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A FG independent alliance?

  • 01-03-2011 10:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭


    How practical wold this be? How likely is it? What implications could this have for a future opposition?

    Is FG and the country stronger with a strong FG with swing votes, but with a large opposition

    Or one in which two divergent ideologies have to 'get along' like in the UK at the moment?
    :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    How practical wold this be? How likely is it? What implications could this have for a future opposition?

    Is FG and the country stronger with a strong FG with swing votes, but with a large opposition

    Or one in which two divergent ideologies have to 'get along' like in the UK at the moment?
    :confused:

    A Grand Coalition like FG/Labour worked not too bad in Germany not too long ago. The two parties involved just have to work together for the good of the country rather than insisting on their own point of view.
    It's all about finding a common ground and compromises.

    Give them a chance, I would say ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭leincar


    There are fifteen independents. I think Fine Gael could only go with Grealish, Ross, Donnelly and Mattie McGrath. Possibly Mick Wallace. That still leaves them two short.

    If they tried to bring in Lowry and Healy Rae, I think there would be an outcry considering how they held the last government to ransom.

    Seven of the remaining are left leaning, leaving Tom Fleming who I admit I know nothing about.

    I think at this stage a Fine/Gael coalition is the best option. While I didn't live here in the 90's most people I know tell me that John Bruton's coalition government with Labour worked very well. Here's hoping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭whacker00


    LUKE 'MING' FLANAGAN, did mention today on 6 one that he would not rule out talking to FG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    The Independent route would be too risky I'd say. As Noonan would put it: there'd be a good few high maintenance independents if they tried to do it this way. Possible sure, but they'd be hamstrung on issues like local hospitals and similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Shea O'Meara


    I would love to see it.
    I understand Labour would like to be in some form of power, but as reported yesterday if they became the main opposition it would starve FFail of oxygen.
    In my view, I would rather Labour stick to it's guns with the possibility of taking a majority next election than go in with FG with potential Green issues...if you get me. A watering of policies, a back scratching excercise and the lame 'It was like that when we got here, so it was and we can't change it now'.
    FG and indies would hopefully bode well for the country anyhoo.
    I would be very hopefull of an Irish future were FG and Labour remain the two leading yet opposed parties, with FFail being a nightmarish blip on the underside of the political shoe.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Please God no.

    We really don't need people like Michael healy Rae demanding yet another bypass around Tralee (His father must have built like 29 of them already)

    We need a strong government that will not be held up by imbeciles and charlatans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭ixtlan


    In my view, I would rather Labour stick to it's guns with the possibility of taking a majority next election than go in with FG with potential Green issues...if you get me. A watering of policies, a back scratching excercise and the lame 'It was like that when we got here, so it was and we can't change it now'.

    The thing is though that if Lab/FG do not do a deal, then there may be no government. If they both play ball too hard, then it could end up in the extraordinary situation of the country needing another election.

    Very unlikely, but not impossible. In that scenario, a disillusioned public might give the current prospective government fewer seats, and others more... be they SF or even FF.

    Staying on the opposition sidelines (pending a new election) is not without serious risks for Labour.

    ix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    I'd drop Mick Wallace (he's far to flaky)

    Grealish, Ross, Donnelly, McGrath, Lowry, Healy-Rae, Ming Flanagan. And give Ceann Chomhairle to a FFer or Labour.


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