Help me decide on a HMR???

lefthooker

Hi all.
I'm looking to buy a.17 HMR, been talking to a few dealers & have settled on 3 models;
Savage 93R17 TR
CZ 452 Varmint
Sako Quad Synthetic Varmint
(unfortunately funds dont allow for Anschutz)
The Savage isn't available here yet but I like the look & it gets great reviews from the Yanks. Every dealer & owner sings the praises of CZ & they can't all be wrong. & the switch barrel Sako seems like a great idea for a multi calibre rimfire. All have they're pro's & cons for me.
I'd appreciate any views & opinions on the above models.
www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/93R17TR
www.sako.fi/sakoquadmodels.php?heavybarrel
www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-varmint

Thanx,
Lefty.

beanie10

Is a Marlin 917v out of the question?

Tackleberrywho

lefthooker wrote: »

Hi all.
I'm looking to buy a.17 HMR, been talking to a few dealers & have settled on 3 models;
Savage 93R17 TR
CZ 452 Varmint
Sako Quad Synthetic Varmint
(unfortunately funds dont allow for Anschutz)
The Savage isn't available here yet but I like the look & it gets great reviews from the Yanks. Every dealer & owner sings the praises of CZ & they can't all be wrong. & the switch barrel Sako seems like a great idea for a multi calibre rimfire. All have they're pro's & cons for me.
I'd appreciate any views & opinions on the above models.
www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/93R17TR
www.sako.fi/sakoquadmodels.php?heavybarrel
www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-varmint

Thanx,
Lefty.

If you want 2 rifles for the price of 1, and "if" the FO is sound go Sako and have a .22lr and a .17HMR

lefthooker

beanie10 wrote: »

Is a Marlin 917v out of the question?

I've held a 917v & shot a friends VS & neither did anything for me. Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the rifle but i just not getting that excited about them

lefthooker

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

If you want 2 rifles for the price of 1, and "if" the FO is sound go Sako and have a .22lr and a .17HMR

Thats the angle i was thinking along Tack. Get the HMR now & down the line sell/trade my .22lr for a .22 barrel for the quad. Or is it better to have 2 seperate rifles instead of switching barrels?

beanie10

AFAIK you need a license for each barrel

syconerd

buy this cost 750 you will never sell this cause you will love it

Weihrauch HW 66 - Especially developed for the hunter's target practice, but suitable for hunting as well. Well-designed and balanced with an excellent performance.

http://www.weihrauch-sport.de/englisch/e_startseite/e_index.htm

Tackleberrywho

lefthooker wrote: »

Thats the angle i was thinking along Tack. Get the HMR now & down the line sell/trade my .22lr for a .22 barrel for the quad. Or is it better to have 2 seperate rifles instead of switching barrels?

You need a licence for each barrel, but you can afford 1 expensive scope rather than 2 shi*e ones.
And the Trigger and feel of the rifle will be almost identical.

It's a great concept.

(of course you can buy a .223 and never look back lol )

lefthooker

A .223 is not for me, jus fancy something for longer range bunnies. I realise I'd need a license for each barrel but there's not much difference in licensing 2 barrels as in licensing 2 rifles. Is there?
Never thought i'd be considering trading my Savage MkII BTVLSS, which i luv to bits. Damn you Sako!!!!!!!

beanie10

Will you need a safe?

lefthooker

syconerd wrote: »

buy this cost 750 you will never sell this cause you will love it

Weihrauch HW 66 - Especially developed for the hunter's target practice, but suitable for hunting as well. Well-designed and balanced with an excellent performance.

http://www.weihrauch-sport.de/englisch/e_startseite/e_index.htm

I had considered it but didn't give it much more thought. There's a good article on it in Febs Sporting Rifle & there was 1 for sale on Boards not so long ago i think. I could live with a right handed bolt but would rather an ambi stock.

lefthooker

beanie10 wrote: »

Will you need a safe?

My safe is very welcoming to new tenants:D

stick shooter

You could get the cz 455 with the option of getting a second barrel later in .22lr or something . It works out a lot cheaper than the sako quad option .

lefthooker

Are the 455's available yet? What i'd really like CZ to do is make a synthetic varmint

It wasn't me!

Get yourself a lefthanded CZ 452 American. If you get bored of it, you can sell it to me.

stick shooter

There is a 6 week waiting on the cz 455 in most shops . And according to cz they say that the new 455 varmint shoots 20% tighter than the older 452 varmint Plus they are switch barrel.

lefthooker

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Get yourself a lefthanded CZ 452 American. If you get bored of it, you can sell it to me.

A FELLOW LEFTY?????
I'll sell you my lefthand savage if you really want 1 bad enough;)

It wasn't me!

lefthooker wrote: »

A FELLOW LEFTY?????
I'll sell you my lefthand savage if you really want 1 bad enough;)

Ah, Jaysus man... Don't do this to me... I really can't afford it/will get murdered if I buy another gun. Photos?

lefthooker

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Ah, Jaysus man... Don't do this to me... I really can't afford it/will get murdered if I buy another gun. Photos?

