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Can't get the want for him out of my head

  • 21-02-2011 8:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    To cut a long story incredibly short, I slept with someone I really shouldn't have. It happened twice over a period of a few months, it was nothing more than sex, it couldn't be for reasons that I really don't want to go into right now. I know I shouldn't have slept with him in the first place, I turned it down to begin with, then for some reason changed my mind after a while. I think thoughts about it, what it would be like etc just started creeping into my head and in an out of character moment of weakness, I told him I was game for it. We hooked up and we had sex, then a few weeks later it happened again. I'll not lie, it was amazing sex...and that is exactly my problem here.

    This happening has changed absolutely nothing between us, we simply can't allow it to (again for reasons I don't want to get into) We've talked it over and we're both cool in that yeah we did the dirty, but it changes nothing, we just get on like nothing happened, that's absolutely fine. As everyone knows, and as there has been many many other threads here on it, in these situations it's not uncommon for one party to develop feelings, depsite being clear it's just sex. Now, I should stress, that is not he case here...I'm attracted to him obviously or else it just wouldn't have happened at all, but I don't have feelings for him in that way. YET. I'm worried I might just start to if it was to continue. I've always thought I was a strong person in that way but if I allowed myself to give in to my temptations in the first place, I fear I might not be a strong as I thought.

    I need get rid of the want to have sex with him. It should be simple I know but no matter how hard I try I can't get that urge to go away. As I have said, the sex was amazing, which is my problem. I have a pretty damn high sex drive and do think about it quite alot everyday, so naturally these things come into my head quite often, and because he was so bloody good, those times keep finding their way back into my head despite me trying not to think of it, and thus, I'm back to square one and finding myself wanting him again.

    Cutting contact is not an option, I simply can't do that. I keep myself busy with work and a course that I'm doing, I go out and do things that I enjoy, spending time with friends etc. I'm on the dating scene with varied success, hit it off with one bloke for a while there but it fizzled out after a bit. I know those are some of the most common suggestions thrown up for taking ones mind off something, not just something like this, but I can't seem to get rid of that want to sleep with him again. He was too good, he turns me on, and my high sex drive is being my own worst enemy here...

    So please, if anybody has any other advice as to how to get rid of that want please do tell me, all would be muchly appreciated!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭John400


    I'm on the dating scene with varied success, hit it off with one bloke for a while there but it fizzled out after a bit.
    I find this part of your post quite interesting.

    It suggests to me that you are genuinely looking to find somebody but your sexual relationship with this other guy may actually be hindering you.

    In my opinion you need to force yourself to cut this guy out of your life completely.

    Are you going to have sex with this guy for the rest of your life and leave aside possible future happiness with somebody who loves you for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    John400 wrote: »
    I find this part of your post quite interesting.

    It suggests to me that you are genuinely looking to find somebody but your sexual relationship with this other guy may actually be hindering you.

    In my opinion you need to force yourself to cut this guy out of your life completely.

    Are you going to have sex with this guy for the rest of your life and leave aside possible future happiness with somebody who loves you for you?

    Thanks for the reply. I am out there looking for somebody, I'm the same as everybody else I guess I do like having someone in my life and I don't want to be single for the rest of my life! But I'm not entirely sure what I am looking for at the moment, I am a very independant person and that has tended to have the odd detrimental effect on a few relationships/potential relationships. That was part of the problem with the last bloke I was seeing, he didn't really like that I liked to do my own thing at times, I'm definately not someone who going to be glued someone's side in a relationship, but most blokes I do hit it off with seem to be more of the "in each others pockets" type. That's just not me, I've tried compromising but it never seems to work enough!

    I don't think what happened is really hindering me in that way, I did feel a bit guilty when I was seeing the last bloke and yet I would still find myself occassionally thinking of the other guy in a sexual way. Not in that when I was with him I was thinking of the other guy, but say if I was in bed alone at night and my high sex drive had me horny again and the need to "sort myself out" came along (apologies if tmi!) I would occassionaly find myself thinking of the other guy, and not the guy I was seeing at the time. I just find myself in that situation automatically thinking of the best...and unfortunately the best in this case is the other guy. It wasn't into the realms of a serious relationship, it was still quite casual, but I did feel a little bit guilty about it.

    And I wish cutting contact was an option, it would be the easy answer to this, but I simply can't. I have to be in contact with him normally, I can't do anything about that, it's not everyday constant contact, but quite frequent. That's the problem, I need different ways to get him sexually out of my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 OhMeOhMy


    Make a list of all the things that you don't like about him and any time you think of him sexually, imagine him 'breaking wind' as you are performing fellatio

    Should repulse ya pretty quickly! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OhMeOhMy wrote: »
    Make a list of all the things that you don't like about him and any time you think of him sexually, imagine him 'breaking wind' as you are performing fellatio

    Should repulse ya pretty quickly! :)

    :D Cheers, that really did make me laugh at least! I've tried something similar to what your suggesting, but it's more I try to keep reminding myself of the things I don't like about him as somewhat of a precaution to make sure I really don't start develop any feelings for him. I do like him as a person, he's a decent bloke and if the situation was different it wouldn't be a problem, I know I probably would've went after him just like any other guy I fancy. But this, just, no! I was stupid to let it happen in the first place and I'd usually be smarter than that...too horny for my own good sometimes!

