Proving you are not an Irish resident

Break all ties

If an Irish born person leaves Ireland for a distant EU state and then returns on holidays how does he prove to Gardaí that he is not an irish resident?
Would a police registration card from the foreign country suffice?

acme4242

Don't know about the Gardai,
But the Irish tax office require confirmation
from the tax office in the country of your residence.
that you are tax resident there.

This is when you claim non-residence. e.g. if you claim back Irish dirt tax etc.
If its good enough for the Irish tax office, it should be good enough for the Gardai.

Oh, and in Dublin airport you need to show resident permit and return boarding card
for non-EU country, if you claim tax-free and tourist, and your Irish.

Break all ties

Not talking for tax purposes.

Say I want to take my EU registered car with me on holidays, how do I prove to some Garda that I am not living in the state?

Victor

Is this for something like a summons that you missed? (No need to specifically answer).

i imagine they will look for more, e.g. a bank statement showing where you took out money, utility bills, pay slips, etc.

Break all ties

Nothing to do with summonses etc.

I am an Irish Citizen, and I decided to go live somewhere else in the EU. I am lawfully resident in that state and I have registered with the police and I have my residency card. I have a vehicle registered in that state.

My query is if I take my vehicle to Ireland on holidays with no intention of staying in Ireland how do I convince the Gardaí that I am not resident in Ireland. Would my registration papers and residency card be enough proof?

seamus

Break all ties wrote: »

Would my registration papers and residency card be enough proof?

They should be. A recently-dated bank statement would also be very useful to show that you haven't moved back with your EU-registered vehicle. Also your return ferry ticket would be useful.

I don't think there's anything which will qualify definitively as proof, it's up to the person dealing with you. If you come to hassle, you will have to convince customs/revenue that you're legit, moreso than the Gardai. Simple things such as recent bank statements and a return ferry ticket should be enough for the Gardai to send you on your way.

Residency cards, registration papers, insurance certifications, recent statements, work payslips, etc - you'd really want as much information as possible to help you if Revenue aren't convinced. If you do end up dealing with revenue on the matter, they can check their own information and confirm that you've neither been employed nor unemployed in this state for a couple of years.

I wouldn't give it a huge amount of concern tbh.

Victor

Break all ties wrote: »

Would my registration papers and residency card be enough proof?

I can't answer for the Garda, but possibly not as your residency card presumably only states a matter of affairs at a certain date, which might be months or years ago.

alejandro1977

seamus wrote: »

I wouldn't give it a huge amount of concern tbh.

there was a case of an Irishman living in Andorra getting his Porsche impounded by Gardai (claimed he owed VRT) - he was legally resident in Andorra and successfully sued

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055571584

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/tycoon-gets-836415000-over-car-seizure-by-gardai-1748809.html

PCPhoto

just to throw it out there - he only took the case because it was about sticking two fingers up at the gardai for abusing their powers, it wasn't about the money..... which is why he made sure it went to court and made sure it was reported...he refused settlement offers.

Very nice guy to talk to - wife was very good looking.

Ps. I was in court for that case.

Delancey

PCPhoto wrote: »

Very nice guy to talk to - wife was very good looking.

Ps. I was in court for that case.

Hmmm , 67 years old with a 24 year old girlfriend......fair play to him

seamus

alejandro1977 wrote: »

there was a case of an Irishman living in Andorra getting his Porsche impounded by Gardai (claimed he owed VRT) - he was legally resident in Andorra and successfully sued

I think the consensus at the time was that he was unlucky enough to have been spotted by a couple of pricks who fancied a spin in his car and/or wanted to "do him" out of spite.

So unless the OP is bringing a flash car into the republic, I don't think he needs to be too concerned one he has sufficient documentation on him.

In any case the guy got his car back, which would be my primary concern.

alejandro1977

seamus wrote: »

I think the consensus at the time was that he was unlucky enough to have been spotted by a couple of pricks who fancied a spin in his car and/or wanted to "do him" out of spite.

So unless the OP is bringing a flash car into the republic, I don't think he needs to be too concerned one he has sufficient documentation on him.

In any case the guy got his car back, which would be my primary concern.

in fairness he could easily have had his holiday ruined - he had sufficient doc so got it back after a few hours. In the linked thread there are a few anecdotes of similar events.
I presume the OP has insurance in his country of residence, so I'd advise having it to hand