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I just checked the register

  • 11-02-2011 8:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭


    And it turns out they've moved me from my parents house to my own house. I never requested this change. It's only up the road, so within the same constituency for GE purposes, but it's a different area for local elections, plus it means I have to travel about 5 times the distance to get to the polling station now.

    So, if I never asked them to do this, there was no contact either way, and I've been living here 4 years and voted since I've moved out, why now have they changed my address on the register, and more importantly, can I have it changed back?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    You've been living there 4 years and you expect to be on the electoral register somewhere else?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    podge018 wrote: »
    And it turns out they've moved me from my parents house to my own house. I never requested this change. It's only up the road, so within the same constituency for GE purposes, but it's a different area for local elections, plus it means I have to travel about 5 times the distance to get to the polling station now.

    So, if I never asked them to do this, there was no contact either way, and I've been living here 4 years and voted since I've moved out, why now have they changed my address on the register, and more importantly, can I have it changed back?

    Why would you expect to be able to vote somewhere you don't live?:confused:
    No, you can't have it changed back, unless you move. And you shouldn't have voted in the wrong area after you moved either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    I expect to be on the register wherever I want to be on it to be quite honest. I have colleagues from Cork and Tipp who have lived in Dublin years but go home and vote on GE day in their locality, where they're from and where they might expect to move back to in time.

    I have no affinity with the area I'm now after being put into, I'm on the borderline and have the M50 and acres of farmland between me and my new local election area, while literally a stone's throw the other way people are in my old area with the councilors I know and who have worked for me up until now.

    That's besides the fact I have to travel completely out of my way now on a route not served by a bus rather than just walk down the road to my old polling station.

    I just want to know if this is allowed. How do they know I live here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    Reilly616 wrote: »
    Why would you expect to be able to vote somewhere you don't live?:confused:
    No, you can't have it changed back, unless you move. And you shouldn't have voted in the wrong area after you moved either.

    It's the same constituency.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    podge018 wrote: »
    It's the same constituency.

    I know. You said in your OP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    podge018 wrote: »
    I've been living here 4 years and voted since I've moved out, why now have they changed my address on the register,
    Maybe they did a review or your parents or housemates told them.
    and more importantly, can I have it changed back?
    So you want to commit electoral fraud?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    What's the rules?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Bojetta


    podge018 wrote: »
    And it turns out they've moved me from my parents house to my own house. I never requested this change. It's only up the road, so within the same constituency for GE purposes, but it's a different area for local elections, plus it means I have to travel about 5 times the distance to get to the polling station now.

    So, if I never asked them to do this, there was no contact either way, and I've been living here 4 years and voted since I've moved out, why now have they changed my address on the register, and more importantly, can I have it changed back?


    It is unfair to the electorate who live in your local election area that you would choose to try and vote at an address where you are ordinarily not resident as it reduces the elecorate in your local area and falsifies the electorate in your parents area. boundaries of electoral areas are determined by population to try and given an even weight to each vote - if you believe in the democratic process you should embrace it all and vote where you choose to live


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Go to the county registrar on monday and ask them why you are on the electoral register for an address you have lived at for the last 4 years. Demand to know how they know you live where you live. Ask them if it is allowed for you to have been moved on the register. Tell them you want to vote from an address where you do not reside.
    See, problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Someone would have called to the house in the last two years to see who was eligible to vote in the house, the register could have been amended then to reflect your change of address. So suck it up and travel to your new polling station.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    I live in both places. I own this house and rent a few rooms, but I spend as many nights in my parents for the peace and quiet. It's a 3 minute walk. It's a 10 minute drive to civilisation the opposite way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    by the way can I just say what belligerent, sarcy and downright unpleasant attitudes most of you have who've replied here. I'm not trying to vote twice or anything, or even vote, in this election, in the wrong constituency. I just asked how this happened and could it be changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    I told you how it happened, and you should be listed at the address you are resident at.
    You don't live in your parents house, you should not be registered there, end of.
    Your whole objection seems to be that you don't want the hassle of travelling on to the next polling station, ffs.
    and no you can't change it back cos you don't live there and it would be a fraudulent entry in the register.
    Are you going to have your parents put a fraudulent entry in the census at their address too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Some fool drafted the legislation like this. He forgot to say anything about going home to mammy's house to vote.
    This is the 1963 act. I doubt much has changed. Most of the amendment acts are about constituency boundary changes.

    5.—(1) A person shall be entitled to be registered as a Dáil elector in a constituency if he has reached the age of twenty-one years and he was, on the qualifying date—
    (a) a citizen of Ireland, and
    (b) ordinarily resident in that constituency.

    (2) (a) A person shall be entitled to be registered as a local government elector in a local electoral area if he has reached the age of twenty-one years and—
    (i) he was, on the qualifying date, ordinarily resident in that area, or
    (ii) he has, during the whole of the period of six months ending on the qualifying date, occupied, as owner or tenant, any land or premises in that area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    Sharrow wrote: »
    I told you how it happened, and you should be listed at the address you are resident at.
    You don't live in your parents house, you should not be registered there, end of.
    Your whole objection seems to be that you don't want the hassle of travelling on to the next polling station, ffs.
    and no you can't change it back cos you don't live there and it would be a fraudulent entry in the register.
    Are you going to have your parents put a fraudulent entry in the census at their address too?

    no that's not the whole objection. My main objection is with the boundaries and the fact that councilors in my new area are not from anywhere near it, while the councilors in my old area are working for me now, knowing full well where I live and that it might not be their area but for all intents and purposes it is, as they are living in this general area. And as I cant see myself getting the boundaries changed, I just wondered if it was possible to have myself put back as registered in my old house where I do live, probably 12 days a month on average if you total it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    kincsem wrote: »
    Some fool drafted the legislation like this. He forgot to say anything about going home to mammy's house to vote.
    This is the 1963 act. I doubt much has changed. Most of the amendment acts are about constituency boundary changes.

    5.—(1) A person shall be entitled to be registered as a Dáil elector in a constituency if he has reached the age of twenty-one years and he was, on the qualifying date—
    (a) a citizen of Ireland, and
    (b) ordinarily resident in that constituency.

    (2) (a) A person shall be entitled to be registered as a local government elector in a local electoral area if he has reached the age of twenty-one years and—
    (i) he was, on the qualifying date, ordinarily resident in that area, or
    (ii) he has, during the whole of the period of six months ending on the qualifying date, occupied, as owner or tenant, any land or premises in that area.

    more smarm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Boundaries change it happens.
    All you can do it so get clarification with the officer of the register.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭podge018


    Right, thanks.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If you had checked the register earlier then it could have been sorted out without any fuss.

    Take the hit on this election and then change back, you don't want to fall between two stools and be disenfranchised.


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