Slurry tanks 2000g.

David brown

Going to buy a tank and not sure which model to go for. what about swivel eye.worth paying extra for it. only experience when using one model was VERY bouncy. is there any model that doesnt do this. anyhelp appreciated

F.D

what ever tank you buy get drawbar suspension on it, i had to use a 1600 gallon with no suspension and could nt believe the shock it was trough the back of the tractor, have used other tanks with the suspension and it certainly makes a difference, i would go recessed if you can afford it also the bigger the wheels the better

seaniefitz

have a Herbst 2000 gal tank with swivel eye and drawbar suspension, no complaints after4 years

westlander

David brown wrote: »

Going to buy a tank and not sure which model to go for. what about swivel eye.worth paying extra for it. only experience when using one model was VERY bouncy. is there any model that doesnt do this. anyhelp appreciated

we have a 10 yr old 2100 gallon abbey tanker. Sprung drawbar is a great job when the tanker is full. The tractor is actually more comfortable on the road when theres a full load on as opposed to an empty tank. It just bounces up and down but not badly. You'll see 2 springs at the front of the draw bar for a sprung tanker.

scudster

It would also be worth getting filling points either side at the front of the tank. For the sake of a couple of hundred euro initally they sure take alot of twisting and turning out of it if you need to fill in a confined yard.

David brown

thanks for info lads. extra filling points are handy all right but little costly. maybe one on side might be handy.looking at majors and cross. anyone any experience about either and size of pump.10k or 8k not sure which.got lend of hi spec today.pretty good.told not to get swivel eye. not sure why though. never seen herbst. thought they only made dump trailers

Nobbies

8K LITRE PUMP WOULD b loads i believe 4that size of tank.if ujust get the extra filling points on both sides of the tank front and back should,nt cost that much extra.they just put blanks on them.it,s the actual valves that are costly.least then ucan switch around if needed.

David brown

Whatabout that tanker with low ccentre gravity .anyone ever used it?

Micheal H

David brown wrote: »

Whatabout that tanker with low ccentre gravity .anyone ever used it?

Never used one, but they look to be a fairly good job. But unless you are working on very hilly ground where you're in danger of turning a tank over, I wouldn't see much point in getting one.

We've been using Major tankers the last 10 years or so. Chassis seems to be built a lot stronger than most other brands I've seen, and they tend to hold their resale value a little better, too. As everyone else said previously, a sprung drawbar is essential. Side filler valves are handy, but only really necessary if you're going to be working in confined yards, where turning space is at a premium.

invicta

got 2000 gl. cross 4 years ago. Would recommend 10000 pump though as the 8000 is alot slower filling.The Cross and a Major(both 2000 gls) the major has the big pump and fills away faster.

David brown

i got a look at major today 2k spreading. liked the way the drawbar sprung.2050 lgp contractor.last of old model.8k pump. i think new one now has a 9k. i have 100hp tractor and it has no power spreading facing inti hill on takeover.i wonder is it possible to change gear ratio so i could increase revs. going to check out the groundhog by running gear.it is supposed to be very stable and easy pulled.

Pat the lad

Groundhog are a nice tank.huge tyres on them. Looking for 13 k at ploughing match

stanflt

David brown wrote: »

i got a look at major today 2k spreading. liked the way the drawbar sprung.2050 lgp contractor.last of old model.8k pump. i think new one now has a 9k. i have 100hp tractor and it has no power spreading facing inti hill on takeover.i wonder is it possible to change gear ratio so i could increase revs. going to check out the groundhog by running gear.it is supposed to be very stable and easy pulled.

bought a BELMAC 2100GAL back in jan-10000lt pump, sprung drawbar, and recessed. very easy pulled by a 2wd 90hp new holland tl90a. nice price 2only cost 9250inl vat.

