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Heat Recovery and Stoves....again

  • 15-02-2011 9:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭


    I know there are many threads out there about this but I am looking on some feed back. My heat recovery installer, who is no fly by night operation is telling me that I won't need an external air supply for my stove and that the vent from the HRV in the sitting room can be adjusted to allow a greater air flow for the stove. He has several customers running this way. My question is, is anyone else running this way, and what are your experiences?

    Last thing I want is to find out that I should have put in an external supply when all the flooring is down.

    TIA,
    Poco


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    Works fine for me. I retrofitted HRV to my house, which already had a stove with no dedicated external air supply.

    What it did mean, though, was that I couldn't do what I orginally had in mind, that is, to have an extract vent in the room with the stove to take heat more directly from the stove to the HRV heat exchanger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    it did occur to me, though, that if the stove is lit and a power cut or other fault makes the HRV go off, air to the stove would be restricted. <br />
    <br />
    You'd have to remember to open a window, which isn't ideal. Maybe you should put in a dedicated air supply, while you still have the option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Poco90


    Thanks Gizmo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    gizmo555 wrote: »
    it did occur to me, though, that if the stove is lit and a power cut or other fault makes the HRV go off, air to the stove would be restricted. <br />
    <br />
    You'd have to remember to open a window, which isn't ideal. Maybe you should put in a dedicated air supply, while you still have the option.

    Or worse still, the supply fan fails and you get -ve pressure in the house drawing out CO (carbon monoxide) into the house. Imo, an external air supply is a must together with a room sealed stove plus a CO monitor. Remember you dont generally get a second chance with CO poisening!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Poco90 wrote: »
    My heat recovery installer, who is no fly by night operation is telling me that I won't need an external air supply for my stove and that the vent from the HRV in the sitting room can be adjusted to allow a greater air flow for the stove.

    Ask your installer to give a written report stating that the above installation will comply with current Irish building regulations - in particular Part F.
    He won't, and will try to bluff his way out of it.

    He is trying to sell you the idea that over-pressurization of the internal air supply will suffice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Poco90 wrote: »
    I know there are many threads out there about this but I am looking on some feed back. My heat recovery installer, who is no fly by night operation is telling me that I won't need an external air supply for my stove and that the vent from the HRV in the sitting room can be adjusted to allow a greater air flow for the stove. He has several customers running this way. My question is, is anyone else running this way, and what are your experiences?

    Last thing I want is to find out that I should have put in an external supply when all the flooring is down.

    TIA,
    Poco

    Well, I have a Stanley gas stove in my old house, without HRV, and the gas installer told me that I had to have a fixed, open, permanent air vent in the room, or he wouldn't connect it. Bear in mind that room already had a 100mm vent with a Hit & Miss grille, but that was deemend not sufficient.

    I can't see how a HRV system could suffice - if nothing else the air supply will a draught.......

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Poco90


    Thanks for all the replies. It was always my intention to put one in and after talking with him the other day I had doubts, especially since my fireplace is in the centre of the house and not backed onto an external wall. I'll lay a couple of 4" pipes in the screed to supply he stove. Thanks again.
    Poco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Antiquo


    Air Supply solid fuel appliance Section 2.2 on Page 5

    Also note update to UK building reg's for CO monitor and addition of air vent requirements in newer air tight builds see summary here on Stovax Stoves Addendum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭AMG86


    Just one further thing that you might think about is to put a damper on the pipes you are putting in the screed. It could help keep the room airtight when the stove is not being used. The stove may incorporate that damper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Poco90


    Thanks for all the posts. I intended to put in a damper alright.
    Poco


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