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Car tyres brand and size

  • 03-03-2011 8:52pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3


    I have been reading the forums and looking into getting care tyres I need tyres size 205 60 r16
    I have gotten quotes

    150 per tyre continental
    140 per tyre michelin
    120 per tyre bridgestown
    110 per firestone
    120 per tyre goodyear
    92 per tyre kumho

    I can't tell the difference between or know if its a good deal I checked out eiretyres and cam skill like some boards members suggest but again can't really know what to go for i wouldn't do more than 7,000km per year but need to get something decent.

    I also looked up the aspect ratio if i go for 205 55 r16's there a much more common tyre and price is better as is range according to my searches the only difference getting a smaller aspect ratio is that when my speedometer is showing 50km ill be doing 48.4km( If i'm wrong please correct)

    Which brand should i go for and which size also if i go for the smaller size will i have problems with my insurer


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭andyseadog


    first thing i was going to say is to go for 205/55 R16, it will make no real difference to anything.

    if your sticking to your choices above, my money is on the firestones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    All those tyres will be at least reasonable. After that I'd just search reviews etc online and choose! Good man for not going for the cheapest of the cheap. Makes a big difference in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭kerten


    Going for 205/55/16 is wise advice as they will be 20% cheaper than 205/60/16 and difference in size is in acceptable range.

    I paid 400E for 4 michelin primacy hp 205/55/16 2 months ago and michelin sent me a 40E maxol voucher back. My original size was 205/50/16 and they were 125E each and hard to find.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 decconlon


    kerten wrote: »
    Going for 205/55/16 is wise advice as they will be 20% cheaper than 205/60/16 and difference in size is in acceptable range.

    I paid 400E for 4 michelin primacy hp 205/55/16 2 months ago and michelin sent me a 40E maxol voucher back. My original size was 205/50/16 and they were 125E each and hard to find.


    That seems like a great deal i have been checking out michelin tyres seemed expensive though. Did you buy them online. would you recommend those tyres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭MrDerp


    decconlon wrote: »
    I have been reading the forums and looking into getting care tyres I need tyres size 205 60 r16
    I have gotten quotes

    150 per tyre continental
    140 per tyre michelin
    120 per tyre bridgestown
    110 per firestone
    120 per tyre goodyear
    92 per tyre kumho

    I can't tell the difference between or know if its a good deal I checked out eiretyres and cam skill like some boards members suggest but again can't really know what to go for i wouldn't do more than 7,000km per year but need to get something decent.

    I also looked up the aspect ratio if i go for 205 55 r16's there a much more common tyre and price is better as is range according to my searches the only difference getting a smaller aspect ratio is that when my speedometer is showing 50km ill be doing 48.4km( If i'm wrong please correct)

    Which brand should i go for and which size also if i go for the smaller size will i have problems with my insurer

    Just to say, I put 4 kumhos on my focus at the end of last summer. 16,000km later they are still in great nick, no sign of any uneven wear, and they were perfectly adequate throughout the bad winter we had. In fact, I thought they were a bit better than the firestones I had the previous winter, though the kumhos would have been fresher by 6 months or so going in (and I might be a better winter driver now!)

    That said, my little focus can't accelerate all that quickly, so I don't know how well they'd behave on a more powerful car. They're certainly a great option for bog-standard Irish cars like mine though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭creedp


    kerten wrote: »
    Going for 205/55/16 is wise advice as they will be 20% cheaper than 205/60/16 and difference in size is in acceptable range.

    I paid 400E for 4 michelin primacy hp 205/55/16 2 months ago and michelin sent me a 40E maxol voucher back. My original size was 205/50/16 and they were 125E each and hard to find.

    I am interested in this point as I thought you were legally obliged to maintain the overall wheel diamater, i.e. I knew it was OK to lower the tyre profie if you increase the rim diameter. I have 225/50/17 tyres at present and these are considered an unusual size so everytime I go to replace I am restricted in range and the price is crazy. The last time I was charged €180 each for 2 Michelin Premacy tyres and this was after bargaining him down as the original quote was €200 each. When I had a blow out on one of these recently the call out guy fitted a Kuhmo for €140 (plus €100 call-out fee!!).

    My question is what would be a suitable alternative for me - 225/45/17 or 225/55/17. Presumably 225/60/17 would be too far out as an option.