David brown

was that 13 plus vat

David brown

dont know much about belmac but had that tank the big recessed tyres.that seems to add to cost significantly.couldnt have them big enough around these parts:D:D

stanflt

David brown wrote: »

dont know much about belmac but had that tank the big recessed tyres.that seems to add to cost significantly.couldnt have them big enough around these parts:D:D

23.1r26 on mine another 1500 for r30 the real wide ones

Evan28

Pat the lad wrote: »

Groundhog are a nice tank.huge tyres on them. Looking for 13 k at ploughing match

Nice tanker but looks too low to the ground

http://www.agrispread.com/slurrytankers.html

Saw the major one at the farm machinery show. a nice tank too
http://www.major-equipment.com/product/alpine_lgp_slurry_tankers_slurry_tanks_amp_accessories

David brown

But that's the whole idea. Never seen one although I hear good reports. As was said earlier only worth it for hilly ground. Thanks for links. Can't find it on you tube in action spreading.

Evan28

David brown wrote: »

But that's the whole idea. Never seen one although I hear good reports. As was said earlier only worth it for hilly ground. Thanks for links. Can't find it on you tube in action spreading.

I get ya but you dont want it so low to the ground that the drawbar could scrape of uneven ground. from the picture of the ground hog it looks like it is too low. maybe its just the picture though

David brown

I'll know tmrw. Going to see one in action. Wouldn't want to be any lower than ordinary tank

jeff greene

A wide angle PTO is great to have too, well worth it.

vanderbadger

jeff greene wrote: »

A wide angle PTO is great to have too, well worth it.

ya that would be a good idea alright, i need to keep my tank fairly straight with the driveshaft, how much about would a wide angle shaft be

jeff greene

vanderbadger wrote: »

ya that would be a good idea alright, i need to keep my tank fairly straight with the driveshaft, how much about would a wide angle shaft be

I use one off an old mower but they’re not cheap anyway.

F.D

David brown wrote: »

I'll know tmrw. Going to see one in action. Wouldn't want to be any lower than ordinary tank

you may take a few pics or a vid and stick it up here for us all to see

denis086

vanderbadger wrote: »

ya that would be a good idea alright, i need to keep my tank fairly straight with the driveshaft, how much about would a wide angle shaft be

I think €340 for a decent make from a dealer but theres different types theres 50deg or 70deg or something like that all to do with the joints and knuckles at the front. I could have gotten a cheap one for a bit less but the quality wasnt even in the iron in the knuckles and paint was even coming off and the cover didnt look like it would take much abuse either. Needless to say at that price ive still the old one. But ive only broken arounf half a dozen shearbolts in the time ive used it and a couple of those were the incorrect size i bought shear bolts and didnt check when i was putting them in about 1 mm too small and it just broke them for fun :rolleyes: The covers a getting worn on it now from being used to pull the shaft off so might replace it once we have the slurry done. it be worth doing if they are doing these inspections itd look like your concious of the dangers at least then if you could show the shafts youve replaced

About the tank we have 2300 on 100hp 6cyl so has a bit of weight for pulling it once the brakes are well kept and you take your time youd be grand on the hills once you wait till you have a bit of the load spread then try going up it we have 150 on it now and it will lose traction in the same spot the 100hp would so no benefit really
Get the swivel hitch just to make replacing the eye easier youd be surprised how quickly they wear. Some say that the standard hitch will help stop it over turning but its a load of bull if the tanks going over its going to go over its just a question of where the tractors going to go, with it or up into the air unless your lucky and the eye twists or the hook breaks
Worth getting the second set of lights put up top if your doing road work and a set of work lamps wired to a 3 pin power socket for night time spreading i found the tractor light no matter which way i adjusted them didnt give enough light and they say you loose less nitrogen in cool moist conditions
Sprung drawbar definitely saves wear on the hitch and the drivers back
youd get away with two fillers ive found but the third would be handy and i havent use the back filler in about 3 years only used for leaving out water when washing sheds because its lower now and the one at the side is much easier to line up
Get the 3 sight glasses up the front not the pipe they just seem to crack and arent very clear anyway so arent much use and are a complete pain to replace mind you we replaced it with stuff we got from abbey instead of hispec and we left it longer so it bulges out and its working well so far fingers crossed
Might be worth getting the pipe racks on both sides if your farm is split up nothing worse than hauling water with one pipe when you could bring 2 and get the 20ft pipe 15ft ones are useless and just stick to the floor and get a nice thick bit of angle iron and large dia. bolts and put it on the end of the pipe to avoid that the big bolt wont rot out of it. you can cut a V in the end of the pipe but it just curls in weve found this works better