    I will give your idea a shot though, if nothing atleast the comedic factor of it might help to distract me out of it a bit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I'm guessing that he is in a relationship or married. That should be enough for you to keep away. Think of what could happen if anyone find out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭allovertheshop


    wow, i could have written this post myself, i'm going through the exact same thing at the moment...was with a guy a few times a couple of months ago, at time we both said it was only sex, he was "unavailable". turns out that when i see him now i want to be with him, can't cut him out of mty life due to too many connections...

    so, what i've started doing is everytime we get talking, i always ask about his other half, how she is, etc. to hear him go on about her is the biggest turn off ever and hopefully i'll gradually stop thinking unappropriate things and just see him as a guy in a relationship who isn't mine...

    best of luck OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭missmelo


    To op and allovertheshop,

    Put yourself in the girlfriends of the unresistable mens shoes, that should be a major turn off.

    these men cant be that special if they are cheating on their partners.

    OP i realise i am presuming this is what your talking about if im wrong im very sorry, it just sounds that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭John400


    mood wrote: »
    I'm guessing that he is in a relationship or married. That should be enough for you to keep away. Think of what could happen if anyone find out.
    OP, if this is the case then seriously cut this guy out of your life. Sorry to be straight here but it seems to me that he's using you to a degree.

    Also why on earth continue to run the risk of getting caught out by this guys' wife/girlfriend. Also can you imagine how she would feel if she knew?

    As i said, you can't keep sleeping with this guy when it is eventually going to hinder your chances of meeting a decent guy, if it hasn't already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    it couldn't be for reasons that I really don't want to go into right now

    (again for reasons I don't want to get into)

    For a short story that was a long post. If you're posting here anonymously then couldn't you have been open and honest about the reasons you slept with him in the first place? Isn't that the point of an anonymous forum?

    Anyway, it sounds like you need to concentrate on something else, and if you have a high sex drive you could try masturbation or self pleasure. If you're sex drive is really that high you could try working with yourself and look elsewhere in terms of dating.
    And I wish cutting contact was an option, it would be the easy answer to this, but I simply can't. I have to be in contact with him normally, I can't do anything about that, it's not everyday constant contact, but quite frequent. That's the problem, I need different ways to get him sexually out of my head.

    It sounds like he could either be your boss or someone related to your job or indeed a family relation through marriage. If he is (for arguments sake) your sister's brother, then he was the one who instigated it and he is still using you. You should tell him to back off or you will tell your sister, and despite the harshness that might come with that choice, you should make it clear you intend to if he doesn't leave well enough alone.

    He is using you, and has been from the start, and you need to simply learn to tell him no and to say to him that if he mentions this kind of thing again there will be serious consequence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi guys, once again I appreciate all your replies. I realise by not giving the full picture I'm not exactly enabling the best advice to be given, it's just even though this is anonymous I always have that fear in the back of my head of somebody might somehow put 2 and 2 together and get me! I know the chances are incredibly slim but I can't help myself!

    I'll bite the bullet a bit though, he is work related...he is not my boss, but he is higher up than me. Incredibly stupid, I know. I know full well all the horror stories you hear about these things yet I still did it. We discussed it and basically agreed that what happens outside of work, stays outside of work no matter what. I honestly don't believe that he would allow it to affect work or have me fired over it or whatever, maybe that sounds a bit naive of me but I just really don't think it would. I did however protect myself somewhat just so that should the sh*t ever actually hit the fan and he did ever try to use it against me, I would be able to make him think twice about it. I guess I partly didn't want to mention that bit to avoid the thread getting sidetracked with the inevitable "find yourself a new job", "you shouldn't sh*t where you eat", "office bike" etc etc comments. So please folks, spare me all that.
    Like I said, it has changed absolutely nothing between us, total professionalism in work, and I really do believe that what happened outside of work can stay outside of work...provided nothing get's weird, which is why I need to somehow stop those thoughts of him creeping into my head leaving me wanting to have sex with him again.. Jeeesus everytime I write that I think to myself "that's easy you dosey mare, stop thinking about having sex with him!!!!" but it just seems that's easier said than done!

    As for him using me, in a strange way that thought doesn't really bother me, it should do I know but I dunno...I am using him also I guess, we both used each other for sex, the feeling was mutual there, so in a weird way that seems to sit ok in my head??

    Allovertheshop...really do appreciate your post there, it's good to hear from someone in a similar situation! It's amazing that even though there are people that you know you should just never ever get involvled with, some of us somehow find ourselves getting involved despite our better judgement... I really do wish you the best of luck with your situation and hope your strategy works out for you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭James400


    I'll bite the bullet a bit though, he is work related...he is not my boss, but he is higher up than me. Incredibly stupid, I know. I know full well all the horror stories you hear about these things yet I still did it. We discussed it and basically agreed that what happens outside of work, stays outside of work no matter what. I honestly don't believe that he would allow it to affect work or have me fired over it or whatever, maybe that sounds a bit naive of me but I just really don't think it would. I did however protect myself somewhat just so that should the sh*t ever actually hit the fan and he did ever try to use it against me, I would be able to make him think twice about it. I guess I partly didn't want to mention that bit to avoid the thread getting sidetracked with the inevitable "find yourself a new job", "you shouldn't sh*t where you eat", "office bike" etc etc comments. So please folks, spare me all that.
    Like I said, it has changed absolutely nothing between us, total professionalism in work, and I really do believe that what happened outside of work can stay outside of work...provided nothing get's weird, which is why I need to somehow stop those thoughts of him creeping into my head leaving me wanting to have sex with him again.. Jeeesus everytime I write that I think to myself "that's easy you dosey mare, stop thinking about having sex with him!!!!" but it just seems that's easier said than done!

    As for him using me, in a strange way that thought doesn't really bother me, it should do I know but I dunno...I am using him also I guess, we both used each other for sex, the feeling was mutual there, so in a weird way that seems to sit ok in my head??
    Hi OP, i'm not intending to be disrespectful to you here but the fact that this guy is work-related/higher up than you in the organization then in my opinion you are being incredibly stupid and you are on dangerous ground here.