    Thanks in advance for advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 decconlon


    creedp wrote: »
    I am interested in this point as I thought you were legally obliged to maintain the overall wheel diamater, i.e. I knew it was OK to lower the tyre profie if you increase the rim diameter. I have 225/50/17 tyres at present and these are considered an unusual size so everytime I go to replace I am restricted in range and the price is crazy. The last time I was charged €180 each for 2 Michelin Premacy tyres and this was after bargaining him down as the original quote was €200 each. When I had a blow out on one of these recently the call out guy fitted a Kuhmo for €140 (plus €100 call-out fee!!).

    My question is what would be a suitable alternative for me - 225/45/17 or 225/55/17. Presumably 225/60/17 would be too far out as an option.

    Thanks in advance for advice.

    I found a site that gives you the difference for your speedometer
    http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/visual-tyre-size-calculator

    If you use 255/55/r17:
    @ 30mph on your odometer you will be doing 31.0mph
    @ 60mph on your odometer you will be doing 62.1mph

    I don't know about legal ramifications that is why i posted here, I also don't know how this will effect ride comfort or tyre wear if someone does know please post and let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭kerten


    decconlon wrote: »
    That seems like a great deal i have been checking out michelin tyres seemed expensive though. Did you buy them online. would you recommend those tyres

    It was a good deal and it was a price including balance and fitting. I will send name of place via pm. They can do good prices for michelin. I even saw they do Michelin pilot sports for same price for this size which is sad for me :D

    Micheling primacy hp is a good tyre especially for motorways. Straight stability increased a lot after putting new tyres and they are grippy tyres. I felt a little bit more resistance than before to turn steering wheel which may be an issue if your steering wheel is heavy to turn but I may be picky only.

    They were doing bridgestone turanza er300 for 90 euro at that time for the same size which is another good tyre as well

    About size change, go to any tyre calculator site and calculate radius or diameter of your current size and size you want. if difference in diameter is in 2-3% range it is not dangerous. But research advantage and disadvantages of going for bigger or smaller sizes before doing change. comfort. economy, performance. etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Moanin


    MrDerp wrote: »
    Just to say, I put 4 kumhos on my focus at the end of last summer. 16,000km later they are still in great nick, no sign of any uneven wear, and they were perfectly adequate throughout the bad winter we had. In fact, I thought they were a bit better than the firestones I had the previous winter, though the kumhos would have been fresher by 6 months or so going in (and I might be a better winter driver now!)

    That said, my little focus can't accelerate all that quickly, so I don't know how well they'd behave on a more powerful car. They're certainly a great option for bog-standard Irish cars like mine though.

    +1 for Kumho.

    I have them on my Golf GTI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    decconlon wrote: »
    I don't know about legal ramifications that is why i posted here, I also don't know how this will effect ride comfort or tyre wear if someone does know please post and let me know.

    I have a car which normally have 205/60/R16.
    As I had winter tyres left from my previous car 205/55/R16, I put them on.

    Legally there's nothing really that such setup would be against any law.
    For NCT it's fine.
    Only problem might arise with insurance company, so I suppose you have to inform them.
    I did, told them the tyres type, size, speed index, weight index, etc... They said that it's fine.

    As diameter is 2cm smaller, so car is lowered by 1cm. It's not much but can make difference. Especially if you drive offroad or on high slowing ramps.

    Speedos are not correct anyway (they always show smaller speed then real). I compared it with GPS and with smaller tyres I had nice converting factor. Shown speed in miles * 1.5 was a real speed in kilometres. F.E When my speedo was showing 100MPH, so I was doing 150km/h.

    Car got a bit better acceleration, but max speed went down, and fuel consumption increased a small bit.

    Now I'm back for 205/60/R16 as I put my summer tyres again.
    But probably when I'll have to buy new summer tyres, I'll go for 205/55/R16 as they are cheaper and there's much bigger choice.

    Take a look at these: http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=71690578.124.32735&typ=D-102690&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Quer=55&Felge=16&weiter=45&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=124&sowigan=So

    They are much lower price, and almost the same quality as Goodyear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Briff wrote: »
    shilling post deleted

    What was the reason for doing wheel alignment in your car?
    Was it wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    I notice you did not look at Hankook tyres?
    getting good reviews.
    I will be putting them on my car when the time comes;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Briff wrote: »
    She was pulling slightly before and she aint pulling now, I mentioned this
    to your man and he said not too worry as wheel alignment is included in
    the price of 4 tyres. So i wasnt gonna argue with that. A fine deal
    I thought.

    Definitely it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    vectra wrote: »
    I notice you did not look at Hankook tyres?
    getting good reviews.
    I will be putting them on my car when the time comes;)

    Agreed, excellent durability at least.


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