Haven't mastered the art of attaching photos yet, only graduated from the blackberry to decent broadband. PM me your mobile or email address if you really want to torment yourself.
Or for a teaser www.savgearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTVS its the righthand model but you get the idea

garv123

lefthooker wrote: »

A FELLOW LEFTY?????
I'll sell you my lefthand savage if you really want 1 bad enough;)

cant beat the leftys

theres a few on here.
im in the exact same situation as u for when im getting a hmr for the summer.
id love to find a lefty one cheap enough but not looking likely. next thing is the stock that is more suitable for both without the cheekpiece's

lefthooker

garv123 wrote: »

cant beat the leftys

theres a few on here.
im in the exact same situation as u for when im getting a hmr for the summer.
id love to find a lefty one cheap enough but not looking likely. next thing is the stock that is more suitable for both without the cheekpiece's

Studies show lefty's are generally more intelligent:D
The only lefthanded heavy barrel I know of is made by Savage but they don't come cheap. Resigned to getting an ambi stocked righthander. At least then you won't have the dealer trotting out the old "harder to shift lefthanded rifles" spiel if you go to trade up

It wasn't me!

lefthooker wrote: »

Haven't mastered the art of attaching photos yet, only graduated from the blackberry to decent broadband. PM me your mobile or email address if you really want to torment yourself.
Or for a teaser www.savgearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTVS its the righthand model but you get the idea

PM on the way. I've had a hankering for that model alright. Will take it to email, but you can send me a hopeful price with the photos.

lefthooker

PM received I'll get on it tomorrow.
Hopeful for who??? Me or you;)

It wasn't me!

lefthooker wrote: »

PM received I'll get on it tomorrow.
Hopeful for who??? Me or you;)

I've got no feckin' hope left, so yourself. I'd be more keen on a lighter sporter, like the CZ, but I'll see. Probably can't afford anything at all, but will take a look anyway.

lefthooker

Thats the spirit & no harm in looking:D a bit heavier than a CZ but fits like a glove

bunny shooter

Sako Quad or CZ Varmint

lefthooker

bunny shooter wrote: »

Sako Quad or CZ Varmint

Its starting to look that way. The savage is ruled out i think:( E800 a bit saucy & the end of May before the Irish importers would have 1.
Leaning towards the Sako, anything to be aware of like serious deviation in POI after changing barrels?

garv123

lefthooker wrote: »

Its starting to look that way. The savage is ruled out i think:( E800 a bit saucy & the end of May before the Irish importers would have 1.
Leaning towards the Sako, anything to be aware of like serious deviation in POI after changing barrels?

which model savage was that?

lefthooker

garv123 wrote: »

which model savage was that?

www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/93R17TR

garv123

lefthooker wrote: »

www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/93R17TR

$500 converts to €800 euro by the time you get to buy it here?:eek:

lefthooker

garv123 wrote: »

$500 converts to €800 euro by the time you get to buy it here?:eek:

Seemingly so. Thats the figure i was quoted from 1 very reputable local dealer or E900 for a TRR(comes with piccatinny rail type attachments) from the UK & unfortunately i don't think he's wrong. I've had 2, a Savage MkII BV cost E750 new & my current MkII BTVLSS cost E800. In contrast a CZ Varmint is listed as $480 by CZ-USA & only E500 here.

lefthooker

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

but you can afford 1 expensive scope rather than 2 shi*e ones.

Care to suggest a good quality scope to suit both .22lr & .17HMR? could i get away with fixed mag or is it better to have variable for different barrels. I imagine there's little change in POI with .22 zeroed @ 50yds & .17 zeroed @ 100(< 1" maybe)

moose112

lefthooker wrote: »

Care to suggest a good quality scope to suit both .22lr & .17HMR? could i get away with fixed mag or is it better to have variable for different barrels. I imagine there's little change in POI with .22 zeroed @ 50yds & .17 zeroed @ 100(< 1" maybe)

If you going with the quad and you plan on getting a second barrel you are better off going the road of the quad scope designed specially for the gun and the changing of barrels. No need for re zeoing just click the scope to match what barrel you have on.

murph226

That Quad scope didnt get grat reviews tbh!

zeissman

You could always buy the cz 452 varmit and then order a boyds tacticool stock for it.
This is the same stock as the one on the savage tr that you were after.
I just got one from them and find it great.
145 dollars delivered to my door. great value.

stick shooter

The cz 455 17hmr th are in stock at the moment in some shops over here at the moment ,Had one in my hand today and the stock felt pretty good ;)Bolt looks totally different from the 452 but by all accords they shoot dam good.

lefthooker

murph226 wrote: »

That Quad scope didnt get grat reviews tbh!

I had a look at some of the reviews & i don't think i'll be getting 1 of them. Thinking along the lines of bushnell elite 10x40. Some great reviews for the lads in the states using them on .308

lefthooker

zeissman wrote: »

You could always buy the cz 452 varmit and then order a boyds tacticool stock for it.
This is the same stock as the one on the savage tr that you were after.
I just got one from them and find it great.
145 dollars delivered to my door. great value.

How does the stock feel in the hand? What colour did ya get? Any work to be done to get the action to fit?

Stick shooter; 455 TH sure looks good alright but its the 1 setup i really couldn't get on with:(

murph226

zeissman wrote: »

You could always buy the cz 452 varmit and then order a boyds tacticool stock for it.
This is the same stock as the one on the savage tr that you were after.
I just got one from them and find it great.
145 dollars delivered to my door. great value.

Pics please!

zeissman

The stock feels great although it does make the rifle a bit heavier.
I mainly use the rifle for practicing with and it is great to use from a bench or on the ground with a bipod.
My rifle is the 453 varmit model so I did have to get a bit of inletting for the trigger.
The stocks are made for the 452 models so should go straight on without any fitting.
I dont know how to post pics but there are some photos on the web if you do a search.

lefthooker

Did Boyds have any in stock when you ordered or did you have to place a back order & was there much of a wait? been looking on their site & they seem to be temporarily out of stock for most models

zeissman

lefthooker wrote: »

Did Boyds have any in stock when you ordered or did you have to place a back order & was there much of a wait? been looking on their site & they seem to be temporarily out of stock for most models

They had them in stock when I ordered so I had it inside a week.
I got the black one.
They are very well finished and my rifle seems to be shooting beter since I put it on.