Crossfit vs Informed Performance

The Shane

Everytime it crops up organically as part of another thread then someone wades in with "let's not turn this into Crossfit vs Informed Performance" when that is exactly what I want to see happen.

I've read through the IP website but in previous threads this has been referred to as only being the tip of the iceberg while Crossfit has more stuff on the internet than I'm capable of reading.

I know there are a couple of people here who train at IP and a couple who train at Crossfit and to be honest don't expect anything but glowing reports about the kind of service they get at each facility. That's not what I'm looking for a discussion on. Everybody is lovely and cuddly so let's keep it impersonal and method related. In terms of local facilities I suppose a statement of equipment available for use would also be relevant.

Crossfit has several variants too which may complicate the argument, the adaptations of the program made by local Crossfits, the Crossfit Football program and of course the mainsite WOD which is what Crossfit generally seems to be judged on.

Any takers?

Shane, The

itsallaboutheL

Is Awesome > Jakt?


No biting ladies.

*ding ding ding*

the drifter

one spawned the word jakt...for that they should be forever cast in to fires of hell to live out eternity in bloat. other than that people seem to be getting good results on there stuff.

Chris89

I have a crossfit level 1 cert, i used to follow the WODS etc but have never trained in either of the gyms in ireland.

I have also been training in Informed performance for the last two weeks.

In my opinion, if athletic performance, general fitness, wellbeing, mobility, strength (i could go on..) is what youre after, then you need to go and see Will Heffernan.

I have been driving from Bray to Glasnevin to see him, initially for my lower back problems, but i hope to stay on because i definitely think that Will has everything i need to mould me into the best athlete i can be.

Ray Mond

have been just looking at the IP website... Looks a good place!! I'm looking to if I'm looking to put on some lean size! is IP the place to go ? Not really into cardio, would this placesuit me? Thanks in advance

Hanley

They're both basically the same.

But one's more same than the other.

Brian?

Crossfit invovles more topless workouts and disturbingly long key/wallet chains as far as I can figure.

I've never seen a video of Will or Barry covered up to their oxters in chalk either.

Having trained in neither one, it's the topless workouts that would decide it for me.

Hanley

briankeating wrote: »

Crossfit invovles more topless workouts and disturbingly long key/wallet chains as far as I can figure.

I've never seen a video of Will or Barry covered up to their oxters in chalk either.

Having trained in neither one, it's the topless workouts that would decide it for me.

*waits for it*

Chet Zar

briankeating wrote: »

Crossfit invovles more topless workouts and disturbingly long key/wallet chains as far as I can figure.

I've never seen a video of Will or Barry covered up to their oxters in chalk either.

Having trained in neither one, it's the topless workouts that would decide it for me.

This is the kind of post that turns a sensible thread into a Boards.ie Fitness Forum (soon to be probably locked) thread.

Chet Zar

For what it's worth...

-Crossfit - I did a few sessions of Crossfit while abroad recently. Massively intense and I doubt many trainers will push you like Crossfit trainers. You work hard and it'll bring your fitness up a level. I pay no attention to any of the circus which sometimes surrounds Crossfit.

Informed Performance: Never trained there but I know I'd like it, not least because they'd kick my ass just like Crossfit did. Plus it's obvious Will knows his shtuff and then some. Pity he doesn't blog more. Or ever.

Brian?

Chet Zar wrote: »

This is the kind of post that turns a sensible thread into a Boards.ie Fitness Forum (soon to be probably locked) thread.

Ah here, it was only a joke.

Inspector Coptoor

For me it comes down to opening hours and membership costs.

Crossfit is only open at a particular time meaning you have to be there at certain times of the day whereas IP is open 12 hours mon - Thursday. 10 hours on a Friday and 4 hours plus on a Saturday.

I'm not gonna go into detail on membership prices but IP is a good bit cheaper.

Black Sheep

I followed CrossFit programming for a little over two years and got good results as a novice - in addition to being exposed to a lot of different movements and lifts. I don't regret it and I still many own many pairs of board shorts.

I can only speak of CrossFit Ireland as opposed to the other boxes in Ireland but what I'd say is the guys are very nice people and at the end of the day they are doing good business so they must be keeping their clients happy.

With that said, I have been training at Informed Performance for a little over a year and I would argue that Will Heffernan is a significantly more experienced coach in every area. To me, that's what it comes down to, because both gyms have similar facilities in terms of range of equipment and quality.

Aside from general strength and conditioning the big, big virtue is that he has experience of rebuilding people after they've wrecked themselves. The mobility / stability / prehab stuff available is time-tested and when you talk to Will you know that he has come to understand it over years and years of coaching versus maybe delivering recently-learned material. Part of the reason I like IP is that if I do have a problem coming on, or did injure myself again, I know that I can speak to Will and am already in the right place to tackle it.

I think Liam's point about opening-hours is well-made. You can pretty much come in at any point in the day and work away, six days a week. No having to shoot for particular time slots to get your workout in.

Final observations-

-They're priced very differently.

-CFI is a group class environment predominantly, which may suit some people.

-Obviously they're on different sides of the city and some people just won't travel.

-IP contains an MMA/BJJ facility that may be of interest if you're up for that.

And lastly - I suspect ultimately they're not really in competition. In my experience the clientele is fairly different in terms of what they're after and what their backgrounds are. I could be wrong but although IP welcomes individuals and ordinary folk I think more and more of their business is coming in from teams and coaches bringing athletes.

Oh yeah, and why compare only IP and CrossFit? There are some other awesome 'non globogym' facilities out there like The Edge in Clontarf, that strongman place in Rathmines, maybe ECB etc.?

Zamboni

Leaving opinion aside for a mo' and going with some straightforward facts...

Price
IP > CFI

Opening Hours
IP > CFI

Khannie

Different gyms for different clients as far as I can see. As black sheep said...I don't think they're really in competition.

Magic Eight Ball

Was it really necessary to delete my post?

the drifter

Magic Eight Ball wrote: »

Was it really necessary to delete my post?

Hi Magic

Can you PM the mod in question. On thread is not really the place to discuss this. Or if you wish to discuss it with me please drop me a PM.

Thanks

D

G86

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

For me it comes down to opening hours and membership costs.

Crossfit is only open at a particular time meaning you have to be there at certain times of the day whereas IP is open 12 hours mon - Thursday. 10 hours on a Friday and 4 hours plus on a Saturday.

I'm not gonna go into detail on membership prices but IP is a good bit cheaper.

+1. The opening hours make a big difference.

I think anyone interested should just do a session in each facility and then make their own mind up that way.

Barry.Oglesby

What's the point of this thread? Two geographically distant gyms with two different target markets that aren't in competition.

This has happened before on this forum and it's becoming irritating. We're both small businesses trying to turn a buck. If people are really concerned and interested in seeing two Irish owned small enterprises do well, then the thread would be called "IP & Crossfit versus Large Chains" which is where the competition and threat to IP and CF really is.

g'em

Barry put it ver well. IP and CF are worlds apart. I don't particularly see the need to compare and contrast them and the passive aggressive bullshít in the thread is mind-boggling. Seriously is that the kind of crap you need to pull on the net to feel better about yourself?

Every gym has its plusses and every one has its minuses. Discussing the merits of each individually is cool and can be very productive, but pitching them against each other is beyond stupid.

Khannie

While the mods are ranting: I don't want to see any more of the topless jibes. I'm sick of them. They're tantamount to bullying at this stage.

Magic Eight Ball wrote: »

Was it really necessary to delete my post?

Very much so.

You should know better than to question a moderating decision on thread. You do it again and it will result in a ban. If you have a problem with a moderating decision, drop the mod a PM.