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is teaching council likely to be abolished

  • 16-02-2011 10:50am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭


    I'm about to apply to the Teaching Council to have 3 subjects assessed at a cost of €400. As this is money I don't really have I just thought I'd get some opinions before I sign the cheque...
    1. Do schools care whether the TC has approved your subjects? Could i just get 1 subject registered and then still get jobs in the others based on my qualifications?
    2. Given our tendency to follow England with a few years delay...how certain is the future of the teaching council. I'd hate to pay this money plus registration fees only for the TC to get abolished 2 or 3 years down the line


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    roe_cat wrote: »
    I'm about to apply to the Teaching Council to have 3 subjects assessed at a cost of €400. As this is money I don't really have I just thought I'd get some opinions before I sign the cheque...
    1. Do schools care whether the TC has approved your subjects? Could i just get 1 subject registered and then still get jobs in the others based on my qualifications?
    2. Given our tendency to follow England with a few years delay...how certain is the future of the teaching council. I'd hate to pay this money plus registration fees only for the TC to get abolished 2 or 3 years down the line

    Well yes and considering that there aren't many jobs out there at the moment, if you go to an interview and say that you have a TC recognised Maths qualification and you've also studied Geography but it's not recognised, why would they hire you for a Maths and Geography job when there could be plenty of other people applying who are qualified in both?

    You might hate to pay it but none of us know how long the TC is going to be around for. If you're the only one not registered why would a school hire you ahead of a registered teacher?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭E.T.


    I doubt it'll be abolished - it's teachers and applicants who are funding it (and it's ineptitude unfortunately)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭roe_cat


    Sorry - should have pointed out that I haven't done the PGDE yet - trying to get things sorted out in advance but just hated the thought of it already being worthless by the time I actually started looking for teaching jobs.
    Thanks for the replies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭mick kk


    I'm afraid they will certainly be around for the long haul - they are recession proof you see because us teachers pay them 90 squid a year and newly qualified graduates, many of whom will eventually be forced to emigrate, pay them the equivalent of the air fare to Australia for names to be put on a list........but ...every now and then they do a survey that costs a fortune....and the survey will find that people think teachers do a good job...so its worth every penny if you are paranoid about what people think about you..as well as that they will take your money and give a chunk of it to 20-30 teachers per annum who want to do a course like a masters or a phd even...and a picture will appear of the recipients and an article about how the teaching council is supporting CPD with your money that you can't afford...and teachers will take a bashing in the next four budgets along with everyone else and the TC won't say a word about it...i could go on all night..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭sitstill


    I emailed the Minister of Education twice over the summer asking her were there any plans to abolish the Teaching Council following the decision in England. However, I have still not received a reply.

    As has been mentioned, the organisation is self-financing through the fees it charges teachers so its unlikely to be one of the quangos that FG gets rid of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭FerrisBueller


    Unfortunately it seems like they're going to be around for the long haul if my lecturer (who's on the TC) has anything to do with it. They've got a fair few plans in place for the next few years, extending the PGDE to 2 years, Primary Teaching undergrad for 4 years and loads of other things. Biggest waste of €90 going, very old fashioned as well. To be honest if you pay the €400 to get your subjects checked, don't expect it to be the only money you'll be paying.

    They're being very strict on approving courses, a prime example being the Modern Languages with Concurrent Teacher Education course in UL at the moment, supposed to graduate in August to be qualified in two languages and they still won't give the approval because apparently doing a work placement abroad in a country where the langauge is spoken is not seen as beneficial but rote learning pointless complex literature which will never be used is.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    If the source of their money stopped, would they be funded by Revenue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭2011abc


    I think its high time we put the cessation of its 'funding' on a more organised footing ...Its as plain as the nose on your face this lot are doing the profession LOTS of harm (with a heck of a lot more to come ) and little or no good whatsoever ...They already extort thousands from newly qualified teachers and theyre coming for us next ... teacher funded 'in service training' (probably provided by some of the cronies mentioned above)during holiday time is looming .Of course we get the typical 'bad principal' style 'consultative process' before telling us what's actually happening that they had planned all along .And they WILL get around to firing all those 'underperforming ' teachers we hear so much about who may 'anecdotally' amount to 50% or more of the current workforce ...:rolleyes: Is it in China where they make you work to pay for your own execution bullet?


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