Gun choice for fox's

podge.243

Mine is a .243 usein 80gr stops them in there track's:D. Have some piceture's will post them when i get a chance. Im new to this so im still learning:o

mad sca

What distance are you shooting these foxes out to?

fallowbuck

you really cant go wrong with the 243 for foxes at any distance once you feel safe and confident enough with the shot i use the 243 for foxes and fallow sika:)

bunny shooter

I currently use .204 Ruger and won't be changing.

Have previously used .22 WMR, .22 Hornet, .17 Rem., .223 & .220 Swift

tfox

6.5 140gr splits them in 2 cant remember when last time was I shot one with the .223, must change it for something :rolleyes:

Shoot2kill

Last year i was using a remington .223 but i was never 100% confident with it on the long shots so i often found myself letting foxes go, just so as not to be creating more lamp shy foxes, have enough of them f#@kers around the place..

But this year i traded up to a savage .243, firing 100gr winchesters for both fox and deer. Stops them both in there tracks fairly rapid and i even managed a 304yd shot 2 weeks ago. well happy!!!

zeissman

I have used 22lr 22wmr 22hornet 220swift and 243.
Using a 204 now for the last 5 years and cant see myself changing.

bunny shooter

zeissman wrote: »

I have used 22lr 22wmr 22hornet 220swift and 243.
Using a 204 now for the last 5 years and cant see myself changing.

Another .204 fan

Interesting...............Why would you choose .204 over .243?

Monty Burnz

I thought this was going to be a thread about arming foxes.

bunny shooter

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I thought this was going to be a thread about arming foxes.

Brilliant !!!!!!

zeissman

bunny shooter wrote: »

Another .204 fan

Interesting...............Why would you choose .204 over .243?

243 is good but I think its a bit overkill for foxes.
With the 204 there is no recoil or muzzle flip so you can see your hits through the scope.

bunny shooter

zeissman wrote: »

243 is good but I think its a bit overkill for foxes.

I reckon so too but depends on location.

zeissman wrote: »

With the 204 there is no recoil or muzzle flip so you can see your hits through the scope.

+1

podge.243

im usein winchester 80gr sp and i find them really good. my shots range out to 300yrds on fox's it will go more but thats what im comfortable with.

12gauge dave

ive a friend with a 22 swift and destroys foxes up to 300yards+ i know i shouldnt say but he has a deer liscence now but back in the start has even dropped a 22pointer red stag at over 150-200yards straight drop with solid tips i think! people dont realise the power in the swift compared to the 223 in my opinion! my local gun dealer said that the swift might be put into the deer rifle categorey soon

It wasn't me!

12gauge dave wrote: »

ive a friend with a 22 swift and destroys foxes up to 300yards+ i know i shouldnt say but he has a deer liscence now but back in the start has even dropped a 22pointer red stag at over 150-200yards straight drop with solid tips i think! people dont realise the power in the swift compared to the 223 in my opinion! my local gun dealer said that the swift might be put into the deer rifle categorey soon

Not to re-open this very delicious can of worms, but a .220 Swift is deer-legal, the same way a .22-250 is (and by that I mean that some lads might be very uncomfortable if confronted with a chronograph).

12gauge dave

i didnt know the swift was deer legal are:eek:

bunny shooter

12gauge dave wrote: »

i didnt know the swift was deer legal are:eek:

Hers's one of those cans IWM referred to

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055754204&highlight=swift+deer+legal

podge.243

12gauge dave wrote: »

i didnt know the swift was deer legal are:eek:

either did i ha.Shur i had a CZ 22.250 i wasnt allowed it for fox's the super told me that it was to powerful for fox's and that id have to apply for a deer licence so i sold the 22.250 and went for a tikka t3 .243 and now i have my deer licence it was a great move its a lovely gun.

12gauge dave

swifts are a great gun shame about 2euro a bullet:mad::mad::mad:

podge.243

12gauge dave wrote: »

swifts are a great gun shame about 2euro a bullet:mad::mad::mad:

ye it's a pittty. Ye would'nt want to be missin much at that price. Bullets for my .243 work out at 1.22 a shot not as bad as 2 euro a pop

tomcat220t

Had a .223 and now use a .204 and wont be changing .

The Big Fella

.223 is a great foxing round lads sure why do you think robert bucknell uses one.:rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

Why is the cost of ammunition so high in Ireland? Sorry if O/T, but I can't imagine it costs a quarter of what it costs here in the US.

monte

The Big Fella wrote: »

.223 is a great foxing round lads sure why do you think robert bucknell uses one.:rolleyes:
And pat the warrener

12gauge dave

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Why is the cost of ammunition so high in Ireland? Sorry if O/T, but I can't imagine it costs a quarter of what it costs here in the US.

it makes me sick thinkng of the price of things from guns to scopes to silencers everything mad dear here:mad: someones making money somwhere and its nor fcuking me or you as a man says:pac:

Monty Burnz

I 'm just wondering if import duty is sky high, or just that there is no competition in importing the ammo and equipment? (is the ammo is as expensive elsewhere in Europe?)

