Labour party canvassers and their attitude to the church

dcmraad

So I have just had Labour party at the door canvassing.

I asked them if they would remove the catholic church from controlling our primary schools, would they prosecute the church for its crimes, and launch a full investigation into all dioceses.

The 2 canvassers looked blankly at me then while backing away said they have no views on what I was saying. Then they apologised for knocking and left. I didn't even get to politic's.

Labour if this is the best you can do, you are a party happy to let things go on the exactly the same as before. People are starting to see through Gilmore and your party's guff.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

I take it those weren't the Atheist Ireland lads so.

MagicMarker

If I went into work on Monday and expressed my views about the catholic church's monopoly over our schooling system, I'd probably be looked at as if I had 3 heads.

People just blindly accept this crap and don't give it a second thought, even if they are atheists. I would imagine the people who knocked on your door fit into this category.

Let's face facts, most people aren't as enlightened as us atheists. :pac:

Dades

I would have thought a Labour candidate would have had something to say about the OP's questions.

I'd be more sure of them doing something good with the education system, rather than the tax system, tbh.

maringo

The correct spelling of politics is politics !:p

robindch

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I take it those weren't the Atheist Ireland lads so.

Or it wasn't in Dun Laoghaire.

So much for a qui pro quo with AI

alan85

We asked Pat Rabbitte a similar question when he called to our door. We asked had he any problems with the prayers at the start of sessions and he seemed not to care. We also asked what was his view on the Angelus and he said it was a more cultural symbol than anything else...

His answers to my worries about the IMF/EU debt were equally unimpressive. Labour have no backbone regards anything! It's sad when you see people with no energy at such a dire time. Gilmore's preformance on the TV3 debate is just telling of Labour in general. No energy, no morals, no principles.... Just desire to feel important. I'm interested to see what Sinn Féin have to say about religion in public life as I'm thinking of giving them my vote...

Rev Hellfire

robindch wrote: »

Or it wasn't in Dun Laoghaire.

So much for a qui pro quo with AI

You seem surprised...

Tim Robbins

There have many political groupings in the history of the state. Parties go out of existence unless you build a power base.

Labour came from trade union movement which was their power base. They never needed the Church in the same way FG and FF had to kowtow to them.

Ruairi Quinn is one of the few leaders to call himself an atheist. Gilmore one of the few to call himself an agnostic. They can do this because they know it doesn't damage their vote.

So their nexus is that type of trade union, public sector thinking. That's what their grassroots are into. Very few of them give two hoots about the secular agenda. I searched their website looking for some good secular policies and there wasn't much.

Their policies are populist but their power base and power nexus is the public sector and the trade unions.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0203/breaking51.html

magicbastarder

Dades wrote: »

I would have thought a Labour candidate would have had something to say about the OP's questions.

they may not have been briefed on those questions - you'll probably find that some canvassers won't want to comment on a topic unless they're sure of the party's line.

in short, one swallow doesn't make a summer.

mikhail

maringo wrote: »

The correct spelling of politics is politics !:p

Yes, from the Latin poly, meaning many, and ticks, meaning blood-sucking creatures.