avd calf

whelan1

had a calf born on friday i assumed it was a friesian heifer , when i went to register it it turns out its supposed to be out of avd a bb bull... now it in no way looks like a bb. Does any one have any of his calves are they proine to being black and white... there is a chance it could be out of my br/fr bull, would you register it as a bb or a friesian , i bought the br fr bull on 22 may , this cow was ai'd on 21 may with the bb

leg wax

yes blues can come any colour from frs cows, i know thats not answering your question,i dont have any said bull. ring the sales rep and ask.

vanderbadger

whelan1 wrote: »

had a calf born on friday i assumed it was a friesian heifer , when i went to register it it turns out its supposed to be out of avd a bb bull... now it in no way looks like a bb. Does any one have any of his calves are they proine to being black and white... there is a chance it could be out of my br/fr bull, would you register it as a bb or a friesian , i bought the br fr bull on 22 may , this cow was ai'd on 21 may with the bb

how do you mean when you went to register it it turned out to be belgain blue? do you mean when you looked up ai sheet you realised sire was bb?
I have black and white bull calf, same color as freisan from a blue bull and a bluey colored cow so i guess it can happen

PMU

whelan1 wrote: »

had a calf born on friday i assumed it was a friesian heifer , when i went to register it it turns out its supposed to be out of avd a bb bull... now it in no way looks like a bb. Does any one have any of his calves are they proine to being black and white... there is a chance it could be out of my br/fr bull, would you register it as a bb or a friesian , i bought the br fr bull on 22 may , this cow was ai'd on 21 may with the bb

maybe the stock bull covered her aswell,only a day in it

whelan1

vanderbadger wrote: »

how do you mean when you went to register it it turned out to be belgain blue? do you mean when you looked up ai sheet you realised sire was bb?
I have black and white bull calf, same color as freisan from a blue bull and a bluey colored cow so i guess it can happen

when i checked on ai card she had been served with bb

mjcom4d

If I were you register her as the blue bring her to the mart in a couple weeks and she's not a problem anymore Belgian blue heifer calf nothing special about her made 360 in Carlow

bogman_bass

AVD was an all white bull so would give blue calves from friesians.

a blue and white bull (like EDJ) can give black and white calves from FR cows

whelan1

just checked calender that i write bull serves on and he served her when the arrived , so mystery over... goes to show that the fresh semen worked better than the ai straw

Shauny2010

Put down what you like
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to spot the difference between a BF and a BB

whelan1

Shauny2010 wrote: »

Put down what you like
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to spot the difference between a BF and a BB

well thank you, a fr heifer would be alot more valuable than a bb. Have you never seen a black and white bb

Shauny2010

Its not just the color, what about the narrow shape and general piss poor muscle of a BF compared to a BB

Butcher Boy

nothing guaranteed in cross breeding

whelan1

Shauny2010 wrote: »

Its not just the color, what about the narrow shape and general piss poor muscle of a BF compared to a BB

if it was a ho/fr and a bb there would be no problem knowing the difference

pakalasa

One very good tell-tale sign of a BB calf is it's narrow muzzle. It's mouth is always that bit narrower and smaller. This makes it harder for them to suckle when born.
It really can be hard enough to tell them apart when young. I had one BB born last year and it looked for all the world like a Fr.;)

Shauny2010

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;

Bodacious

whelan1 wrote: »

had a calf born on friday i assumed it was a friesian heifer , when i went to register it it turns out its supposed to be out of avd a bb bull... now it in no way looks like a bb. Does any one have any of his calves are they proine to being black and white... there is a chance it could be out of my br/fr bull, would you register it as a bb or a friesian , i bought the br fr bull on 22 may , this cow was ai'd on 21 may with the bb

AVD is very short gestation bull even for a blue(283 days) that cow of yours calved on 280 days so could well be a blue. What's the av gestation period of a 100% BF?

Hold off registering her for 2 weeks and back end/muscle should develop considerably more than her BF companions, AVD is very easy calving but should develop well.

pakalasa

Ya, wait a couple of weeks. A BB should be showing some muscle by then. Dont forget the 21 days though, for the birth date to regristration date, or you'll have the Law down on you.;)

whelan1

thanks lads , will wait and see

Bodacious

whelan1 wrote: »

thanks lads , will wait and see

Hi Whelan,

How is that calf doing did she develop an arse or was she from the FR bull? Would love to know

whelan1

well she didnt develop a square arse- she's a br/fr through and through:D

Bodacious

whelan1 wrote: »

well she didnt develop a square arse- she's a br/fr through and through:D

Ah. She worth more as a full br/fr to you anyway though isn't she?:D

whelan1

ye. i am happy out