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Removing a DCC clamp

  • 18-02-2011 4:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭


    anybody know what the consequences of doing this are both by the book and anecdotally..?

    basically I have been clamped, but the clamp is lose and I think I can drive out with no damage to either car or clamp

    do DCC follow up on vehicles that have been clamped and no payment made to remove the clamp after a certain period of time?

    If I removed the clamp and just put it in my shed, would they come looking for it after a certain period of time?

    Also, does the DCC parking department and the dept of transport (that manage car ownership / registration) have any level of communication?

    I just bought the car and the log / ownership book had been sent to Dept of Transport, so the car may not have been in my name when the offence occurred.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Someone on here has a success story about removing a clamp that wasn't attached correctly. The clamp was returned to dcc anyway. Does anyone remember that story or the gist? :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    deepriver wrote: »
    anybody know what the consequences of doing this are both by the book and anecdotally..?

    basically I have been clamped, but the clamp is lose and I think I can drive out with no damage to either car or clamp

    do DCC follow up on vehicles that have been clamped and no payment made to remove the clamp after a certain period of time?

    If I removed the clamp and just put it in my shed, would they come looking for it after a certain period of time?

    Also, does the DCC parking department and the dept of transport (that manage car ownership / registration) have any level of communication?

    I just bought the car and the log / ownership book had been sent to Dept of Transport, so the car may not have been in my name when the offence occurred.

    DCC have the full backing of the courts to pursue you and they definitely will as the will win. The councils are tight on money as it is and they love getting more out of people. I think challenging it will cost you more.

    Just pay the fine. youve obviously parked somewhere you shouldnt have on a public street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭deepriver


    listermint wrote: »
    DCC have the full backing of the courts to pursue you and they definitely will as the will win. The councils are tight on money as it is and they love getting more out of people. I think challenging it will cost you more.

    Just pay the fine. youve obviously parked somewhere you shouldnt have on a public street.

    it was tempting, but I just paid the fine.

    It was actually on my street, outside my house. I just bought a new car and was transferring the parking disc from my old car, which takes a couple of weeks.

    I think the bigger issue is that DCC have no process in place to let legitimate disc holders park while the disc is being transferred to a new car.

    I found out after I got clamped, you can take the disc down to the Wood Quay offices and they will photocopy it and stamp the copy, so it can be displayed in the interim period.

    However the DCC website makes no reference to this process, so either their communication is poor, they dont give a **** about the people getting clamped while transferring a disc or the photocopied / stamped process may or may not work.

    all in all **** DCC and the clampers for ruining my day. I dont see why there is paid parking on a residential street 3 kms from the city centre anyway and why DCC can tell me a homeowner where I can and cant park

    the ***** even forgot to put the notice of clamping on the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    deepriver wrote: »
    It was actually on my street, outside my house. I just bought a new car and was transferring the parking disc from my old car, which takes a couple of weeks.

    I think the bigger issue is that DCC have no process in place to let legitimate disc holders park while the disc is being transferred to a new car.

    I found out after I got clamped, you can take the disc down to the Wood Quay offices and they will photocopy it and stamp the copy, so it can be displayed in the interim period.

    However the DCC website makes no reference to this process, so either their communication is poor, they dont give a **** about the people getting clamped while transferring a disc or the photocopied / stamped process may or may not work.

    all in all **** DCC and the clampers for ruining my day. I dont see why there is paid parking on a residential street 3 kms from the city centre anyway and why DCC can tell me a homeowner where I can and cant park

    the ***** even forgot to put the notice of clamping on the car

    ...in which case, imho, you were screwed. You are a legit resident, with a permit to park - it's there bureacracy that's at fault. I wouldn't have paid it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭deepriver


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...in which case, imho, you were screwed. You are a legit resident, with a permit to park - it's there bureacracy that's at fault. I wouldn't have paid it.

    yea but if they take it off, they will do you. Maybe appeal it, but you are appealing to the clamping company, which is a seperate commercial entity to DCC and I doubt they give a flying ****


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...in which case, imho, you were screwed. You are a legit resident, with a permit to park - it's there bureacracy that's at fault. I wouldn't have paid it.
    deepriver wrote: »
    yea but if they take it off, they will do you. Maybe appeal it, but you are appealing to the clamping company, which is a seperate commercial entity to DCC and I doubt they give a flying ****

    +1
    you are appealing to a clamping company sub contracted by DCC, its like getting a fine for non display of tax disc, you can scream all you want that you have tax on the car its just at home, but the fact you didnt display it is what your getting done for.

    OP, maybe try contact the dept in DCC/appeal dept and explain your case, they may give permission for a refund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I wonder how it'd work if you displayed the old disc with a cover note in the windscreen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    deepriver wrote: »
    it was tempting, but I just paid the fine.

    It was actually on my street, outside my house. I just bought a new car and was transferring the parking disc from my old car, which takes a couple of weeks.

    I think the bigger issue is that DCC have no process in place to let legitimate disc holders park while the disc is being transferred to a new car.

    I found out after I got clamped, you can take the disc down to the Wood Quay offices and they will photocopy it and stamp the copy, so it can be displayed in the interim period.

    However the DCC website makes no reference to this process, so either their communication is poor, they dont give a **** about the people getting clamped while transferring a disc or the photocopied / stamped process may or may not work.

    all in all **** DCC and the clampers for ruining my day. I dont see why there is paid parking on a residential street 3 kms from the city centre anyway and why DCC can tell me a homeowner where I can and cant park

    the ***** even forgot to put the notice of clamping on the car

    Yes, it's poor that there's little published info for permit holders, but you could have enquired with DCC in advance when you were thinking of changing instead of waiting until the car was clamped outside. It seems to me that the permit was a bit of an after-thought.

    I'm sure that if DCC didn't control parking then residents would be complaining they can't find a parking space on their own street or they have to pay meters or discs.
    Anan1 wrote: »
    I wonder how it'd work if you displayed the old disc with a cover note in the windscreen?
    I doubt it would work, as it's an unauthorised transfer to another car. A clamper might use his discretion but he could equally think you're just trying to pull a fast one.

    Getting it officially stamped by the CC means it's an authorised transfer and the permit is valid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    I doubt it would work, as it's an unauthorised transfer to another car. A clamper might use his discretion but he could equally think you're just trying to pull a fast one.

    Getting it officially stamped by the CC means it's an authorised transfer and the permit is valid.
    I wouldn't have too much confidence either, but I do think it'd help with any subsequent appeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭deepriver


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Yes, it's poor that there's little published info for permit holders, but you could have enquired with DCC in advance when you were thinking of changing instead of waiting until the car was clamped outside. It seems to me that the permit was a bit of an after-thought.

    I'm sure that if DCC didn't control parking then residents would be complaining they can't find a parking space on their own street or they have to pay meters or discs.


    I doubt it would work, as it's an unauthorised transfer to another car. A clamper might use his discretion but he could equally think you're just trying to pull a fast one.

    Getting it officially stamped by the CC means it's an authorised transfer and the permit is valid.

    I think discretion is a key word, I put a utility bill with my address and a note in the window. I noticed other people on the road were doing it and assumed it was accepted practise. I did check the DCC website before I was clamped and couldnt find any reference to a temporary solution, so reluctantly had to take my chances.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    I doubt it would work, as it's an unauthorised transfer to another car. A clamper might use his discretion but he could equally think you're just trying to pull a fast one.

    Getting it officially stamped by the CC means it's an authorised transfer and the permit is valid.

    It would still be better to try than to just park with no disc.


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