HSA regulations and communion host

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:13pm #1

What are the regulation governing the mass production of food stuffs, its storage and distribution to consumers and how does this apply to communion host. I have not found anything on line. Does any one know anyone who makes the wafers or know how they are stored in churches.

chin_grin · 22-02-2011 4:14pm

Careful now!

AnonoBoy · 22-02-2011 4:14pm

God makes them and they're magicked down from heaven so it's grand, don't be worrying about it.

bonerm · 22-02-2011 4:15pm

They keep it in a cupboard with the other biscuits.

krudler · 22-02-2011 4:15pm

The priest makes them magically appear at mass with his jesus powers.

Run_to_da_hills · 22-02-2011 4:16pm

The Church is above HSA regulation so they can get away with it.

Kasabian · 22-02-2011 4:16pm

Woo hoo another I'm an Atheist thread. Rock on.

:rolleyes::pac:

orourkeda · 22-02-2011 4:17pm

Political correctness gone mad I say.

prinz · 22-02-2011 4:17pm

Time. Some people have too much of it.

Run_to_da_hills · 22-02-2011 4:17pm

bonerm wrote: »

They keep it in a cupboard with the other biscuits.

Taberknackle is the correct term.:p

FatherLen · 22-02-2011 4:18pm

TABERNACLE!!!

damn you run to the hills

22-02-2011 4:18pm

Kasabian wrote: »

Woo hoo another I'm an Atheist thread. Rock on.

:rolleyes::pac:

Way to insult every other religious person who doesn't take christian communion !

chin_grin · 22-02-2011 4:18pm

See....right....what they have....right....is the jesus......see......rotating around on a big kebab......no.....listen....and they just sliver off bits.....no really.....when it's time for communion......no really. Heard from a catholic so I did. It's soooo obvious....cos.....cos.....the way it's all dry....and that.....no it's true!

Kasabian · 22-02-2011 4:20pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Way to insult every other religious person who doesn't take christian communion !

You get me. I am happy.

orourkeda · 22-02-2011 4:20pm

Just eat the f*cking bread

TheZohanS · 22-02-2011 4:21pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

What are the regulation governing the mass production of food stuffs, its storage and distribution to consumers and how does this apply to communion host. I have not found anything on line. Does any one know anyone who makes the wafers or know how they are stored in churches.

I used to be an alter boy, they're stored in air-tight containers. The stuff is basically eating paper. What I'd be more worried about is the sharing of the wine, you could pick up a lot of nasties from sharing the one chalice. All the wine is branded with a cross and comes from an approved vineyard...tastes mank.

FatherLen · 22-02-2011 4:21pm

have you heard about the new low fat communion bread?

its called "i cant believe its not jesus"

orourkeda · 22-02-2011 4:25pm

FatherLen wrote: »

have you heard about the new low fat communion bread?

its called "i cant believe its not jesus"

I can't believe how bad that f*cking joke is.

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:26pm

TheZohan wrote: »

I used to be an alter boy, they're stored in air-tight containers. The stuff is basically eating paper. What I'd be more worried about is the sharing of the wine, you could pick up a lot of nasties from sharing the one chalice. All the wine is branded with a cross and comes from an approved vineyard...tastes mank.

Thanks for that. A genuine answer!
Im still wondering if
(1) HSA regulations apply where the wafers are made.
(2) If the wearing of gloves and or hair nets apply in the handling and distribution of the wafers
(3) Is hand washing a factor pefore the priest handles them and pops them directly into the consumers mouth or hands.

Im genuine. Do the regulations apply accross the board or is the church exempt?

Oh BTW. I was an alter boy aswell and the ramshackle Church i served in had mice, mould on the walls and the host was just stored in a box with grease proof paper over it

Junco Partner · 22-02-2011 4:27pm

i remember years ago when we were about to make our communion they showed us this video about the bread and nuns were making it in a convent dunno if thats whats done everywhere but thats where it was made for whatever parish that was.

although i was 7 at the time so maybe i'm remembering it wrong.

chin_grin · 22-02-2011 4:28pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Thanks for that. A genuine answer!

Praise the lawd!

