Legality of paid house parties ?

Eric Cartman

Right I need boards to help settle a debate, A mate was on about gaf parties and charging in and said that it was legal, im not to sure (eg gards busting warehouse raves etc...)

so lets say you had the perfect scenario

* you own a detached house / warehouse / whatever thats atleast 1km on any side from neighbours so noise or property is not an issue ,

* you charged in per person

* you didnt serve drink or sell smokes

* you employed security to keep the drugs and weapons out of it

* you declared profit from it to the revenue and did all that end of it propper

- is there any legal issue with it at all

TheZohanS

Yup, you'll need planning permission and a health&safety and fire cert.

Captain Darling

Prolly pay through the bollox to insure it.

MrStuffins

Sounds like a sh*t party! Why would anyone pay to go to that?

marxcoo

why would someone pay to go to your house?

Ricardo G

No drugs
No weapons

Sounds like Mass

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Dont forget to charge 25c per go for the use of the toilet.

Degag

* you didnt serve drink or sell smokes

Are we on about house parties here?

DOC09UNAM

People don't seem to understand the concept of a house party :rolleyes:

TimeToShine

No drink, fags or drugs?

Everyone's going to be there.

MrStuffins

marxcoo wrote: »

why would someone pay to go to your house?

"Bit of a get together in my gaff later, no drink, no smokes, big bloke in black standing at the door for some reason, giz €10 and i'll let ya in. Sound good?"

Ricardo G

A nite at "the blue Oyster bar" sounds more appealling :pac:

Pauleta

Will there be a lad in your jacks with aftershave as well?

DOC09UNAM

TimeToShine wrote: »

No drink, fags or drugs?

Everyone's going to be there.

He said they wouldn't sell drink or cigs.

He didn't say people couldn't bring them.

How many house parties have you been at where the host sells drink and cigs?

GLaDOS

Degag wrote: »

Are we on about house parties here?

You go to parties where they sell drink and smokes?

marxcoo

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

He said they wouldn't sell drink or cigs.

He didn't say people couldn't bring them.

How many house parties have you been at where the host sells drink and cigs?

How many house parties have you been to where you pay in at the door?

MrStuffins

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

How many house parties have you been at where the host sells drink and cigs?

How many house parties have you been to where you have to pay to bring your own drink and fags?

Please say lots!!!!

Eric Cartman

TheZohan wrote: »

Yup, you'll need planning permission and a health&safety and fire cert.

grand serious answer got perfect i knew I was right cheers boards

Ricardo G

Would it not be cheaper to just have a sleep over or Pyjama party???

MrStuffins

if you're going to be charging people, they're no doubt strangers. Nobody is going to invite your friends around to your gaff for a few cans and charge them to come in, and the friends CERTAINLY wouldnt pay, they'd just go to one of their own houses for free.

So, which kind of strangers will pay to go to a stranger's party where there is absolutely no perk for the money they're forking over? the kinda people who will turn up, rape your security, rob everything that isnt nailed down, wreck the place and draw graffiti penises on your sleeping grandmother,

Sea Sharp

If you have a stock of cans that people can help themselves to you can get around not having a licence to serve alcohol.

starbelgrade

TheZohan wrote: »

Yup, you'll need planning permission and a health&safety and fire cert.

And a Disability Access Certificate.

DOC09UNAM

MrStuffins wrote: »

How many house parties have you been to where you have to pay to bring your own drink and fags?

Please say lots!!!!

None, that is the hypothetical part of the scenario.

Bringing your own drink and fags is standard for all house parties tbh.

seafood dunleavy

Reminds me of the foam party in Hardy Bucks.

MrStuffins

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

None, that is the hypothetical part of the scenario.

Bringing your own drink and fags is standard for all house parties tbh.

so is not charging!

Doc

Actually that’s only if you are actually “charging” people. If I had a house party and “asked” people for a contribution towards the cost of hiring a DJ or something I don’t think it would be a legal issue. The problem would be how you would make sure that everyone paid this contribution without actually charging them an entry fee.

Nothingbetter2d

what's a party?

i have no friends

MrStuffins

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

what's a party?

i have no friends

don't worry, you can go to the OP's for a tenner!

ArtSmart

Ricardo G wrote: »

No drugs
No weapons

Sounds like Mass

but without the buzz of knowing you're damned.

ArtSmart

Doc wrote: »

Actually that’s only if you are actually “charging” people. If I had a house party and “asked” people for a contribution towards the cost of hiring a DJ or something I don’t think it would be a legal issue. The problem would be how you would make sure that everyone paid this contribution without actually charging them an entry fee.

yeah.

OP, what you need is big bowls - then you could call yourself a bowling club and have all the exemptions you want.

of course the bowls must be like the bull.

Pace2008

Eric Cartman wrote: »

* you employed security to keep the drugs and weapons out of it

**** that for a laugh.

jimmycrackcorm

The only legal way is to create a "club" with paid membership that so happens to meet up at a location such as said gaff.

I remember getting the private buses years ago from donegal to Dublin where they got around the CIE restrictions by basically making people travel club members on each journey and taking your name and money.

Mr Trade In

No drink,drugs or smokes, what was going on then? an Amish roast!