    You are alluding to the fact that you are both being discreet about this sexual relationship and being professional in work etc..but believe me, the ability of some work colleagues to sense that something is/may be going on between two colleagues can be amazing. If you continue carrying on with this guy, you are to a degree running the risk, firstly of other people/work colleagues finding out about it and secondly other people/work colleagues putting two and two together and spreading rumour and or gossip about you both. You most certainly don't need that.

    Is is using you? In a word, yes.

    If for instance if there was a mutal attraction between you both at work, you were both single and got on, he asked eventually say asked you out..then from a work perspective that would probably be allowable because colleagues would have realised you liked each other and probably be genuinely happy for you both. That's a diffeerent story.

    But having a sexual relationship outside the workplace? Dangerous ground.

    You need to cut him out of your life to avoid possible future embarassment/ malicious rumour etc...you don't need it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭John400


    James400 wrote: »
    Hi OP, i'm not intending to be disrespectful to you here but the fact that this guy is work-related/higher up than you in the organization then in my opinion you are being incredibly stupid and you are on dangerous ground here.

    You are alluding to the fact that you are both being discreet about this sexual relationship and being professional in work etc..but believe me, the ability of some work colleagues to sense that something is/may be going on between two colleagues can be amazing. If you continue carrying on with this guy, you are to a degree running the risk, firstly of other people/work colleagues finding out about it and secondly other people/work colleagues putting two and two together and spreading rumour and or gossip about you both. You most certainly don't need that.

    Is is using you? In a word, yes.

    If for instance if there was a mutal attraction between you both at work, you were both single and got on, he asked eventually say asked you out..then from a work perspective that would probably be allowable because colleagues would have realised you liked each other and probably be genuinely happy for you both. That's a diffeerent story.

    But having a sexual relationship outside the workplace? Dangerous ground.

    You need to cut him out of your life to avoid possible future embarassment/ malicious rumour etc...you don't need it.
    100% true.

    OP, you are going to have to cut this guy out of your life PERMANENTLY.

    As this guy is work-related you are taking unbelieveable risks, with firstly how people/colleagues percieve you and secondly probably risking your employment to a certain degree.

    As has been said, if this continues..it is only a matter of time before colleagues sense that something is going on between you both. Also, do you really need rumours flying about the place about what type of girl you are in other peoples minds? I actually think you were daft to get involved with this guy in the first place. He's 100% using you.

    As has been said, if you met another guy at work who was single, got on with him and eventually he asked you out, then that's okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    I'm not sure if I missed something but why is everyone assuming he isn't single?

    My understanding is he's more senior than her, they have strong sexual attraction but relationship hasn't been considered and the op knows she will develop unreciprocated romantic feelings if sex continues but she really misses the hot sex?

    If that's the case op then believe me I hear you, I've been there. I spent most of last year battling urges toward a man I knee wasn't boufriennd material but drove me wild.

    Unfortunately you are just gonna have to wait it out. Don't get into bed with him again or engage in flirtatious banter. That other guy obviously wasn't doing it for you so get out there, keep dating, flirting etc, someone will come along who fulfills all your needs.

    A crush (which is all this is) pass when you don't feed them and you are probably indulging a bit because you're a bit bored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭John400


    Katgurl wrote: »
    I'm not sure if I missed something but why is everyone assuming he isn't single?

    My understanding is he's more senior than her, they have strong sexual attraction but relationship hasn't been considered and the op knows she will develop unreciprocated romantic feelings if sex continues but she really misses the hot sex?
    Even if the senior guy at work is single, why on earth would you run the risk of other people/ work colleagues (or God forbid colleagues who are in at a more senior management level than this guy) eventually sussing out that something is going on between them?

    Just a personal opinon here but her having sex with somebody senior in her organization is incredibly stupid because to a degree she's actually risking her employment.

    As has been stated, you would be amazed at how other work colleagues can suss out something is going on between two people, even with the cloak and dagger/ keep it quiet aspect from the two of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭James400


    Also don't forget you run the risk of other people/ work colleagues spotting you both in public/elsewhere if this continues.

    Dangerous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Count Duckula


    Also, what's up with all this "he's only using you" talk? Given that the OP clearly states they were both in it for the sex, I'd say they were both using each other and there's nothing at all wrong with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Also, what's up with all this "he's only using you" talk? Given that the OP clearly states they were both in it for the sex, I'd say they were both using each other and there's nothing at all wrong with that.

    It's wrong because he is senior to her in the company. It could damage both their careers and puts the company at risk for being sued for sexual harassment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Katgurl wrote: »
    I'm not sure if I missed something but why is everyone assuming he isn't single?

    My understanding is he's more senior than her, they have strong sexual attraction but relationship hasn't been considered and the op knows she will develop unreciprocated romantic feelings if sex continues but she really misses the hot sex?

    If that's the case op then believe me I hear you, I've been there. I spent most of last year battling urges toward a man I knee wasn't boufriennd material but drove me wild.

    Unfortunately you are just gonna have to wait it out. Don't get into bed with him again or engage in flirtatious banter. That other guy obviously wasn't doing it for you so get out there, keep dating, flirting etc, someone will come along who fulfills all your needs.

    A crush (which is all this is) pass when you don't feed them and you are probably indulging a bit because you're a bit bored.

    Precisely correct. I'm really quite glad to hear someone who's had the same sort of situation. This is new for me and I've never done something like this before, so it's confusing my head a little as to why I have such urges towards him that don't seem to want to go away despite not feeling feelings for him in that way. I mean, I've had the odd one night stand and that before which were obviously just sex aswell, but I've never been left this horny for someone who I wasn't seeing in any sort of romantic way, if you get what I mean.

