless theres proof of it done recently and that means more than a chalk mark on the timing belt cover. 20 valves being smashed if the belt fails is about 2k to fix.
I viewed the 2002 180bhp convertible in a Toyota dealer in Lucan have and there was a little top end rattle from the engine at 94k miles and somewhat worn brake discs with no specialist service history (chalk mark on belt cover, and serviced by the Blessington Tyre center or something)and a 7500 price tag. Lovely looker in black with mint paint and top but not a runner for me. Mechanics are more important than the paint work on old cars.