Is smoking 4/5 cigs a day better than smoking 40/60 a day?

wiger toods

I know its better not to smoke them at all but is less better than alot day to day. Ive read smoking less is worse! cant remember where but def read it somewhere anyway.

Forgot to mention it was the dumbest thing ive ever heard of!
Since ive cut down ive noticed huge benefits. the best being able to play a full 90 minutes, without having to have my arse hauled off the pitch after 60 because i cant run anymore!:D

Kadongy

Dont believe everything you read.

Blatter

no

PK2008

wiger toods wrote: »

I know its better not to smoke them at all but is less better than alot day to day.

Of course it is, and smoking 0 is even better for you

themadchef

Well it's sure as shít better for your wallet.

bobblepuzzle

mmm I am in flavour country

admiralofthefleet

im down to about 3/4 a day now but if less is worse then ill up my snout intake again

Kadongy

If you smoke over 100 a day it is actually good for you. Your lungs overcompensate. In Japan they actually require firemen to smoke this much because it reduces your vulnerability to fire.

easyeason3

*sparks up a fag & hacks up a lung*

Smoke away, we all have to die some day.

blueyedson

Smoking 50 a day is way cooler than only 5

wiger toods

Kadongy wrote: »

If you smoke over 100 a day it is actually good for you. Your lungs overcompensate. In Japan they actually require firemen to smoke this much because it reduces your vulnerability to fire.

:rolleyes:

Pace2008

wiger toods wrote: »

I know its better not to smoke them at all but is less better than alot day to day. Ive read smoking less is worse! cant remember where but def read it somewhere anyway.

Think I have that book as well. Some interesting facts in it - did you know the word "gullible" does not appear in the Oxford English Dictionary, for example?

Pace2008

wiger toods wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Double rolleyes for missing the blatantly obvious irony.

iPlop

wiger toods wrote: »

I know its better not to smoke them at all but is less better than alot day to day. Ive read smoking less is worse! cant remember where but def read it somewhere anyway.

Forgot to mention it was the dumbest thing ive ever heard of!
Since ive cut down ive noticed huge benefits. the best being able to play a full 90 minutes, without having to have my arse hauled off the pitch after 60 because i cant run anymore!:D

Try electronic cigarettes ,fantastic!

ElBarco

As a scientist I can reveal the following shocking secret. It actually works in packs of 20. First 20 - bad for you. Second 20 - cancels out the first 20. Third 20 - bad. Fourth 20 - good.

It's a bit like the trick they use with hot dogs sold in packs of 8 and the hot dog buns sold in packs of 6.

strobe

Sink The Banana wrote: »

Try electronic cigarettes ,fantastic!

Everyone's saying that. Where do you get them Sink? I checked in my chemist but they kept trying to give me those inhalator things instead.

iPlop

strobe wrote: »

Everyone's saying that. Where do you get them Sink? I checked in my chemist but they kept trying to give me those inhalator things instead.

Check my sig ,im off the real ones since September ,If you want detailed on which and what to get PM me ,as I have come across some shoite one's on the market ,especially the Jasper& Jasper sold in some of the chemists.I think it's more satisfying than smoking on all levels ,I have tried a fair few different types and have it down to a T now.

wiger toods

Pace2008 wrote: »

Double rolleyes for missing the blatantly obvious irony.

wasnt being a smartarse here btw! this was v funny, i rolled eyes, while laughing!

karlog

I heard that drinking more is better for you than drinking less because the more you drink the more tolerance your body has to alcohol. A hangover is your body's way of telling you it's adapting to the drink. Kind of like when your muscles feel sore the next day after a good workout. So drinking in moderation and waking up with no hangover is no good. That's like walking and calling it a workout when you should be jogging or sprinting.

This isn't some unreliable fact from someones mouth i actually read this somewhere.

strobe

Sink The Banana wrote: »

Check my sig ,im off the real ones since September ,If you want detailed on which and what to get PM me ,as I have come across some shoite one's on the market ,especially the Jasper& Jasper sold in some of the chemists.I think it's more satisfying than smoking on all levels ,I have tried a fair few different types and have it down to a T now.

"Sink The Banana has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages."