    You know what, you are right also, it is a crush, I've always knew I was a bit attracted to him but I never even thought of going there. Then when the subtle flirting started off and it became obvious that we were both singing from the same sheet with it, I really was like some blushing schoolkid when a crush shows an interest in you... I really thought until now that when you are in your 20's that crushes would be a thing of the past! I've been thinking about it over the past couple of days and I'm actually beginning to think it's also a bit of a "hero worship" thing, that's manifested in a way it shouldn't have. When I say he's not my boss but he's higher up than me, I mean alot higher up than me.

    As for rumours, once again that doesn't bother me as much as I know it should, and that's alot to blame on the culture of the company. Rumours are so unbelievably prevelant throughout the entire company that they quite honestly literally get taken no notice of anymore, and they are usually "so and so are at it ya know, I seen them, I overheard this" etc etc. I've been there quite a number of years now and I'm actually lucky in that I've only had one rumour about me so far, didn't bother me in the least it wasn't true but it was much to the same affect. I can actually only think of 1 or 2 people who there hasn't ever been any rumours about. Even the ones that are quite obviously true get taken no notice of, they do the circulation for a day or two then it's old news and no one cares no matter how massive it is. It's just that type of place, always has been.
    It's still no excuse I know, I was still stupid, I don't know what I was thinking, or actually wasn't thinking at all is probably better.

    Katgurl...did you just not allow yourself to give in to that temptation again? How did stop yourself with those urges?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Precisely correct. I'm really quite glad to hear someone who's had the same sort of situation. This is new for me and I've never done something like this before, so it's confusing my head a little as to why I have such urges towards him that don't seem to want to go away despite not feeling feelings for him in that way. I mean, I've had the odd one night stand and that before which were obviously just sex aswell, but I've never been left this horny for someone who I wasn't seeing in any sort of romantic way, if you get what I mean.

    You know what, you are right also, it is a crush, I've always knew I was a bit attracted to him but I never even thought of going there. Then when the subtle flirting started off and it became obvious that we were both singing from the same sheet with it, I really was like some blushing schoolkid when a crush shows an interest in you... I really thought until now that when you are in your 20's that crushes would be a thing of the past! I've been thinking about it over the past couple of days and I'm actually beginning to think it's also a bit of a "hero worship" thing, that's manifested in a way it shouldn't have. When I say he's not my boss but he's higher up than me, I mean alot higher up than me.

    As for rumours, once again that doesn't bother me as much as I know it should, and that's alot to blame on the culture of the company. Rumours are so unbelievably prevelant throughout the entire company that they quite honestly literally get taken no notice of anymore, and they are usually "so and so are at it ya know, I seen them, I overheard this" etc etc. I've been there quite a number of years now and I'm actually lucky in that I've only had one rumour about me so far, didn't bother me in the least it wasn't true but it was much to the same affect. I can actually only think of 1 or 2 people who there hasn't ever been any rumours about. Even the ones that are quite obviously true get taken no notice of, they do the circulation for a day or two then it's old news and no one cares no matter how massive it is. It's just that type of place, always has been.
    It's still no excuse I know, I was still stupid, I don't know what I was thinking, or actually wasn't thinking at all is probably better.

    Katgurl...did you just not allow yourself to give in to that temptation again? How did stop yourself with those urges?


    You're not gonna like this OP but there is no magic solution, you just have to have willpower. Think of it like giving up fags :) When an opportunity arises (you're probably on emails etc?) for flirtation, resist, resist, resist!

    Also, get the hero worship out of your head, seriously! Just readdress your vision of him in your head as a pathetic, old man, looking for a fling with a young girl for some validation. And remind yourself you are just another notch on his bedpost, not even good enough to be considered for a relationship.

    I'm saying these things knowing they may well be untrue but its good approach to getting over him.

    Plus, in your 20's and without a huge number of encounters, you are probably pleasantly surprised at the good sex, but believe me there is more out there waiting for you.

    Sit down and write a list of all the negative repercussions this could cause. I'm not talkign about the rumours and work drama potential; I would probably be like you - i couldn't give a crap what people want to say about me, if their own lives are so sad they have to obsess over mine that is their problem. But think long & hard about how difficult it you will find it when you inevitably fall for him and can't have him. Be honest with yourself. And decide you're not going to put yourself through it.

    And i stand by my previous advice - get out there and start flirting with other men as this screams of boredom. I guarantee once this pointless addiction has passed (it'll be quick because its pretty shallow) you will wonder what you ever saw in him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭James400


    Also, what's up with all this "he's only using you" talk? Given that the OP clearly states they were both in it for the sex, I'd say they were both using each other and there's nothing at all wrong with that.
    There's plenty wrong with it.

    Reckless and threatening her employment (if not his), malicious rumour etc...

    'mood' is right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Katgurl wrote: »
    You're not gonna like this OP but there is no magic solution, you just have to have willpower. Think of it like giving up fags :) When an opportunity arises (you're probably on emails etc?) for flirtation, resist, resist, resist!

    Also, get the hero worship out of your head, seriously! Just readdress your vision of him in your head as a pathetic, old man, looking for a fling with a young girl for some validation. And remind yourself you are just another notch on his bedpost, not even good enough to be considered for a relationship.

    I'm saying these things knowing they may well be untrue but its good approach to getting over him.

    Plus, in your 20's and without a huge number of encounters, you are probably pleasantly surprised at the good sex, but believe me there is more out there waiting for you.

    Sit down and write a list of all the negative repercussions this could cause. I'm not talkign about the rumours and work drama potential; I would probably be like you - i couldn't give a crap what people want to say about me, if their own lives are so sad they have to obsess over mine that is their problem. But think long & hard about how difficult it you will find it when you inevitably fall for him and can't have him. Be honest with yourself. And decide you're not going to put yourself through it.