The Big Fella

Slightley off topic lads but how can a 53grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/223-Rem-53-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/ be nearly as flat shooting as a light .204 24grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-24-gr-NTX/. I know what caliber id us on a fox at 500 yards twice the weight of the .204. Id be guessing the .204 wouldnt penentrate at all.

bunny shooter

The Big Fella wrote: »

.223 is a great foxing round lads sure why do you think robert bucknell uses one.:rolleyes:

Who Sure what does he know wrote a few books and done a few visdeos, could do that myself

The Big Fella wrote: »

And pat the warrener

Who Sure what does he know wrote a few books and done a few videos, could do that myself

The Big Fella wrote: »

Slightley off topic lads but how can a 53grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/223-Rem-53-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/ be nearly as flat shooting as a light .204 24grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-24-gr-NTX/. I know what caliber id us on a fox at 500 yards twice the weight of the .204. Id be guessing the .204 wouldnt penentrate at all.

Fired or seen many .204 rounds fired have you :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

I'll say no more :P

The Big Fella

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

I'll say no more :P[/QUOTE]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCJxQqkgGf0&feature=related We'll have to leave it there.:pac:

zeissman

The Big Fella wrote: »

Slightley off topic lads but how can a 53grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/223-Rem-53-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/ be nearly as flat shooting as a light .204 24grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-24-gr-NTX/. I know what caliber id us on a fox at 500 yards twice the weight of the .204. Id be guessing the .204 wouldnt penentrate at all.

Never used 24 grain bullets but I can tell you the 39 and 40 grain are deadly on foxes at long range.
The 204 will have a similar trajectory to the 220 swift and 22-250 with less recoil, noise and muzzle flip.

tomcat220t

The Big Fella wrote: »

Slightley off topic lads but how can a 53grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/223-Rem-53-gr-V-MAX-Superformance/ be nearly as flat shooting as a light .204 24grainer http://www.hornady.com/store/204-Ruger-24-gr-NTX/. I know what caliber id us on a fox at 500 yards twice the weight of the .204. Id be guessing the .204 wouldnt penentrate at all.

How many foxes past 400 yards have you knocked with a .223 ?Not trying to get into anything but the .204 39gr SBK with the right setup will do the job out to 500 yards .;)

bunny shooter

zeissman wrote: »

............. We'll have to leave it there.:pac:

As I said

bunny shooter wrote: »

I'll say no more :P

minktrapper

How about the .17 HMR.What kind of range has it on foxs.

session savage

.17 HMR is grand unless someone a mile away to your right farts and throws it off by a country mile.

Dont have as much experience as a lot of the lads on here but I LOVE my .223

TM RACING

I have a deer licence on a swift. Rang the npws and explained how it was up to the job and e-mailed them a hornady ballistics chart showing that a 60gr exceeds the min 1700ft/lbs muzzle energy requirement. There was no problems what so ever, they were more than happy to give me the licence. But dont get me wrong, I know what the swift is and is not capable of. It is ALWAYS head or neck shots and it knocks them every time. I belive bullet placement is more important than bullet power (within reason).

kieran1141

have a remmie vls 223 heavy barrel for foxes and remmie bdl 243 for deer, most accurate gun i ever had was a ruger 220 swift, but have shot a lot of foxes over 300 yards with 223 even 1 at 410 yards and that useing american eagle f.b.h.p cheap ammo, mabey the heavy barrel helps, dont bother with 223 anymore, must get myself a 308.

sikastag

With more and more lads using moderators would recoil & muzzle flip really be an issue? In fairness quarry can be seen dropping in calibres a lot larger than the above mentioned with the use of a moderator and recoil is definetely reduced also. Each to his own I think, personally use a .222 Rem. Normally 40gr. Would be sticking with the lighter end of the scale regards bullets and calibres though. Unless the right bullet is used with larger cals, often found that it will pass through a small target without expanding sufficently and result in animal running. Would still dispatch animal cleanly and humanely and dead is dead. The right bullets in larger cals can do some exceptional damage! Wouldnt be overly entusiastic about vaporising something either, I know meat damage isnt that important with foxes, just my own personal preference.

bunny shooter

TM RACING wrote: »

I have a deer licence on a swift........

Wait for it ............................ someone will now tell you you can't :rolleyes:

Tackleberrywho

TM RACING wrote: »

I have a deer licence on a swift. Rang the npws and explained how it was up to the job and e-mailed them a hornady ballistics chart showing that a 60gr exceeds the min 1700ft/lbs muzzle energy requirement. There was no problems what so ever, they were more than happy to give me the licence. But dont get me wrong, I know what the swift is and is not capable of. It is ALWAYS head or neck shots and it knocks them every time. I belive bullet placement is more important than bullet power (within reason).

Does that mean a swift will be considered a Deer Hunting Calibre now and be harder to licence for Foxes :eek:

Where is that can of worms;)

zeissman

Mate of mine also got a deer hunting licence on a swift last september.

Commish

sikastag wrote: »

With more and more lads using moderators would recoil & muzzle flip really be an issue? In fairness quarry can be seen dropping in calibres a lot larger than the above mentioned with the use of a moderator and recoil is definetely reduced also. Each to his own I think, personally use a .222 Rem. Normally 40gr. Would be sticking with the lighter end of the scale regards bullets and calibres though. Unless the right bullet is used with larger cals, often found that it will pass through a small target without expanding sufficently and result in animal running. Would still dispatch animal cleanly and humanely and dead is dead. The right bullets in larger cals can do some exceptional damage! Wouldnt be overly entusiastic about vaporising something either, I know meat damage isnt that important with foxes, just my own personal preference.

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