F.D

just a thought as i was driving home from work today smelling the freshly spread slurry, i think it would be worth getting points fitted on the back of the tank for fitting an injector or trailing shoe in the future. i can see us eventually having to use these systems seen as there more common place in europe and with houses dotted all over the place now, at least if the tank is in good order in years to come you might only have to shell out for one of the above to be compliant.
i dont know how these options would work on the groundhog tank seen as its so low to the ground

David brown

jeff greene wrote: »

A wide angle PTO is great to have too, well worth it.

Good idea about long pipe and lights. Trailing shoe not suitable around here re brackets. I heard that about swivel eye preventing tank overturning. Re wear on hitch, put the pipes taking overflow of oil from spool valves directly over eye. Keeps it oiled consistently and enough to prevent wear.

Evan28

F.D wrote: »

just a thought as i was driving home from work today smelling the freshly spread slurry, i think it would be worth getting points fitted on the back of the tank for fitting an injector or trailing shoe in the future. i can see us eventually having to use these systems seen as there more common place in europe and with houses dotted all over the place now, at least if the tank is in good order in years to come you might only have to shell out for one of the above to be compliant.
i dont know how these options would work on the groundhog tank seen as its so low to the ground

we askedd about that and its not as easy as putting brackets on the back of the tanker -the extra weight from the injector means the tanker barrell has to be moved so its not to haevy at the back.


l dont think you could put an injector on the groundhog it would be too low. they dont make their own injectors either so it could be messy

jeff greene

David brown wrote: »

Good idea about long pipe and lights. Trailing shoe not suitable around here re brackets. I heard that about swivel eye preventing tank overturning. Re wear on hitch, put the pipes taking overflow of oil from spool valves directly over eye. Keeps it oiled consistently and enough to prevent wear.

Something I always did and taught I was right but apparently its better dry as soil and grit etc, mixed it oil or grease forms like a grinding paste increasing wear.

David brown

No it definitely works. i never had to replace an eye yet.

Evan28

David brown wrote: »

I'll know tmrw. Going to see one in action. Wouldn't want to be any lower than ordinary tank

did u get to see it working?

David brown

Got to see it but not working. Looks pretty impressive. Other than LCG it's standard tank. It wasnt 2k model so I didn't bother asking for demo. Looks very proportional. Seen hi spec 2300 and it looked far bigger than the 2600.wouldn't fancy replacing them tyres.

Evan28

especially with tyre prices on the up

Bitten & Hisses

I now find myself in a similar position to the OP following the demise of our ancient tanker. In fairness, it doesn't owe us anything. There is a bewildering range of tanks available on the market, so if anyone could tell of their experiences with different brands it would be much appreciated.
The only large tanker I have ever operated has been a Cross 2250 galvanised which I thought was a fine machine. I'd be looking at a 2000 to 2250 gallon tanker, painted, with the biggest tyres I can afford.

F.D

did you see the slurry kat one in the journal last week (i think) it was €16000 plus vat for a 2700 gallon tank and trailing shoe seemed ok value i thought providing they didnt get the currency mixed up, i always thought it would be dearer for a tank that size with the shoe on the back, maybe the smaller one would be good price

or i seen this on donedeal herron dont know what there like
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/machinery/2005442

Bitten & Hisses

Unless it's US dollars, 16K + VAT is outside my budget. That Herron tank looks nice and the price is right, especially for a 2500 gallon, but isn't it a bit of an unproven machine at this stage?

vanderbadger

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Unless it's US dollars, 16K + VAT is outside my budget. That Herron tank looks nice and the price is right, especially for a 2500 gallon, but isn't it a bit of an unproven machine at this stage?

not gone on the springs on the front for some reason, i know they are on lots of stuff now but i notice on the abbey tanks its more of a leaf suspension on the front as opposed to the springs, just looks a more solid job but maybe it makes no odds