    And i stand by my previous advice - get out there and start flirting with other men as this screams of boredom. I guarantee once this pointless addiction has passed (it'll be quick because its pretty shallow) you will wonder what you ever saw in him.

    Will power...the bane of my life!! Never had enough of it to give up the fags! I'll have to look at it that if I can give up one I can give up the other, because both really do need given up! And emails, yet another bane in my life, it's way too easy to get caught up in some flirtatious bant with them. I resisted sending anything even remotely flirtatious at all for quite a long time (seemed like a long time anyway) and it almost felt like an acheivement, till one came along one day and I just couldn't help myself with a little cheeky subtle innuendo reply... I honestly gave myself a slap in the forehead after I hit send as I knew that was it started up again, I was starting to feel like I was over all that but the little naughty monkey within went me let me down again :(

    But really thank you, your entire post there is brilliant and it's some fantastic advice. You're a star :D I think that is exactly the way I needed someone to make me look at it. I do look up to him in work, he's achieved alot for himself from very little and I have great respect for him for that, but I think looking at him the way you suggest can still go a long way in working. In my head I had basically separated him into two different people - outside of work when we did hook up he was just some bloke who I occassionaly had sex with, in work he was just the guy who's higher up than me and I never had sex with him...that may sound strange to some but it worked for me, I completely separated the two, as did he, and it maintained the professionalism. So I see no reason why I can't still look up to him and respect him in work, yet otherwise look at him as basically some dirty older man looking an ego boost by carving some notches to get these urges out of my head once and for all.
    I'm sure some people will be thinking how can I possibly respect this man, but I do, the way I see it generally people are just not the same people in work as they are outside of it, the two are separate...and I realise I have actually mixed the two myself, but keeping work and what happened between us as separate as is possible means I still respect him for what he is in work.

    And once again you probably are right with the boredom bit. When I was seeing the other guy I hardly ever thought about this, it did as I said come back into my head every now and then when I was alone at night and a bit horny on it, but I wasn't wanting to have sex with him again, my imagination was just using those damn good experiences with him to get the juices flowing (apologies, that really is tmi, but you get my point!) So probably the easiest answer would be to find myself a fella :D I am looking, but finding what I'm looking for isn't going too well, but I guess if I don't really know myself what I'm looking for I'm hardly going to find it in a hurry...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    hi op,
    i just had to reply to your post, because i felt i could have written it myself...have been in similar situation since july to january just gone. i finally put stop things end of january. cant say its been easy,again like you i just really cannot get him out of my head. ive tried other guys has not worked so far but ill just have keep trying :) but it is getting a little easier , now its just at times the awful want for him , its not as constant or as strong as it was even last week. so chin up . cant belive i done exact same thing- seeing him as 2 different people like you explained- but i think this helps because we have to do lots things at work together and its wierd how i can totally separate the two- which is lucky casue being awkward would not be an option. good luck and chin up chick. better to have loved and lost and all that sopppy stuff eh :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Marlboro82


    Oh my god it was like reading about my own life, but unfortunately I have been in this situation for 6 years.
    It was originally something that only happened every now and then usually when drink was involved but now its something that happens regularly.

    We are still v close friends, he is clearly not single (hold off on any lectures please), and its become so normal we even joke about it.
    I'd love to say that I'm gonna stop it or things will change or I'll quit my job but none of those things are realistically possible, so I hope some day it will fizzle out...

    So OP I know exactly how you feel and it ain't easy :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭John400


    James400 wrote: »
    There's plenty wrong with it.

    Reckless and threatening her employment (if not his), malicious rumour etc...

    'mood' is right.
    Exactly.

    Nail on the head.^


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Please keep replies on-topic and helpful to the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭flowerchild


    i'd love to help since you obviously feel strongly, but it's not easy since I've never experienced precisely the same experience. But when we all work together wonderful things happen.

    So, in the spirit of sisterhood, here goes:
    • accept your feelings, just notice them and let them pass - a bit like an active meditation. When we forbid ourselves to think or feel something it can get more emotional charge.
    • be amused by what you are thinking. Work it up, make it extreme - it's called 'blowing it out'. It can become so extreme that it becomes funny, again losing the 'charge'.
    • go to the movies and find a better object for your fantasies. Personally, I like King Arthur and Lancelot - all in black leather - pouting and sweaty - great physique - and in medieval times. How good is that!
    • be gentle with yourself. Swim, dance, walk, run. Find active pursuits that are fun and soak up your energy.
    • task yourself. Do at least one thing each day that is pleasurable, however you define it, and one thing each day that is satisfying. Soon you'll be smiling again. And when you smile, everything else falls into the right perspective, which is, it doesn't matter, and he doesn't matter.
    Remember you are only on this earth once, unless you are a Buddhist :cool:, so go through each day with grace and self-acceptance, and good things will follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser



    accept your feelings, just notice them and let them pass - a bit like an active meditation. When we forbid ourselves to think or feel something it can get more emotional charge.

