Regional Suicide

rodento

Just looking at the breakdown TD's in Donegal, kinda think it was a very poor judgement by the voters to vote in so many TD's who will be sitting in opposition :eek:

Why would a labour/FG government want to send investment up there

Pherekydes

rodento wrote: »

Why would a labour/FG government want to send investment up there

• Donegal is part of Ireland
• Donegal has been badly hit by emigration
• Donegal has been badly hit by unemployment

I'm sure there're other factors. I can't think of any really important ones.

ednwireland

donegal sw

FG dinny mcginly - the invisible man, shouldnt be in but FG have enough votes for one seat mcginly has done nothing so hasnt enough personal votes
to bring in a running mate

labour - frank mcbrearty, come on would you vote for him

lets be honest with the candidates up here we were long forgoten before this election (by our wonderful tainaste as well)

i personally think td's should be good candidates as well as just voting for th eparty (which no-one should do)

Maj Malfunction

ednwireland wrote: »

i personally think td's should be good candidates as well as just voting for the party (which no-one should do)

Are you serious?

That is one of the reasons this country needs political reform. Local issues should be managed by local government through the county councils.

It is wrong that if you want a pothole fixed, be bumped up the housing queue, get a planning decision reversed that you go to your local TD, all these types of issues should be managed at a local level.

IMO TD's should focus on issues of national importance and work to shape the strategic future of our country.

How are we supposed to change the mistakes of the past when we insist on the cute hoor and gombeen politics to run the country. We have seen where TD's and Race Tents and ignoring the advice of the Department of Finance has got us. Isn't it about time we changed and grew up as a country?

Isn't it about time we push for projects to deliver jobs and not bury them for five or so years in the planning process?
Isn't it about time we cut out the bureaucracy and inefficiencies in the civil/public service?

sceptre

rodento wrote: »

Why would a labour/FG government want to send investment up there

Have we honestly reached the stage where some people are deciding their vote based on some mental somersaulting tactic whereby they vote for the party most likely to be in government with the probable decisions of other voters in other constituencies in mind?

I'd assume that a competent government would send investment there as it's part of Ireland (as opposed to the John O'Donoghue or Ned O'Keeffe-style notion that the local peasants owe some sort of feudal fealty to the TD as the rightful replacement to the ancient warlord) but hey, I'm an idealist at times...

Permabear

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GSF

Infrastructure & education is what Donegal really needs. Few big employers want to locate there because of poor road and other services. Plus Donegal has a high school drop out rate meaning construction was the only real way to employ a lot of early school leavers. Now that has dried up, what other skills do these folks have?

steelcityblues

rodento wrote: »

Just looking at the breakdown TD's in Donegal, kinda think it was a very poor judgement by the voters to vote in so many TD's who will be sitting in opposition :eek:

Why would a labour/FG government want to send investment up there

Because Mary Coughlan proved to be such a dynamic, honest, and intelligent politician.

ednwireland

Maj Malfunction wrote: »

Are you serious?

That is one of the reasons this country needs political reform. Local issues should be managed by local government through the county councils.

It is wrong that if you want a pothole fixed, be bumped up the housing queue, get a planning decision reversed that you go to your local TD, all these types of issues should be managed at a local level.

IMO TD's should focus on issues of national importance and work to shape the strategic future of our country.

How are we supposed to change the mistakes of the past when we insist on the cute hoor and gombeen politics to run the country. We have seen where TD's and Race Tents and ignoring the advice of the Department of Finance has got us. Isn't it about time we changed and grew up as a country?

Isn't it about time we push for projects to deliver jobs and not bury them for five or so years in the planning process?
Isn't it about time we cut out the bureaucracy and inefficiencies in the civil/public service?

so i should vote for a cute hoor just because he's a member of the right party, now where did that get us,

oh and i voted independant because he had the best chance of keeping the 2 FF's out

rodento

Permabear wrote: »

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Do you really think that Sinn Féin will really do anything that will antagonise their electorate in the north :eek:

Maj Malfunction wrote: »

Are you serious?

That is one of the reasons this country needs political reform. Local issues should be managed by local government through the county councils.

It is wrong that if you want a pothole fixed, be bumped up the housing queue, get a planning decision reversed that you go to your local TD, all these types of issues should be managed at a local level.

IMO TD's should focus on issues of national importance and work to shape the strategic future of our country.

How are we supposed to change the mistakes of the past when we insist on the cute hoor and gombeen politics to run the country. We have seen where TD's and Race Tents and ignoring the advice of the Department of Finance has got us. Isn't it about time we changed and grew up as a country?

Isn't it about time we push for projects to deliver jobs and not bury them for five or so years in the planning process?
Isn't it about time we cut out the bureaucracy and inefficiencies in the civil/public service?

Most TD's are elected cause what what they can do locally so that simple won't happen overnight

sceptre wrote: »

Have we honestly reached the stage where some people are deciding their vote based on some mental somersaulting tactic whereby they vote for the party most likely to be in government with the probable decisions of other voters in other constituencies in mind?

I'd assume that a competent government would send investment there as it's part of Ireland (as opposed to the John O'Donoghue or Ned O'Keeffe-style notion that the local peasants owe some sort of feudal fealty to the TD as the rightful replacement to the ancient warlord) but hey, I'm an idealist at times...

Yes:rolleyes:

sceptre

rodento wrote: »

Yes:rolleyes:

You're going to have to give me more than that if you want a useful reply...

[Jackass]

Was listening to the radio today where their political system involved voting for only half of the members of parlimant, and whichever party has the most votes appoints the other half of parlimat.

i.e. the most popular party gets a comfortable overall majority and you vote for the party, not the person, and there are no coalitions with half baked policy and obstructions to election promises and 5 years of debate, reviews, studies and PR ... just do what you were voted in to do...

Our entire political system needs reform and the parish pump FF days must be put out to pasture now. 20 seats after ruining a country, all based on who their grandfathers father voted for all those years ago and nothing else and no longer relevant to modern Ireland and the historical factor in voting is holding the country back and is to blame for why FF were allowed run riot.

Blind party loyalty needs to be replaced with actual political substance.

rodento

sceptre wrote: »

Have we honestly reached the stage where some people are deciding their vote based on some mental somersaulting tactic whereby they vote for the party most likely to be in government with the probable decisions of other voters in other constituencies in mind?

I'd assume that a competent government would send investment there as it's part of Ireland (as opposed to the John O'Donoghue or Ned O'Keeffe-style notion that the local peasants owe some sort of feudal fealty to the TD as the rightful replacement to the ancient warlord) but hey, I'm an idealist at times...

Call me a cynic... But it doesn't make sence to have the majority of TD's batting for the opposition. Its the government that dicides where to spend and as such why would they support areas that don't really support them.

Politics has always been about what a TD or minster can for their local area...

Take gromley and the incinerator, decentralisation, etc...

I'll eat my hat if a moterway isn't fast-tracked to mayo...