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Payment for Polling Clerk Work

  • 02-03-2011 5:06pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭


    Hey, does anyone know when polling clerks are getting paid? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    It's usually a week after the election is held


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 newtoat


    What is the rate of pay? Does overtime come into play?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Busterie


    More like a month, this time they are not paying travel expenses.
    Last time it was about €450 net, they said it will be cut this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Busterie


    Just got paid for election down 30% on last time and no travel expenses.
    I was out before 6.30 taking down posters within 100m of center, never again.
    If anyone comes in without ID and polling card they will not be allowed to vote.
    2 can play this game.
    I urge other polling staff to do the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Busterie wrote: »
    Just got paid for election down 30% on last time and no travel expenses.
    I was out before 6.30 taking down posters within 100m of center, never again.
    If anyone comes in without ID and polling card they will not be allowed to vote.
    2 can play this game.
    I urge other polling staff to do the same.


    I thought that was the law?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Loveless


    gambiaman wrote: »
    I thought that was the law?

    Yes, happened to me. Had ID but not polling card.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Busterie wrote: »
    Just got paid for election down 30% on last time and no travel expenses.
    I was out before 6.30 taking down posters within 100m of center, never again.
    If anyone comes in without ID and polling card they will not be allowed to vote.
    2 can play this game.
    I urge other polling staff to do the same.
    Did you negotiate the rate before doing the work?
    What election are you referring to when you say "2 can play this game" as I presume you don't mean the last one?
    Why take it out on the electorate who want to exercise their vote? Did they do it to you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    Busterie wrote: »
    If anyone comes in without ID and polling card they will not be allowed to vote.
    gambiaman wrote: »
    I thought that was the law?
    Loveless wrote: »
    Yes, happened to me. Had ID but not polling card.

    Voters are not and never have been required to produce their polling card to vote. They may be asked to provide ID, but the polling card is just official notification to voters of the election date, polling times and their polling stations. You do not need to have it with you at the polling station.

    No polling card? You can still vote.

    SIX thousand polling stations will be open from 7am this morning to 10pm tonight as up to 3.2 million voters go to the polls.

    Many voters have not received their polling card from their local authority but they do not need them to cast their vote.

    The Department of the Environment has stressed that those who have not received or have mislaid their polling card can go to their polling station with appropriate identification.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    gizmo555 wrote: »
    Voters are not and never have been required to produce their polling card to vote. They may be asked to provide ID, but the polling card is just official notification to voters of the election date, polling times and their polling stations. You do not need to have it with you at the polling station.

    No polling card? You can still vote.

    SIX thousand polling stations will be open from 7am this morning to 10pm tonight as up to 3.2 million voters go to the polls.

    Many voters have not received their polling card from their local authority but they do not need them to cast their vote.

    The Department of the Environment has stressed that those who have not received or have mislaid their polling card can go to their polling station with appropriate identification.


    Surely all voters are asked for ID, was Busterie saying it's random if voters are asked for ID?
    Considering the register is in bits I would have thought first rule was, 'ID please!'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    gambiaman wrote: »
    Surely all voters are asked for ID, was Busterie saying it's random if voters are asked for ID?
    Considering the register is in bits I would have thought first rule was, 'ID please!'

    So far as I've observed as an ordinary voter, only a small minority of voters are asked to produce ID - I didn't see anyone being asked at my local polling station in the last election while I was there.

    Personally, down the years I've voted in Dublin, Wicklow and Mayo, in local, general, presidential, and European elections and in referenda.

    I've never been asked for ID and only very occasionally for my polling card. The odd time I was asked for my polling card, it wasn't to prove my identity, but so that polling staff could direct me to the right polling booth.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭ISAW


    gizmo555 wrote: »
    So far as I've observed as an ordinary voter, only a small minority of voters are asked to produce ID - I didn't see anyone being asked at my local polling station in the last election while I was there.

    Personally, down the years I've voted in Dublin, Wicklow and Mayo, in local, general, presidential, and European elections and in referenda.

    I've never been asked for ID and only very occasionally for my polling card. The odd time I was asked for my polling card, it wasn't to prove my identity, but so that polling staff could direct me to the right polling booth.

    Yes the staff want the polling card so they know where you are on the list. It has a register number.
    It is not necessary for you to have it but it saves time.

    Not everyone has to be asked for ID. The rule of thumb is that about one in four or moire are asked. Most people volunteer it anyway. And cuples or families come to vote together so if one has ID it isn't necessary to ask the others. Personally I am against the idea of a law requiring people to carry ID at all times. But they will need it to identify themselves at a poll. The staff will also accept iof the Garda or another staff person or personating agent knows you but it ids for the Preciding officer to decide whether to demand it or not. If that person gives you the vote you can not then be asked for ID after the paper has been issued.

    By the way if the person says "I live just down the road I forgot it I go home and get it " or "I left it in the car outside" I usually give them the option of taking an oath. that is why the Bible is on the desk. I have done it in most elections at least once. Last time I did it three times. I only ever took one affirmation ( anyone who is hyper christian and refuses to "swear" on the Bible, or an Muslim or atheist can affirm and it has the same legal effect.

    Next time you are in a polling station ask one of the staff if you can see their regulations about "affirmations" and "oaths".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭tarahill


    many polling clerks and presiding officers have not been paid as yet. which I feel is not right. this is in an electoral area in the east of the country. the ajoining area was paid 2 weeks after presidential election.the few I know that has not been paid is being told it will be in your bank account on such a day and hasnt arrived as yet the returning officer is now not answering the phone. these people carried out their part of the work they should be paid on time.

    as for whoever said do you not discuss the pay before you do the job that doesnt happen there is a set out ammount for the day and thats it. No travelling expences are paid any more to either presiding officers or polling clerks, that was explained at the presiding officers training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭tarahill


    well after receiving two e mails from presiding officer we still havent been paid in wicklow does anyone know why ?????? as in both e mails we were told payment would be in our accounts by end of week and hasnt arrived either times.


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