    This. Since I made my orginal post a few days ago I've actually allowed myself to think about it properly for the first time. The past couple of months that this has been happening I pretty much forced myself to have the blinkers on about the whole situation. I really didn't allow myself to think about anything else to do with it apart from how much he could turn me on. Now that I've been thinking about it for the first time, all aspects of it - how it happened, why it happened, how I see him, the urges, how my feelings could very well develop etc etc I think I feel a lot better about it already. Thinking about other things regarding it and not just the sexy times has made those urges subside a bit already. I don't want to get ahead of myself here as I realise at the end of the day it has only been a few days like, so that's no great achievement by any means, but considering before I made my original post the temptation to send a little suggestive text or email to lead to another hook up came over me quite literally everyday, which is why I made that post I knew it was starting to go too far with me. I've not had the slightest urge to contact him at all since then, and I feel quite good about that. For the first time I'm beginning to think I can actually do this and put an end to it. I've always been one for not allowing myself to think about certain things, ignorance is bliss ya know, but this has made me realise that's definately not the best way.

    hi op,
    i just had to reply to your post, because i felt i could have written it myself...have been in similar situation since july to january just gone. i finally put stop things end of january. cant say its been easy,again like you i just really cannot get him out of my head. ive tried other guys has not worked so far but ill just have keep trying but it is getting a little easier , now its just at times the awful want for him , its not as constant or as strong as it was even last week. so chin up . cant belive i done exact same thing- seeing him as 2 different people like you explained- but i think this helps because we have to do lots things at work together and its wierd how i can totally separate the two- which is lucky casue being awkward would not be an option. good luck and chin up chick. better to have loved and lost and all that sopppy stuff eh

    Thanks, really makes me feel better when people come out of the woodwork with tales of having been in the same situation. I amazed myself at how easy it was for me to completely separate the two, I was a bit worried before it happened about there being awkwardness and that despite both being adamant it would absolutely not be. Even before the first time I seen him again after it happened I was worried about there being awkwardness, but then when I seen him in work again it really was amazingly easy, no awkwardness, no red faces, no urges to jump him, no change, business as usual simple as. I almost wish though it wasn't so easy to separate as I probably wouldn't have let it happen again.

    Oh my god it was like reading about my own life, but unfortunately I have been in this situation for 6 years.
    It was originally something that only happened every now and then usually when drink was involved but now its something that happens regularly.

    We are still v close friends, he is clearly not single (hold off on any lectures please), and its become so normal we even joke about it.
    I'd love to say that I'm gonna stop it or things will change or I'll quit my job but none of those things are realistically possible, so I hope some day it will fizzle out...

    So OP I know exactly how you feel and it ain't easy

    This is another reason why I know I have to put a stop to this sooner rather than later. Even though it has only happened a couple of times and hasn't been going on all that long, I know that the more it happens and the longer it continues, the more deeper I'm going to get myself in to it. I feel for you and I really do hope you can find a way to put an end to your situation too, mine pales in comparision to your's but I can definately relate. I never thought I would be left wanting him again, I thought it would be once then done, simple. Even after the first time I wasn't really left wanting it again, it was only when the flirting kicked off again, we started engaging in a bit of sexting and that, and we had sex for the second time that I've been left having these urges to have it again. I know the longer it goes on the worse it's going to get and the harder it will be to stop.

    It has to stop. Today I've told myself it simply can't happen again and I won't allow it to. I feel quite strong now...I just have to maintain it, which I think might me easier said than done. I'm young, I've made a mistake, but I know that and now it's time to stop and fix it. If nothing else this is a definate life lesson for me, I now know that maybe I'm not quite as good at controlling my feelings as I thought I was, and I need to bear that in mind in the future or simply not get myself into a situation like this again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Marlboro82


    OP, don't be too hard on yourself either...
    I have over the last 6 years sworn that it would end and the only time I was ever successful was when I left the country for a year. Do the best you can to stop the situation but try to take it one day at a time to try not to make it so overwhelming.

    I have stopped telling people who knew about my situation because I was mortified it kept happening after I had adamantly sworn that was the end of it.

    If someone had told me 6 yrs ago I would still be doing this I would have laughed, but trust me the time goes by really fast, the lies build up and the guilt does slowly begin to eat you.

    I haven't had a successful relationship since I started sleeping with my friend, and as much as I try to convince myself that me sleeping with him has nothing to do with it, I know deep down it is the number one reason.

    I do also somewhat believe that after all this time I can emotionally detach myself from him and whats happening but then I think about the day that he proposes to his girlfriend and how I'm going to feel that day......

    OP, you're me 6 years ago and my advice would be to do your very best to stop it, there is an awful lot of emotional crap that comes with great sex with someone you shouldn't be having sex with.

    I'm at the moment looking for international jobs and again he is one of the reasons why I'm doing this :(, I've gone so far now that this is my only way to stop it.

    Best of luck love!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Marlboro82 wrote: »
    OP, don't be too hard on yourself either...
    I have over the last 6 years sworn that it would end and the only time I was ever successful was when I left the country for a year. Do the best you can to stop the situation but try to take it one day at a time to try not to make it so overwhelming.

    One day at a time is right...just two days ago I wrote that I was feeling strong about it, the urges and want for him had sudsided and I had not a single temptation to contact him and flirt at all, well it's back today with a vengeance :( I don't know why. I just can't them thoughts out of my head today at all, I keep doing things to try and distract me from it and get me thinking on other things but it's just not happening. I think I might have to admit to myself that despite being adamant I'm not, maybe I do already have some feelings for him. I really don't think I'm in too deep or anything yet, but it's really not normal for me to think about someone as much as this just because I fancy them. Even with some past boyfriends I've never had such strong want for at times.
    I have stopped telling people who knew about my situation because I was mortified it kept happening after I had adamantly sworn that was the end of it.

    If someone had told me 6 yrs ago I would still be doing this I would have laughed, but trust me the time goes by really fast, the lies build up and the guilt does slowly begin to eat you.

