No Applicants. Whats wrong with this job ?

fatboypee

Hi all,

Appreciate some feedback here, we have been looking to recruit a developer for the last 3 months. Had a few applicants first time out, offered the job to one of them and the applicant turned it down. Since then we re-advertised but got only 1 application from Eastern Europe

So can ya take a look for me ? Whats wrong here ? Salary is pretty OK for what we're looking for (IMHO) and its only 20 mins from Limerick and with the new motoryway, all the better....

Is it, as my boss says the "Location" ?

Thanks

fbp.

Heres the link:
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mikemac

Even with the motorway, you'd be driving pretty hard to do Limerick to Nenagh in 20 minutes

Have you checked industry wide salary scales?
Is that the going rate you are offering?

Maybe ask TRBDI to advertise it for you, a lot of places send out newsletters. It'd be free

fatboypee

feelingstressed wrote: »

Even with the motorway, you'd be driving pretty hard to do Limerick to Nenagh in 20 minutes

Have you checked industry wide salary scales?
Is that the going rate you are offering?

Maybe ask TRBDI to advertise it for you, a lot of places send out newsletters. It'd be free

Thanks, will check it out.

I make it to Castletroy from Nenagh in 18 minutes and thats at a steady 120kmh, OK, not "Limerick,Limerick" but not far off it.

The salary is there,or there-abouts, no, its not Dublinnia rates but hey, its not Dublinnia..

Seems like a severe shortage of developers in the midwest, heard the other day Dell are having trouble filling c# positions too, just thought there'd be more than one (even that, extremely tenuous) application...

fbp.

daigo75

I'd say that the location is indeed an important factor. Perhaps you should consider allowing the candidates to work from home. With a good connection, there'll be little or no difference from having the person in the office (I've been trying to explain it thousands times, but the vast majority of employers expects a physical presence, even when it's counterproductive).

Salary is also important, as it creates a "catch 22" situation. Suppose you decide for the "work remotely" option: if you get a candidate from Dublin, he'll be facing higher costs, hence he'll expect a higher salary. Unfortunately, Dublin seems to be the largest pool of resources in Ireland...

The above is based on myself and my current position: ideally I could cover the role, but I'd not consider moving there, hence the two aspects I mentioned kick in.

fatboypee

daigo75 wrote: »

I'd say that the location is indeed an important factor. Perhaps you should consider allowing the candidates to work from home. With a good connection, there'll be little or no difference from having the person in the office (I've been trying to explain it thousands times, but the vast majority of employers expects a physical presence, even when it's counterproductive).

Salary is also important, as it creates a "catch 22" situation. Suppose you decide for the "work remotely" option: if you get a candidate from Dublin, he'll be facing higher costs, hence he'll expect a higher salary. Unfortunately, Dublin seems to be the largest pool of resources in Ireland...

The above is based on myself and my current position: ideally I could cover the role, but I'd not consider moving there, hence the two aspects I mentioned kick in.

Yep,

We do work from home on occasion but the nature of the work necessitates access to testing/lab environments and so is not 100% practical. Added to which the collaborative nature of the developments make home working viable for maybe 15-20% of the time..

seems tho that in these austere times people are reluctant to move role and anyone looking is rightly looking in the capital / larger cities to insure continuity should anything happen...

Can't blame them really, just still quite amazed nobody has applied...

Mac0783

Hi,

Am not an enginner so can't say anything about advertisement or job but I wondered have you considered advertising it with Fas and all the colleges? Then it would be going directly to the type of people you are looking for.

Just a thought, best of luck with it.

daigo75

fatboypee wrote: »

Yep,

We do work from home on occasion but the nature of the work necessitates access to testing/lab environments and so is not 100% practical. Added to which the collaborative nature of the developments make home working viable for maybe 15-20% of the time..

I don't want to start an argument, but, while I agree with the issue of accessing the testing and lab facilities, I must say that software development is one of the "perfect jobs" for remote workers. Teams don't need to be located in the same place to collaborate; in extreme cases, different time zones even forced teams to be more efficient!
Also, it's not necessary for a developer to spend precisely 40 (or more) hours a week doing his job. Once the team learns to work towards objectives, people become much more productive and less stressed.

Of course, not everybody can work this way (I dealt with "developers" who need to be monitored 150% of the time), but I know many who can.

Anyway, I'm digressing, sorry about that.

listermint

I would be contacting FAS , Colleges - (graduate programs) and also utilise tools such as linkdin. These are all powerful tools to facilitate you in obtaining the right person.

best of luck.

fatboypee

daigo75 wrote: »

I don't want to start an argument, but, while I agree with the issue of accessing the testing and lab facilities, I must say that software development is one of the "perfect jobs" for remote workers. Teams don't need to be located in the same place to collaborate; in extreme cases, different time zones even forced teams to be more efficient!
Also, it's not necessary for a developer to spend precisely 40 (or more) hours a week doing his job. Once the team learns to work towards objectives, people become much more productive and less stressed.

Of course, not everybody can work this way (I dealt with "developers" who need to be monitored 150% of the time), but I know many who can.

Anyway, I'm digressing, sorry about that.

Very true, it is, in usual circumstances, entirely do-able to facilitate home working development and if it were doable here it would be considered. Indeed some of my team are remote now (hence the need for a new person), some are outsourced development teams. In this case, the requirement is for an onsite developer to develop PBX applications so Lab access is essential.

We're looking at LinkedIn and also FAS now. Still, would've thought at least one viable application would have been made ...

thanks for all the replies.

ki

Hi fatboypee

Just tried to search for your job listing and it doesn't show.

link

amen

I think your problem is in the skills set. Anyone with those skills and experience is probably in a job and earning that amount if not more.

You might be better hiring a grad and training them.

jimmay!

Hi

I am a recent graduate with some development experience and i would be interested in this job, obviously i wouldn't be expecting the salary advertised

mood

Does the salary make the experience and skill set needed? I've seen a lot of jobs recently with not very realistic skill sets.

Where have you advertised apart for the link provided?

Does the company have a good reputation and treat staff well? If not that could be the problem. Word gets around!

Denerick

Too many requirements. Tone it down a little and they will come.

irishguy

There is a huge shortage of developers at the moment (We are taking on another 30 this year). We have been hiring (Mostly Java) for the last 6 months and we arent getting that much interest anymore. Have even got guys from around europe relocating here.

A couple of months ago there was a guy standing outside our building with a sign looking for VB developers

I would hire a grad/someone with 1/2 years and train them up. Most grads would only be delighted for a job.

Mrs OBumble

fatboypee wrote: »

seems tho that in these austere times people are reluctant to move role and anyone looking is rightly looking in the capital / larger cities to insure continuity should anything happen...

Indeed: anyone in a permanent role who's passed probation would be mad to leave it, unless they're being offered something very special.

I'm "only" a BA not a developer, but this line gives me a bad feeling about the job:

"​ We now have a very exciting opportunity for someone who is flexible and ready to work to share the rewards!"

It sounds like you're planning to pay rubbish, but to offer stock options or similar. And only recruiters offer "exciting opportunities".