Cheers anyway man. Never seen that thread before. I'll have a look through it.

iPlop

strobe wrote: »

"Sink The Banana has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages."

Cheers anyway man. Never seen that thread before. I'll have a look through it.

Hang on till I check my settings ,I have been receiving PM's :eek:

Edit: I am enabled for Pm's ,I'll bring it up with one of the admins

Wibbs

Of course it is. The one area where science has taken a bit of a back seat is with the overhyped anti smoking crowd. Yes to flag the dangers of tobacco use was and is a good thing, but to forget science and common sense at the same time is daft. Bit irritating to boot. I know a man who smoked cigars(and didn't inhale) in college who was told by his (well known)oncologist, that his lung tumour at 78 was down to the cigars 50 years previously. Eh no. About as likely as finding fairies in your garden. Good doctor he may be, scientist he is not. There is such a thing as dosage and exposure over time. Like all poisons and carcinogens, though the latter is more complex. However it aint that complex.

mconigol

To be honest I don't think it's any worse than going out and drinking 10 pints followed by a load of junk food..

I always said that I would never smoke but I started having the odd one on a night out now and again and shockingly I quite like the social aspect to it. I'd rather have a little enjoyment and maybe die a few days younger than live to 90 and never have done anything. I could get hit by a bus in the morning or like many non-smokers die a painful death from cancer when I'm 50.

Everything in moderation and I think you'l be fairly ok...

veryangryman

Smoking is disgusting.

I know you didnt ask that question but i need to say it.

hardcore

If you smoke 4/6 over 40/60 then I would assume by my sharp mathematics that you would be 10 times less likely to get lung cancer.

the_syco

Depends what you do aside from smoking. If you plan on doing a lot of physical exercise, you'll be out of breath quicker if you smoked more.

ebixa82

Sink The Banana wrote: »

Check my sig ,im off the real ones since September ,If you want detailed on which and what to get PM me ,as I have come across some shoite one's on the market ,especially the Jasper& Jasper sold in some of the chemists.I think it's more satisfying than smoking on all levels ,I have tried a fair few different types and have it down to a T now.

If ur gonna waste money on "electronic" cigarettes you will never give up smoking as you are not breaking the habit/ritual of holding a cig and inhaling...

Fair enough you don't inhale any more chemicals but you will never give up cigs that way...just substituting them for real cigs...

Biggest con ever, and people who use them look retarded..

ebixa82

mconigol wrote: »

To be honest I don't think it's any worse than going out and drinking 10 pints followed by a load of junk food..

I always said that I would never smoke but I started having the odd one on a night out now and again and shockingly I quite like the social aspect to it. I'd rather have a little enjoyment and maybe die a few days younger than live to 90 and never have done anything. I could get hit by a bus in the morning or like many non-smokers die a painful death from cancer when I'm 50.

Everything in moderation and I think you'l be fairly ok...

Totally agree, that's why I've taken up heroin...

iPlop

ebixa82 wrote: »

If ur gonna waste money on "electronic" cigarettes you will never give up smoking as you are not breaking the habit/ritual of holding a cig and inhaling...

Fair enough you don't inhale any more chemicals but you will never give up cigs that way...just substituting them for real cigs...

Biggest con ever, and people who use them look retarded..

Another one of your helpful posts as usual ,thanks! BTW thanks for telling me I look like a retard!

mconigol

ebixa82 wrote: »

Totally agree, that's why I've taken up heroin...

Good for you

I can give you a lend of some needles if you want...that's how I got started :pac:

thebaz

ive heard the lights are no better for you than normal smokes, i'm on them as i try again to quit - you just drag harder - the only thing, they dont then last as long - i wish they had made cigs illegal , along time ago along with dope etc. , so i never could have started

galwegians

wiger toods wrote: »

I know its better not to smoke them at all but is less better than alot day to day. Ive read smoking less is worse! cant remember where but def read it somewhere anyway.