    If you don't mind me asking, why did you allow to keep happening? Was there any point where you knew it had gone too far and you were in too deep? Was it just sexual urges that you couldn't supress or do you think there was more to it even in the beginning?
    I'm sorry for asking alot of questions and feel free to not answer any if you don't wish to, it's just I've not told anyone about this, primarily because I thought it was a one off at the start, but now I just don't really want to tell anyone at all for fear of any possible reprocussions there could be. So having someone who can relate here is good and I really appreciate your input so far.

    OP, you're me 6 years ago and my advice would be to do your very best to stop it, there is an awful lot of emotional crap that comes with great sex with someone you shouldn't be having sex with.

    It was great sex, and it was someone I shouldn't of been having it with, and I know rightly now I will develop unreciprocated feelings for him if it continues, but I'm really struggling to supress the sexual urges right now. I really just wish both my libido and imagination came with an off switch at times :( The both of them put together are making what should be simple incredibly hard!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Marlboro82


    Tough question OP, why did I allow it to keep happening? I wish I could answer it but I genuinely have no idea.
    I could have stopped it years ago, I should have stopped it the second it happened, but I didn't :(

    I've left the country for work and it has stopped and I have grown to hate him (Well I convinced myself I did) and then I've come home and within a matter of weeks the situation arose again.

    At the beginning it tore me up, my head was all over the place, looking back on it now it was an awful time so my heart goes out to you.

    I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he has caused me more pain than any other man, and we're not even going out :rolleyes: There have been a few girlfriends over the last few years and his ability to lead a double life still to this day confuses me.

    In the beginning it wasn't very frequent, and the morning after was a little awkward and I used to kick myself for letting it happen. We never talked about it, and his ability to act as normal used to drive me insane. I had millions of questions and thoughts in my head, like a typical woman :) and he could just switch off and act normal.

    Now, unfortunately it has become more regular, and we do talk bout it, we even joke about it. In some ways its better... I know that sounds strange but before we used to have those "it will never happen again conversations" and it would cause arguments between us, and now we don't argue.. which is nice.

    Both of us I think have come to the conclusion that it has gone too far and the only time it will really stop is when I leave the country for good this time.

    The sex may be the initial attraction but despite what you think you will develop feelings real feelings, whether you can admit them or not. Seeing him with another girl or girlfriend will be a very painful thing..trust me!

    I can't sit here and lecture you or condemn you because I'm doing the exact same thing but the one thing I'll say is.. No good will come of what you're doing, if you're willing to deal with the consequences then go for it, but if you would like a somewhat normal relationship with someone then don't settle for this. There have been times when I have felt like a whore, when he is rushing off because his girlfriend is looking for him and I'm left alone feeling like sh*t.

    It's not all glamorous amazing sex there are some serious crap times too, not sure if they make the sex worth it sometimes!

    Don't be feeling alone, best thing to do is to talk about it, might help you make sense of it all more
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ekav


    Ta for posting this thread op, its really helped me to know there are other girls out there who feel like this.
    My advice is set yourself a time limit, 3 months, 6 months, whatever u think it'll take to kick the habit of thinking about him. then take a look back & ask yourself do you feel happier now that you've moved on. Thats how it worked for me anyway, except in my case it took a year before i stopped obsessing about him. But now when i look back i'm really glad i'm not still there. I like flowerchilds advice, especially the bit about allowing yourself to think of him, i do that now whenever he pops into my head
    Good luck, hope u find something that works for you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭James400


    ekav wrote: »
    Ta for posting this thread op, its really helped me to know there are other girls out there who feel like this.
    My advice is set yourself a time limit, 3 months, 6 months, whatever u think it'll take to kick the habit of thinking about him. then take a look back & ask yourself do you feel happier now that you've moved on. Thats how it worked for me anyway, except in my case it took a year before i stopped obsessing about him.
    Except in the OP's case shes involved with/obsessing about a guy who's in her workplace/more senior than her.

    Forget about setting time-limits the OP should be forgetting about this guy automatically because this is threatening her job (if it hasn't already), she's on dangerous ground here because if work colleagues/other people see her out/with this other guy the rumour mill will start going into overdrive.

    Also, the danger is still there that work colleagues will suss she likes this guy, the ability of people at work to realise something is/was going on between people is always there.

    Also, she will earn herself a pretty bad reputation if people realise/ find out that she's been sleeping with a guy who's her senior at work.

    Why should the OP take the risk? Cut him out of her life and her thoughts is the best way forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    James400 wrote: »
    Except in the OP's case shes involved with/obsessing about a guy who's in her workplace/more senior than her.

    Forget about setting time-limits the OP should be forgetting about this guy automatically because this is threatening her job (if it hasn't already), she's on dangerous ground here because if work colleagues/other people see her out/with this other guy the rumour mill will start going into overdrive.

    Also, the danger is still there that work colleagues will suss she likes this guy, the ability of people at work to realise something is/was going on between people is always there.

    Also, she will earn herself a pretty bad reputation if people realise/ find out that she's been sleeping with a guy who's her senior at work.

    Why should the OP take the risk? Cut him out of her life and her thoughts is the best way forward.

    the op has said already that a) there are so many work rumours flyingaround that it would barely cause a ripple and b) she doesn't care anyway. So I don't see why that is even being speculated on. Plus, people are going to Suss she is thinking about someone??? Come on...

    Op, the previous suggestion was a good one about the timeframes. Set yourself realistic ones and be ruthless about them. It sounds silly but even if you said you wouldn't entertain thoughts of him for a whole week then you would see how you feel. And absolutely no flirting whatsoever. I found another thing that works is remembering how you viewed him before you were into him. That's the person he still is you've just entered a lustfilled
    haze. And then finally remind yourself of all the other people you've fancied over the years and thouht you always would ... Think right back, I bet there are some howlers in there you wouldn't touch with a bargepole now. He'll soon be on this list and you'll wonder what you were thinking!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭John400


    Katgurl wrote: »
    the op has said already that a) there are so many work rumours flyingaround that it would barely cause a ripple and b) she doesn't care anyway. So I don't see why that is even being speculated on. Plus, people are going to Suss she is thinking about someone??? Come on...
    A girl sleeping with a guy more senior than her is only going to cause a 'ripple' as regards rumours? With respect i think it's quite niave to think that way..it would cause more than a ripple in work for sure.

