Green diesel: bad for car engine?

Ghost Estate

Is it true that green diesel contains chemicals that are bad for a car engine? I'm not too concerned about the legalities of it all, just want to know is it bad for the engine

mullingar

AFAIL, its only a special dye, but if you get caught with it by Customs it will be REALLY bad on your wallet!

Pure Sound

Ghost Estate wrote: »

Is it true that green diesel contains chemicals that are bad for a car engine? I'm not too concerned about the legalities of it all, just want to know is it bad for the engine

It's the same thing as ordinary diesel with dye through it. The chemicals thing can't be true when you consider that green diesel is used for tractors which would have the same metals/componants as any other vehicle. Using it though can be easily detected as the fumes are a kind of green colour too

-Corkie-

We Need Community wrote: »

It's the same thing as ordinary diesel with dye through it. The chemicals thing can't be true when you consider that green diesel is used for tractors which would have the same metals/componants as any other vehicle. Using it though can be easily detected as the fumes are a kind of green colour too

Most tractors will not have common rail engines or DPF`S.;)

Agri diesel has a much higher sulphur content which is being reduced. You would want to changing your oil every 5k at least..

pm.

-Corkie- wrote: »

Agri diesel has a much higher sulphur content which is being reduced. You would want to changing your oil every 5k at least..

Really :eek: i use green in my boat all the time, will the new lower sulphur have a damaging affect on the engine? Its a mercedes straight 6 year 1987

-Corkie-

pm. wrote: »

Really :eek: i use green in my boat all the time, will the new lower sulphur have a damaging affect on the engine? Its a mercedes straight 6 year 1987

No a boat is fine. I was talking about modern car engines as in 06 up..:)

Pure Sound

-Corkie- wrote: »

Most tractors will not have common rail engines or DPF`S.;)

Agri diesel has a much higher sulphur content which is being reduced. You would want to changing your oil every 5k at least..

I wasn't aware of that thanks, I was informed previously that it was the same thing with dye. If you keep the oil changed will a car perform the same or can the sulpher damage it?

-Corkie-

I cant answer that now but it wont do it any good. What I do no is that the sulphur content is being reduced as tractors are getting more modern etc.

maidhc

-Corkie- wrote: »

Most tractors will not have common rail engines or DPF`S.;)

Common rail, EGR, DPF.... all there on tractors now too im afraid.

High sulfur for sure and agri diesel seems to wax far quicker than auto diesel. I think car diesel has winter additives all year round.

coolbeans

-Corkie- wrote: »

I cant answer that now but it wont do it any good. What I do no is that the sulphur content is being reduced as tractors are getting more modern etc.

Not true. We just bought a new John Deere 6930 and it's common rail. Almost all are as they have to conform to Euro IV and V.

-Corkie-

coolbeans wrote: »

Not true. We just bought a new John Deere 6930 and it's common rail. Almost all are as they have to conform to Euro IV and V.

You just contradicted what you said there. I told the OP new tractors had newer engines thus the sulphur content being lowered.

pmac77

i was told by my diesel man (texoil) that the green is now the very same as white as it contains techron now aswell.

popsmar

the day of green desel is gone for now, it's red now. New taxes new colour, and different markers.:p

taintabird

All modern diesel engines let them be automotive agricultural or commercial have to adhere to modern emission, Tier 4 standards are achieved as follows The first method is selective catalytic reduction (SCR). SCR converts nitrogen oxides to harmless nitrogen and water by dosing exhaust fumes from the tractor's engine with small amounts of 'AdBlue', a urea solution that will be sprayed into the exhaust emissions downstream of the engine.
AdBlue is already used in road haulage on lorries, and a second tank will be needed on the tractor for holding it.
The second method is exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), which recirculates exhaust fumes back into the engine and uses a particulate filter to capture pollutants.
No AdBlue is required, but a bigger engine cooling package is required because you are recirculating hot exhaust gas back into the engine.

oscarorange42

HI Guys,

I'm really getting conflicting answers on this, can somebody answer it for me please?

I have a new shape VW Golf, it's a TDI and I do a fair bit of travelling so if I can use green diesel it would be great. apart from the legal implications, is marked gas oil/green diesel bad for your car? will it do any damage?

Thanks a million

Nissan doctor

oscarorange42 wrote: »

HI Guys,

I'm really getting conflicting answers on this, can somebody answer it for me please?

I have a new shape VW Golf, it's a TDI and I do a fair bit of travelling so if I can use green diesel it would be great. apart from the legal implications, is marked gas oil/green diesel bad for your car? will it do any damage?

Thanks a million

With any luck it'll damage your engine, how about you pay for your fuel like the rest of us?

jonnybangbang

Green diesel is not bad for your engine.
It will only turn your filters green.

It is highly illegal to use in cars but you are choosing to ignore this.

The chemicals that affect the engine is when acid is used to try and remove the dye by fuel launderers. this is what causes damage to the engine.

Red is the colour used in the UK. Green is the colour used in Ireland. both Gasoil or green diesel.

langdang

Nissan doctor wrote: »

With any luck it'll damage your engine, how about you pay for your fuel like the rest of us?

You try running a diesel car! Just try it! It's not easy you know!

jonnybangbang

-Corkie- wrote: »

I cant answer that now but it wont do it any good. What I do no is that the sulphur content is being reduced as tractors are getting more modern etc.

The below is taken from a letter issiued by Top oil in 2011.

"Since the 1stApril 2011, on foot of the Fuel Quality Directive 2009/30/EC, the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government issued S.I. No.155 of 2011, which mandated that the sulphur content of gasoil used in Off Road Mobile Machinery and Inland Waterways must be no more than 10 parts per million (ppm).
In effect this means that farm machinery, construction equipment etc. which has traditionally used “green gasoil” with a sulphur content of 1,000 ppm is now required to burn a cleaner fuel".

cjt156

oscarorange42 wrote: »

HI Guys,

Who'd like to help me steal your tax money?

Thanks a million

FYP.

dgt

langdang wrote: »

You try running a diesel car! Just try it! It's not easy you know!

ND runs far more expensive stuff than a diesel Gol, believe me

In relation to running it on a newer shape Gol then if it has a DPF it will throw up a fault due to the extra sulphur.

Marcusm

dgt wrote: »

ND runs far more expensive stuff than a diesel Gol, believe me

In relation to running it on a newer shape Gol then if it has a DPF it will throw up a fault due to the extra sulphur.

A Gol is a completely different car and I imagine most are run on ethanol derived from sugar cane. :cool:

dgt

Marcusm wrote: »

A Gol is a completely different car and I imagine most are run on ethanol derived from sugar cane. :cool:

I deliberately said Gol not Golf because it annoys some Golf owners;)

TestTransmission

oscarorange42 wrote: »

HI Guys,

I'm really getting conflicting answers on this, can somebody answer it for me please?

I have a new shape VW Golf, it's a TDI and I do a fair bit of travelling so if I can use green diesel it would be great. apart from the legal implications, is marked gas oil/green diesel bad for your car? will it do any damage?

Thanks a million

Please don't drag up one of these threads again with your "questions" or you'll be banned.