which spray

GERMAN ROCKS

im going reseeding a field back to grass after two years of fodder beet in it in the middle of march. what spray should I use. was going to spray it off next week. theres some switch grass in it.

reilig

There are loads of Glyphosate sprays out there that will do the job. Roundup being the most commonly known but there are several others like glyphos, buggy etc that might be cheaper. Last year when I reseeded I wanted a fast kill I was advised to use Roundup biactive. It was slightly more expensive but well worth it. The whole field had gone yellow in 7 days and after 14 days it was dead enough to harrow and reseed. In this sort of weather and this early in the year you need to use something that will give a good kill.

funny man

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

im going reseeding a field back to grass after two years of fodder beet in it in the middle of march. what spray should I use. was going to spray it off next week. theres some switch grass in it.

Glyphosate is the best product for complete kill-off, no need to spend extra on Biactive or pro Biactive as a sticker will do the same job added to the glyphosate and if conditions are ideal (no rain forcasted) no sticker required.

keep going

farmco in wex are doing glyphosphate at 60 eu per 20 litres i remember it being 200 a couple of years ago might be a goo d time to stock pile

reilig

funny man wrote: »

Glyphosate is the best product for complete kill-off, no need to spend extra on Biactive or pro Biactive as a sticker will do the same job added to the glyphosate and if conditions are ideal (no rain forcasted) no sticker required.

What sticker do you use? I have no experience of them????

nilhg

reilig wrote: »

What sticker do you use? I have no experience of them????

At the price it is these days better to keep the rate up than to start messing with stickers, they could work out dearer than the glyphospate.

Don't worry too much about the brand, any of the one's on the market should be fine.

funny man

nilhg wrote: »

At the price it is these days better to keep the rate up than to start messing with stickers, they could work out dearer than the glyphospate.

Don't worry too much about the brand, any of the one's on the market should be fine.

Not so "keeping the rate up" is costly and counterproductive and serves no additional purpose on kill off, use the rate on the can in dry weather and if wet use a sticker you will get an excellent kill, stickers are relatively cheap, diesel will do same if concerned about price.

reilig

funny man wrote: »

Not so "keeping the rate up" is costly and counterproductive and serves no additional purpose on kill off, use the rate on the can in dry weather and if wet use a sticker you will get an excellent kill, stickers are relatively cheap, diesel will do same if concerned about price.

Diesel is Carcinogenic. ie. It causes cancer and shouldn't be allowed near foodstuff or soil.

reilig

nilhg wrote: »

At the price it is these days better to keep the rate up than to start messing with stickers, they could work out dearer than the glyphospate.

Don't worry too much about the brand, any of the one's on the market should be fine.

A glyphosate without a sticker at this time of year won't work as fast as the OP needs it to (by mid march) as it needs warmth and growth in order to achieve a kill. Our weather is unpredictable also and a glyphosate with a sticker is a sure way of beating it.

Does anyone know any brands of "sticker" and have a costing for them??

Muckit

'Activator 90' (I think that's the name) Reilig is what I used. It's €15 for the bottle. Found it excellent when I used it to spray rushes last year. Got an excellent kill.

EDIT: just googled it. Seems to be the name alright. The bottle I bought of it was round (about the size of a washing up liquid bottle). There seesm to be bigger containers of it available.

funny man

reilig wrote: »

Diesel is Carcinogenic. ie. It causes cancer and shouldn't be allowed near foodstuff or soil.

so is coffee.

A glyphosate without a sticker at this time of year won't work as fast as the OP needs it to (by mid march) as it needs warmth and growth in order to achieve a kill. Our weather is unpredictable also and a glyphosate with a sticker is a sure way of beating it.

I'm not sure if you fully understand the role that a sticker plays when added to spray, it's not true to say that glyphosate without the sticker won't work as fast, in order for any spray to work it needs growth and the sticker dosn't contribute to that, what a sticker does is it helps the spray get a better contact to the plant and if rain is forcasted it will not wash off the plant as quick hence it's name sticker.

reilig

funny man wrote: »

so is coffee.

I know a young lad who had a cup of diesel instead of coffee one morning . . . . . . . . . . he was on the pot for a week.

Soil Contaminated with Diesel
Chronic exposure to benzene at sufficient concentrations is known to be associated with higher incidence of leukemia. Mercury and cyclodienes are known to induce higher incidences of kidney damage, some irreversible. PCBs and cyclodienes are linked to liver toxicity. Organophosphates and carbamates can induce a chain of responses leading to neuromuscular blockage. Many chlorinated solvents induce liver changes, kidney changes and depression of the central nervous system. There is an entire spectrum of further health effects such as headache, nausea, fatigue, eye irritation and skin rash for the above cited and other chemicals. At sufficient dosages a large number of soil contaminants can cause death by exposure via direct contact, inhalation or ingestion of contaminants in groundwater contaminated through soil.

World Health Organisation

nilhg

funny man wrote: »

Not so "keeping the rate up" is costly and counterproductive and serves no additional purpose on kill off, use the rate on the can in dry weather and if wet use a sticker you will get an excellent kill, stickers are relatively cheap, diesel will do same if concerned about price.

If it's wet keep the spray in the can.........

People are asking about stickers without any real knowledge of what they need, some stickers hold active ingredient on the outside of the leaves slowing down its entry into the plant, others soften the waxy layer to let AI in faster, it's horses for courses and you have to be sure what course suits your horse.

If you want the best "sticker" for glyposade, buy one of the biactive formulations, the best sticker is in there.

reilig wrote: »

A glyphosate without a sticker at this time of year won't work as fast as the OP needs it to (by mid march) as it needs warmth and growth in order to achieve a kill. Our weather is unpredictable also and a glyphosate with a sticker is a sure way of beating it.

Does anyone know any brands of "sticker" and have a costing for them??

Grass seed need warmth and growth too, putting them down is an investment that will be spread over many years, why be worried about a couple of weeks if you want to do the best possible job?