Creatine or Protein?? Which???? :S

kev123kev

Hi, Im looking to find which would suit me best?

I'm 5ft 10in and of average build.

I currently train 3 times a week, once on strenght and conditioning and the other two times mainly on cardio.. Im looking to get bigger in general, like shoulders arms chest legs etc..
I have a cheap all in one shake which i take but it doesnt seem to be making much difference.

Im wondering if anyone can recommend either going on protein (like whey protein) or creatine or both?
I have time and dedication to train as well as my 3 set training sessions. (I play GAA).

Any advice would be much appreciated!

mjcom4d

Go with protein I heard creatin shrivels the manhood :eek:

Chris89

Take both sure, they are nutritional supplements not drugs so you wont be 'on' them any more than you are 'on' milk or water.


Speaking of milk and water though, drink lots.

Hanley

mjcom4d wrote: »

Go with protein I heard creatin shrivels the manhood :eek:

Are you being serious?

challengemaster

creatine for bulking, protein for recovery

Hanley

challengemaster wrote: »

creatine for bulking, protein for recovery

Protein for bulking, creatine for recovery.

RobFowl

challengemaster wrote: »

creatine for bulking, protein for recovery

The scientific evidence shows creatine has an effect on bulking but no effect on performance or recovery.
Protein supplements do seem to aid recovery though and would be a better option.
Overall though a balanced diet with attention to specific needs is the best stategy to improve overall fitness.

Rebrabuk

You could also just eat steak and get both

Kev M

RobFowl wrote: »

The scientific evidence shows creatine has an effect on bulking but no effect on performance or recovery.

So being bigger has no effect on performance?

Brian?

Rebrabuk wrote: »

You could also just eat steak and get both

This, sort of.

I never really found any benefit with creatine and it gave me a pain in the stomach. Whey is great for when you don't have time to eat.

Read the stickies, especially the one by Will Heffernan on pre/post workout nutrition.

But generally, eat more to gain weight. If you are eating enough you don't need anything else, if you're struggling to eat enough protein over the day then add in the odd weigh shake.

Hanley

RobFowl wrote: »

The scientific evidence shows creatine has an effect on bulking but no effect on performance or recovery.

What evidence?

The studies that have shown creatine increases the rate of restoration of muscle glycogen?

Or the ones where the replenishment of ATP-CP stores leads to faster recovery from short duration burst of high intensity exercise?

Errrrr.... yeah. You're wrong.

rubadub

Saw this the other day
http://www.ergo-log.com/wheycreatineglucose.html

In this study whey shakes worked just as well as shakes containing glucose and whey. If you want to lose fat, then whey shakes actually work better, but shakes containing creatine, glucose and whey work best of all. It's a shame that Cribb didn't look at shakes without glucose, but just whey and creatine. These would probably be even better for body composition.

Mellor

That's quite interesting, esp the graphs. Also notice that people on both protein and protien/glucose/creatine increased lean and total mass, and also lost body fat over the 10 weeks.

Agree re pro-cho-cre verses pro-cre shakes

mloc

Mellor wrote: »

Agree re pro-cho-cre verses pro-cre shakes

+ 1. Wouldn't be a very difficult study to perform.

celtictiger32

mjcom4d wrote: »

Go with protein I heard creatin shrivels the manhood :eek:

this is true i know from experience. but when you stop taking it will return to normal

mloc

celtictiger32 wrote: »

this is true i know from experience. but when you stop taking it will return to normal

Stop. Just stop.

celtictiger32

mloc wrote: »

Stop. Just stop.

just giving pre warning he might have a hot date coming up lol

g'em

lads creatine does not cause your manhood to shrink and we'll have no more of that rubbish anymore. Total and utter nonsense.

Brian?

g'em wrote: »

lads creatine does not cause your manhood to shrink and we'll have no more of that rubbish anymore. Total and utter nonsense.

It would be great if you never have to say that again. But no doubt you will.

gavney1

g'em wrote: »

lads creatine does not cause your manhood to shrink and we'll have no more of that rubbish anymore. Total and utter nonsense.

it can make it look small relative to your new massive muscles though

Uncle Mclovin

mjcom4d wrote: »

Go with protein I heard creatin shrivels the manhood :eek:

Self love (aka fapping) also gives one hairy hands.

It's true.

john_cappa

I know people are trying to be funny and ironic with their creatine gags but they have been done to death.