Forgot to mention it was the dumbest thing ive ever heard of!
Since ive cut down ive noticed huge benefits. the best being able to play a full 90 minutes, without having to have my arse hauled off the pitch after 60 because i cant run anymore!:D

Hi fellow galwegian, you might as well knock them on the head alltogther if you are down to a few a day, i was smoking 40 a day never had a fag out my hand, felt like **** and allways broke, read allen carrs easy way to stop smoking,
or use some niquitin patches, fags are no advantage to anyone,
i am just three months of them now and feel great and have nearly a hundred a week more cash in me poke, not bad eh.:D:D:D:D

SLAN LEAT

amacachi

Wibbs wrote: »

Of course it is. The one area where science has taken a bit of a back seat is with the overhyped anti smoking crowd. Yes to flag the dangers of tobacco use was and is a good thing, but to forget science and common sense at the same time is daft. Bit irritating to boot. I know a man who smoked cigars(and didn't inhale) in college who was told by his (well known)oncologist, that his lung tumour at 78 was down to the cigars 50 years previously. Eh no. About as likely as finding fairies in your garden. Good doctor he may be, scientist he is not. There is such a thing as dosage and exposure over time. Like all poisons and carcinogens, though the latter is more complex. However it aint that complex.

Could well have something to do with it though. I agree there's little more stupid than over-stating the dangers of something (see also: drugs) because it detracts from the effect of the message. Smoking is one thing that it's hard to overstate the negative effects of but they're trying their best to do so.

Nothingbetter2d

wiger toods wrote: »

I know its better not to smoke them at all but is less better than alot day to day. Ive read smoking less is worse! cant remember where but def read it somewhere anyway.

Forgot to mention it was the dumbest thing ive ever heard of!
Since ive cut down ive noticed huge benefits. the best being able to play a full 90 minutes, without having to have my arse hauled off the pitch after 60 because i cant run anymore!:D

it only takes one to give you that tumour if your unlucky enuff

mconigol

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

it only takes one to give you that tumour if your unlucky enuff

You could say that about anything in fairness though....aids/swine flu/sars/the list is endless....

Not that I'm saying smoking 50 a day is recommended but I do wonder sometimes when I see heavy smokers live well into the old age and relatively young smokers and non-smokers alike dying every day of the week.

I've an uncle who smoked like a bloody chimney (used to smoke superkings) for years and he's still going strong at 80+! Although there's something a bit crazy with him in that he can just give them up whenever he feels like it! Just gets a notion to stop one day and he does for years at a time!

ebixa82

mconigol wrote: »

Good for you

I can give you a lend of some needles if you want...that's how I got started :pac:

Doubtful, I smoke it...injecting is way too addictive...

ebixa82

Sink The Banana wrote: »

Another one of your helpful posts as usual ,thanks! BTW thanks for telling me I look like a retard!

I didn't say you look retarded...the people I have seen smoking them look retarded, I haven't seen you..

These cigarettes will never enable you to stop smoking completely, you will just become addicted to the electronic cigarettes instead in order to get your nicotine.

They are just a fad and will never catch on...

iPlop

ebixa82 wrote: »

I didn't say you look retarded...the people I have seen smoking them look retarded, I haven't seen you..

These cigarettes will never enable you to stop smoking completely, you will just become addicted to the electronic cigarettes instead in order to get your nicotine.

They are just a fad and will never catch on...

Bollocks!;)

Jesus Wept

No, it's not better.
It's less shit.

wiger toods

galwegians wrote: »

Hi fellow galwegian, you might as well knock them on the head alltogther if you are down to a few a day, i was smoking 40 a day never had a fag out my hand, felt like **** and allways broke, read allen carrs easy way to stop smoking,
or use some niquitin patches, fags are no advantage to anyone,
i am just three months of them now and feel great and have nearly a hundred a week more cash in me poke, not bad eh.:D:D:D:D

SLAN LEAT

HEY MAN! Ce chaoi a bhfuil tu? i have 10 of the fcuking things left! when i smoke those, im gonna give it another shot(giving em up). Gave them up for 3 1/2 days last week only to end up failing in the end.
As my mate says 'all you can do is keep trying and keep failing, until you get it right'. G G G Galway!!!!!!!:D

massdebater

OP I started a thread on this ages ago. This was the best piece of info got

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/31289.php

Kadongy

People who say that giving up smoking will be the hardest thing you do in your life; they have seriously easy lives. It's not easy, but it's not that hard either.

inforfun

Yes, it is much better.

For the curtains.