FatherLen · 22-02-2011 4:29pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I can't believe how bad that f*cking joke is.

so is your face

_feedback_ · 22-02-2011 4:30pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

What are the regulation governing the mass production of food stuffs, its storage and distribution to consumers and how does this apply to communion host. I have not found anything on line. Does any one know anyone who makes the wafers or know how they are stored in churches.

How the fúck do people come up with questions like this?! :eek:

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:31pm

f0ggy92 wrote: »

i remember years ago when we were about to make our communion they showed us this video about the bread and nuns were making it in a convent dunno if thats whats done everywhere but thats where it was made for whatever parish that was.

I wonder if thats ok. Anyone from the catering industry on here who knows the regulations?

jester77 · 22-02-2011 4:32pm

The priest usually gets them on ebay and throws them into his fancy gold mug before the program begins

chin_grin · 22-02-2011 4:32pm

FatherLen wrote: »

so is your face

No no no no no it's "so's yer face". The 'is' ruins the rhythm of it.

orourkeda · 22-02-2011 4:32pm

FatherLen wrote: »

so is your face

Your oul one

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:33pm

elviscostello wrote: »

How the fúck do people come up with questions like this?! :eek:

Thinking......... try it!
Seriously. Communion wafers are made en masse and distributed en masse. This is catering and has its risks

TheZohanS · 22-02-2011 4:34pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dxpcu5Cdl8

FatherLen · 22-02-2011 4:35pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Thinking......... try it!
Seriously. Communion wafers are made en masse and distributed en masse. This is catering and has its risks

in mass........ frenchie

prinz · 22-02-2011 4:36pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Im genuine. Do the regulations apply accross the board or is the church exempt?

Took all of two minutes

http://www.lalor.ie/products/new-products/AB900

The church does not produce the hosts, these are manufactured by independent companies who are subjected to the same restrictions as everyone else.

Feel free to contact..

http://www.lalor.ie/contact-us

If you want info on some more suppliers..

Suppliers of communion hosts are listed in the Food List.

http://www.coeliac.ie/gf_living/taking_communion

Handwashing is a factor in distributing communion during services.

Junco Partner · 22-02-2011 4:40pm

TheZohan wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dxpcu5Cdl8

i think that is the very video we watched

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:41pm

prinz wrote: »

Took all of two minutes

http://www.lalor.ie/products/new-products/AB900

The church does not produce the hosts, these are manufactured by independent companies who are subjected to the same restrictions as everyone else.

Feel free to contact..

http://www.lalor.ie/contact-us

If you want info on some more suppliers..

http://www.coeliac.ie/gf_living/taking_communion

Handwashing is a factor in distributing communion during services.

Thanks for that. Are these regulations adhered to. Do health inspectors make checks I wonder.

prinz · 22-02-2011 4:44pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Thanks for that. Are these regulations adhered to. Do health inspectors make checks I wonder.

Do you lose sleep over health inspector visits and regulatory adherence in other manufacturers? Perhaps you should wonder about those congregations that use actual bread? Where do they get their bread? What brand do they buy? McCambridges? :eek:

http://www.fsai.ie Ask them.

22-02-2011 4:47pm

prinz wrote: »

Do you lose sleep over health inspector visits and regulatory adherence in other manufacturers?

It's 16:46, so I think it's safe to say he is not losing sleep over this one either

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:49pm

prinz wrote: »

Do you lose sleep over health inspector visits and regulatory adherence in other manufacturers? Perhaps you should wonder about those congregations that use actual bread? Where do they get their bread? What brand do they buy? McCambridges? :eek:

http://www.fsai.ie Ask them.

Nope. Im not losing sleep over this either. Im curious and have a strong moral sense of fair play. Anytime you want to gear shift up to the accusation of church bashing go on ahead... you know you want to..:)

FatherLen · 22-02-2011 4:51pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Nope. Im not losing sleep over this either. Im curious and have a strong moral sense of fair play. Anytime you want to gear shift up to the accusation of church bashing go on ahead... you know you want to..:)

church bashing in ah?????

chin_grin · 22-02-2011 4:51pm

bluewolf wrote: »

It's 1646, so I think it's safe to say he is not losing sleep over this one either

Jays us Irish. So technologically advanced!

