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What if............

  • 17-02-2011 9:49pm
    #1
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭


    I refuse to pay the new social charge that's being imposed on me by the government to pay for bailing out the banks, surely if threatened with prison it would be an infringement of my human rights as I didn't incur the cost in any shape or form and owe neither the government or the banks anything. Would it be worth a test case in the EU? It might put an end to this ludicrous tax.


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  • #2
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Let us know how you get on.


  • #3
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    But then how would we pay for all the doctors, nurses and guards.......:rolleyes:



    *sarcasm


  • #4
    Dr_Phil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Let us know how you get on.
    ...in Mountjoy..


  • #5
    Ghost Estate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Ghost Estate


    We won't. A few people will go on Doe Juffy and complain about it, think they done a great job and surrender to being shafted more by the Government.


  • #6
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Ali Babba wrote: »
    I refuse to pay the new social charge that's being imposed on me by the government to pay for bailing out the banks, surely if threatened with prison it would be an infringement of my human rights as I didn't incur the cost in any shape or form and owe neither the government or the banks anything. Would it be worth a test case in the EU? It might put an end to this ludicrous tax.

    It surely would. Go for it.


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  • #7
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    Dr_Phil wrote: »
    ...in Mountjoy..

    It wouldn't be any harder than trying to make ends meet outside anyway and I've a load of medical problems I need fixing and can't afford the time or the money to get them fixed, after all, prisoners get preferential medical attention too.


  • #8
    rannerap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    doesnt it just come straight out of your wages though? I dont see how you can not give it,you have to give it whether you like it or not!


  • #9
    Jimmy the Wheel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Jimmy the Wheel


    That sounds like Freeman talk there, pilgrim.

    There's a thread on it in the 'Conspiracy Theories' forum, or check out Tirnasaor.com (edit; for balance there's another thread in 'Legal Discussion' entitled 'Judicial Oath, where the solicitors aren't having a bar of it)

    Though strictly speaking, I think freemen give up their benefits also.


  • #10
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    I'm self-employed so I have to pay it at the end of the year.


  • #11
    dubtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    How do you intend to avoid paying it OP,are you self employed,do your own tax returns? If not it's damn near impossible if your taxed at source. I'm fairly certain your boss won't withhold it from Mr Taxman.


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  • #12
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    .... god was one of us?


  • #13
    Ghost Estate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Ghost Estate


    bonerm wrote: »
    .... god was one of us?

    I prefer the Weird Al version: What if God smoked Cannibus?


  • #14
    bmarley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭bmarley


    Sure we'll be getting it all back soon, I just look at it as an investment...when the new government comes in:)


  • #15
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    bonerm wrote: »
    .... god was one of us?

    ...just a slob like one of us...


  • #16
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    ...just a slob like one of us...
    ...just a stranger on a bus...


  • #17
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    ...tryin to make his way home...


  • #18
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    F**kers........ye'r killing my thread!!!!


  • #19
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...tryin to make his way home...

    ...Back up to heaven all alone...


  • #20
    bad2dabone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...Back up to heaven all alone...

    ....taking viagra to get a bone...


  • #21
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    bad2dabone wrote: »
    ....taking viagra to get a bone...

    wrong!!!

    ...Nobody calling on the phone...


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  • #22
    senordingdong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I doubht you could get away with it, not with the amount of resources the state uses to make sure everyone is paying.


  • #23
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    wrong!!!

    ...Nobody calling on the phone...

    ... except for the pope maybe in Rome...


  • #24
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    bonerm wrote: »
    ... except for the pope maybe in Rome...

    ...And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah...


  • #25
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah...

    What if ....


  • #26
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    bonerm wrote: »
    What if ....

    I refuse to pay the new social charge that's being imposed on me by the government to pay for bailing out the banks, surely if threatened with prison it would be an infringement of my human rights as I didn't incur the cost in any shape or form and owe neither the government or the banks anything. Would it be worth a test case in the EU? It might put an end to this ludicrous tax.


  • #27
    seanybiker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Bloody song is stuck in me head now.


  • #28
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    I refuse to pay the new social charge that's being imposed on me by the government to pay for bailing out the banks, surely if threatened with prison it would be an infringement of my human rights as I didn't incur the cost in any shape or form and owe neither the government or the banks anything. Would it be worth a test case in the EU? It might put an end to this ludicrous tax.

    F**kers........ye'r killing my thread!!!!


  • #29
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Bloody song is stuck in me head now.

    maybe this will help

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4CRkpBGQzU


  • #30
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    bonerm wrote: »
    F**kers........ye'r killing my thread!!!!

    ...Killing me softly with his song...


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  • #31
    Captain_Generic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    maybe this will help

    I honestly didn't remember her looking so hideous


  • #32
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...Killing me softly with his song...


    ...killing me softly, with his song...


  • #33
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...killing me softly, with his song...

    ...telling my whole life, with his words...


  • #34
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...killing me softly, with his song...

    ...I heard he sang a good song, I heard he had a style...


  • #35
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    ...telling my whole life, with his words...

    ...killing me softly...


  • #36
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Ali Babba wrote: »
    I refuse to pay the new social charge that's being imposed on me by the government to pay for bailing out the banks, surely if threatened with prison it would be an infringement of my human rights as I didn't incur the cost in any shape or form and owe neither the government or the banks anything. Would it be worth a test case in the EU? It might put an end to this ludicrous tax.

    Can I not get out of all taxes so by showing I dotn use the thigns they pay for? :rolleyes:


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  • #37
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...I heard he sang a good song, I heard he had a style...


    ...and so I came to see him to listen for while...


  • #38
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...and so I came to see him to listen for while...

    ...And there he was this young boy, stranger to my eyes...


  • #39
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Captain_Generic wrote: »
    I honestly didn't remember her looking so hideous

    It's genetic for dem Osbournes I guess, but luckily for Joan she .....


  • #40
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Ali Babba wrote: »
    I'm self-employed so I have to pay it at the end of the year.

    Find out how much it is and cook the books for that amount in tax that you won't pay. Pretty fukking easily done if you are self employed.


  • #41
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...And there he was this young boy, stranger to my eyes...


    ...stromin my pain with his fingers...


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  • #42
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...stromin my pain with his fingers...

    ...one time one time...


  • #43
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...one time one time...


    ...killing my life with his words...


  • #44
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    strobe wrote: »
    Find out how much it is and cook the books for that amount in tax that you won't pay. Pretty fukking easily done if you are self employed.

    Yeah right..........maybe if you're turning millions but not as a one man operation.

    I find it hard to believe how willing people are to pay for the sins of others, I suppose that's why we're in the state we're in now, nobodies willing to make a stand.


  • #45
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...killing my life with his words...

    ...two times two times...


  • #46
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...two times two times...


    ...killing me softly with his words...


  • #47
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...killing me softly with his words...

    ...Killing me softly....with his song...


  • #48
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...Killing me softly....with his song...


    ...I felt all flushed with fever...


  • #49
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    ...I felt all flushed with fever...

    ...Embarrassed by the crowd...


  • #50
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    ...Embarrassed by the crowd...


    ...and so I came to see him to listen for a while...


    I'd say we should give it up now, the poor OP, & I'm off to you tube to listen to Killing Me Softly!


  • #51
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Ali Babba wrote: »
    Yeah right..........maybe if you're turning millions but not as a one man operation.

    I find it hard to believe how willing people are to pay for the sins of others, I suppose that's why we're in the state we're in now, nobodies willing to make a stand.

    Only if you are a one man operation. I guess it depends what you do though. Can you not just do jobs for x cash in hand and not declare it?

    x = the cost of the social charge.


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