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Question on the Counting System.

  • 22-02-2011 10:40am
    #1
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭


    I'm not 100% sure I fully understand the counting system. Sorry if this is a stupid question...

    If I vote the following:

    Pref 1) Candidate 'A'
    Pref 2) Candidate 'B'
    Pref 3) Candidate 'C'

    Now, suppose Candidate 'A' gets eliminated in the 3rd count and his votes are redistributed. And suppose that by then, Candidate 'B' has already been eliminated in one of the first 2 counts. Does that mean Candidate 'C' gets a transfer from me? Or is it just Candidate 'A's SECOND pref votes that get counted...where applicable....i.e. when the 2nd pref reciepient is still in the race?

    Furthermore....(More of a point rather than a question), if Candidate 'B' has been elected rather than eliminated in one of the first 2 counts, they say his surplus gets redistributed. My understanding is that when a "Surplus" is redistributed, it is only a small handful of transfers...so if the quota is 12,500 and candidate 'B' reaches 12,600 on the third count, it is only 100 votes that get redistributed....and these 100 votes are randomly slelected out of the 12,600 poool...which to me, turns the whole thing into more of a lottery than a democratic process - which I think is a farce and wide-open to corruption. If I'm understanding it correctly.


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  • #2
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    I'm not 100% sure I fully understand the counting system. Sorry if this is a stupid question...

    If I vote the following:

    Pref 1) Candidate 'A'
    Pref 2) Candidate 'B'
    Pref 3) Candidate 'C'

    Now, suppose Candidate 'A' gets eliminated in the 3rd count and his votes are redistributed. And suppose that by then, Candidate 'B' has already been eliminated in one of the first 2 counts. Does that mean Candidate 'C' gets a transfer from me?
    Yes
    Laois_Man wrote: »
    Furthermore....(More of a point rather than a question), if Candidate 'B' has been elected rather than eliminated in one of the first 2 counts, they say his surplus gets redistributed. My understanding is that when a "Surplus" is redistributed, it is only a small handful of transfers...so if the quota is 12,500 and candidate 'B' reaches 12,600 on the third count, it is only 100 votes that get redistributed....and these 100 votes are randomly slelected out of the 12,600 poool...which to me, turns the whole thing into more of a lottery than a democratic process - which I think is a farce and wide-open to corruption. If I'm understanding it correctly.
    You are not - if Candidate B gets elected without transfers all of B's number 2's are counted and then each candidate get the appropriate proportion of the surplus - this proportion is then selected randomnly

    If candidate B gets elected on a transfer then only the transfer votes are coutned to find the proportion and only vots from the transferred batch are selected randomnly in the appropriate proportion.

    Hope that answers your questions ;)


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