And look at all these spuds! Spuds spuds spuds. I've got shoes made of spuds. They're amazing! I think spuds would last us another hundred years at least. The amount we have here.......

prinz · 22-02-2011 4:53pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Nope. Im not losing sleep over this either. Im curious and have a strong moral sense of fair play. Anytime you want to gear shift up to the accusation of church bashing go on ahead... you know you want to..:)

And a quick search on google provided contact details with numerous people to go and ask. Have you not been on to them yet no? Not that curious?

ejmaztec · 22-02-2011 4:54pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I can't believe how bad that f*cking joke is.

I can't believe that I've seen it twice on here in less than 24 hours. That joke moves in mysterious ways,

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 4:56pm

FatherLen wrote: »

church bashing in ah?????

Let me demonstrate:
Poster ; "Ummmmmmm. No offense but does the catholic church have to obey the same laws as the rest of us"

Irish catholic: "Oh here we go bashing the Church and trampling all over my beliefs. Stupid Atheists think they are so smart.. This is a catholic country yadda yadda blah blah bile bile..

Poster: Im just aski...

Irish catholic: "Go back to russia ya Commie baby eater"

...... that sort of thing....

ejmaztec · 22-02-2011 4:59pm

FatherLen wrote: »

church bashing in ah?????

Most of them here specifically target bishops when it cums comes to bashing.

Ghost Buster · 22-02-2011 5:00pm

prinz wrote: »

And a quick search on google provided contact details with numerous people to go and ask. Have you not been on to them yet no? Not that curious?

Paranoid much?
I found the HSA regualtions but no mention of if their remit stretches into the protected realm of the Church. Seeing as they dont have to comply with other laws or pay their own compensation I dont hink google is of any help. im looking for personal experience and possible insider knowledge.
I know in my own time as an alter boy the hygene levels were..... low.....

BTW most questions on here and elsewhere can be answered via google but human input and opinion is helpful.
Why do you single this thread out as only fit for google?
The a rhetorical question... we all know why...

prinz · 22-02-2011 5:03pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Paranoid much?
I found the HSA regualtions but no mention of if their remit stretches into the protected realm of the Church......

There is no "protected realm" in this matter. Most communion wafers used in RC services in this country come from independent manufacturers and suppliers from home and abroad as has been shown.

Junco Partner · 22-02-2011 5:04pm

is this seriously happening again?

IvyTheTerrible · 22-02-2011 5:06pm

Removing out of date info

prinz · 22-02-2011 5:06pm

Ghost Buster wrote: »

The a rhetorical question... we all know why...

So was the OP... keep fishing, you may just get your conspiracy theory yet.

hardCopy · 22-02-2011 5:06pm

Come on people, get a grip.

They're feeding people 2000 year old human flesh, a dose of E-Coli should be the least of your worries.

TheZohanS · 22-02-2011 5:07pm

prinz wrote: »

Do you lose sleep over health inspector visits and regulatory adherence in other manufacturers? Perhaps you should wonder about those congregations that use actual bread? Where do they get their bread? What brand do they buy? McCambridges? :eek:

http://www.fsai.ie Ask them.

He should be more worried about bakeries. There's a certain bakery just outside Gorey in Co. Wexford that I had reason to visit and you should see the state of it, absolutely disgraceful. They have dust,rodent droppings and dirt on all the overhead pipes and it just falls into the dough and onto product after it comes out of the ovens. It's contract cleaned by the lowest bidder and the contract cleaner states that the cleaning of the overhead pipes and anything outside the normal floors etc is outside their remit.

Stomach-turning stuff.

prinz · 22-02-2011 5:09pm

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

They refuse to make gluten free wafers for the coeliac Catholics. So coeliacs can't or shouldn't take communion.

Who refuses? This Germany company?

A German company Franz Hoch, is producing hosts using only Codex Alimentarius quality wheat starch and water (< 20 ppm). This is possible because unlike ordinary bread the hosts are extremely thin. These hosts have official Church approval. Importantly for Coeliacs, they have been approved by the scientific committee of the Italian Coeliac Society and also by the Coeliac Society of Ireland.These hosts are deemed gluten-free for the purposes of differentiating them by the Coeliac Society from ordinary hosts

WoollyRedHat · 22-02-2011 5:09pm

Do you chew or just swallow?

HSA regulations and communion host

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