    Also as regards colleagues sussing something is going on, they are obviously not going to know what she's thinking about...but, believe me they can suss something may have happened previously/currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Marlboro82


    Things improved OP?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Marlboro82 wrote: »
    Things improved OP?
    It is up to the op to choose to reply, so please dont ask for updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi again folks, have been meaning to get back on here the past few days but been busy...which has probably helped me out a bit! Well, it's still there unfortunately I can't deny, but it hasn't been that same intense want that it was. It's strange because it'll be fine for days and he'll hardly even cross my mind, and then from nowhere that incredible want and urge for him will come over me for the whole day and I'm having to pretty much actively stop myself from initiating anything.
    Marlboro82 wrote: »
    In the beginning it wasn't very frequent, and the morning after was a little awkward and I used to kick myself for letting it happen. We never talked about it, and his ability to act as normal used to drive me insane. I had millions of questions and thoughts in my head, like a typical woman :) and he could just switch off and act normal.

    See that's me too, I'm a thinker...overthinker probably. Whilst we have talked about it, it was only ever really when we hooked up, and ofcourse when the drinks are flowing you never get out everything you want to and my big list of carefully thought out questions for the most part went out the window. And because it of it being infrequent like it has we haven't really talked about it that much in the cold light of day. I would love to sit down properly, no drinks, no time constraints, complete peace and talk it over fully face to face with him, but I really don't want to at the same time. I'd be pretty much 100% certain that I'm wanting it more than him, so I want to atleast appear completely cool with it and that it isn't playing in my head as much as it is, I fear if I was to ask for "the talk" as such it could send things a little bit weird. Whilst I may be good myself at switching off when I need to like in work, he is 10 times better at it and it almost seems like the easiest option is to just leave things hanging as they are...
    Don't be feeling alone, best thing to do is to talk about it, might help you make sense of it all more
    :D

    ...which is why this is helping me so much. I'm a very private person, always have been and I always keep things to myself, but I knew I had to talk about this somehow because if I didn't I would've just kept them blinkers on and continued with it until I really did get in too deep. I still don't want to tell anybody I know about it, I really do just want to keep this private because I know it's stupid and quite out of character for me. I definately don't want to talk about it with him, that would definately be the wrong move, the only thing I want to talk about with him is when I tell him it can never happen again. I have no worries about that and how it will effect anything because it wont, that was already agreed that obviously it will end completely at some point and when it does then we just carry on as normal, like we are now, and like we did before. What I worry about is that if I do take that step and say "never again" and that's that, that it might just end up making me want him more you know?
    Ta for posting this thread op, its really helped me to know there are other girls out there who feel like this.
    My advice is set yourself a time limit, 3 months, 6 months, whatever u think it'll take to kick the habit of thinking about him. then take a look back & ask yourself do you feel happier now that you've moved on. Thats how it worked for me anyway, except in my case it took a year before i stopped obsessing about him. But now when i look back i'm really glad i'm not still there. I like flowerchilds advice, especially the bit about allowing yourself to think of him, i do that now whenever he pops into my head
    Good luck, hope u find something that works for you

    :) Really does bring a little smile to my face every time another "been there, done that" emerges! Feels like a little support group! I like the time limit thing, works nicely with the advice about allowing myself to think about him. The only thing is I had set myself a time limit for this in the beginning, which was ONCE...and I passed that pretty damn quickly :( (I think I said previously it only happened twice, it's actually 3 times...) So I can see myself doing the same with that. I know I will look back at this in the future and probably laugh at myself for it, I just wish I could skip forward and be there now!
    I found another thing that works is remembering how you viewed him before you were into him. That's the person he still is you've just entered a lustfilled
    haze. And then finally remind yourself of all the other people you've fancied over the years and thouht you always would ... Think right back, I bet there are some howlers in there you wouldn't touch with a bargepole now. He'll soon be on this list and you'll wonder what you were thinking!

    Oh there's some howlers alright :D Like I said above, I know I'll look back and just laugh at myself for this one day! I've always sort of thought I fancied him a bit, but I think it was more so his qualities I was attracted to rather than his physical looks. I'm not one for having types, I've a very eclectic taste when it comes to men, but I don't think even the people who know me best would ever pick him out as someone I would go for. He's not unattractive, but he's not the typical someone you would imagine a 20 something year old going for. He's outgoing, confident, charming, funny, witty & successful...those things attract me more than physical qualities any day. There are some things I do dislike about him, but I seem to have pushed those to the back of my mind, so I think I need to remind myself of them again and try to concentrate on them rather than concentrating on him in the sack.
    A girl sleeping with a guy more senior than her is only going to cause a 'ripple' as regards rumours? With respect i think it's quite niave to think that way..it would cause more than a ripple in work for sure.

    Also as regards colleagues sussing something is going on, they are obviously not going to know what she's thinking about...but, believe me they can suss something may have happened previously/currently.

    In all seriousness, and I know this will be hard for some to imagine, but even if I was to come out with it straight up and say I slept with him, a ripple it would be at most. There have been much bigger and badder rumours/confirmed goings on and it quite literally doesn't phase anybody there, it's just the culture of the place. And it goes pretty much right to the top of the ladder (which explains it all really...) That aspect of it really doesn't concern me.


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