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what party is best 4 me?

  • 08-02-2011 10:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭


    parents regd me 2 vote...midde/upper middle class 20 years old.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do the political compass test and vote accordingly.

    Best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Hmm, a student. Hmm, probably in college. Hmm, you probably want to maintain free-education. Hmm, upper middle class. Hmm, I'd say you'd be a reluctant Labour voter.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    At least till the OP gets his pay cheaque.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭COUCH WARRIOR


    Don't vote, an uninformed vote is worse than no vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    Don't vote, an uninformed vote is worse than no vote.

    Disagree, sometimes you don't need to vote for the best candidate, just the one who will do the least harm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭COUCH WARRIOR


    Dannyboy83 wrote: »
    Disagree, sometimes you don't need to vote for the best candidate, just the one who will do the least harm.

    But how would you know, without informing yourself? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    At 20 you should have figured out what your political leanings are. FFS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    At 20 you should have figured out what your political leanings are. FFS

    Im 24 and not entirely sure who I'll be voting for, I doubt very much I'm the only one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭hagbard


    Perhaps the undecided voters in this thread could list what issues are important to them, what they'd like to see happen to Ireland, and so forth.
    Without knowing that it's hard to give a fair response to the question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭CokaColumbo


    Personally I would urge the OP not to vote for Sinn Fein or Labour as, if I am correct, these parties want to impose the largest tax increases and want to protract the deficit reduction which requires taking on even more debt.
    Your location says 'sodub' which I assume means South Dublin. If that's your constituency, I'd consider throwing Shane Ross a vote.

    But I agree, if you are incapable of making an informed decision, then don't vote at all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    hagbard wrote: »
    Perhaps the undecided voters in this thread could list what issues are important to them, what they'd like to see happen to Ireland, and so forth.
    Without knowing that it's hard to give a fair response to the question.

    I dont know much about politics so would probably make a fool of myself! I listen to The Last Word on the way home from work and watch The Frontline most weeks but thats about the only info Id have on Irish politics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭hagbard


    IPAM, I didn't mean issues in the sense of what the pundits think matters.
    I meant what you see as being wrong when you look at where you live. Don't worry about what journalists or politicians think you should care about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Coldplat


    Don't vote, an uninformed vote is worse than no vote.


    Thats a rediculous attitude, of course he/she should vote, just get informed first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    hagbard wrote: »
    IPAM, I didn't mean issues in the sense of what the pundits think matters.
    I meant what you see as being wrong when you look at where you live. Don't worry about what journalists or politicians think you should care about.

    TBH the 2 local polititions seem to do a good job where I live, 1 is FF the other FG.

    Obviously unemployment needs to be addressed in every area,

    Im not sure what else I should be looking at? Maybe ask a few questions, I'll answer and you might have an idea from my answers?? :o:o:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    You need to figure out some sort of political preferences :)

    There are probably quite a few people running in your area.
    when you got to vote you can order them 1,2,3 etc.

    You could decide based on party they are with , the policies the parties put forward , what you think their parties will actually do , the character of the individual themselves , the past record of the individual , or a mixture of all the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Craebear


    Go into the booth, cover your forehead with ink and proceed to smash your face repeatedly on the ballot paper. It makes no difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭sollar


    You could do what half the irish population do and vote like so:



    But i'd recommend you to the political compass test first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    IPAM wrote: »
    TBH the 2 local polititions seem to do a good job where I live, 1 is FF the other FG.

    Obviously unemployment needs to be addressed in every area,

    Im not sure what else I should be looking at? Maybe ask a few questions, I'll answer and you might have an idea from my answers?? :o:o:o

    ok , here are a few questions

    in order to correct the public finances ,do you think its nescesery to cut wages and wellfare further or do you believe its preferable to focus more on raising taxes

    do you think its better for everyone to pay a certain amount of tax or do you think most of the tax burden should be carried by high earners , however few they may be

    do you think those in the public sector who are surplus to requirements should be let go or do you think this is pointless as they would then end up in reciept of social wellfare anyhow

    job creation and the economy , do you believe it is the main responsibility of the goverment to create jobs or do you believe its better for the goverment to stay out of the economy for the most part and merley enact legislation which encourages job creation and growth in the economy

    regarding the issue of health , do you think a public funded health system is best or do you belive a system where private health insurers operate our hospital is preferable

    immigration , is it an issue for you in anyway shape or form

    europe , do you believe irelands future is best served by being at the heart of europe and the euro currency or do you believe we have conceeded too much and need to exercise more independance from the continent beit in terms of our economy or anything else for that matter

    neutrality , is this an important issue for you or are you content with the status quo

    enviroment , again , is this a major issue for you , how do you feel about energy security , nuclear power , wind energy etc

    industrial relations , how do you view the impact of trade unions in this country , do you think they have too much influence over goverment policy or do you believe they cannot be strong enough and are paramount to those in employment


    northern ireland , is it an issue for you in sofar as irish unity is one of your key ambitions going forward

    thats all i can think of for now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    InReality wrote: »
    You need to figure out some sort of political preferences :)

    There are probably quite a few people running in your area.
    when you got to vote you can order them 1,2,3 etc.

    You could decide based on party they are with , the policies the parties put forward , what you think their parties will actually do , the character of the individual themselves , the past record of the individual , or a mixture of all the above.


    The chap who seems to do most locally is FF :D so do I vote for him because it's good for me or vote FG to get FF out?? Ugh complicated :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Ill PM you Irishh Bob :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭Donnaghm


    IPAM wrote: »
    The chap who seems to do most locally is FF :D so do I vote for him because it's good for me or vote FG to get FF out?? Ugh complicated :/

    It's only complicated if you're not very bright.

    What will sustain FF in this election is "the local FF guy was great for the local area, look at our GAA club facilities and pothole free roads" attitude. Put national issues first for God sake. FF needs to be decimated, at least temporarily. The Irish electorate needs to put the fear of God in our politicians so they'll never treat us with the same level of contempt and arrogance again. My rant is over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    hagbard wrote: »
    IPAM, I didn't mean issues in the sense of what the pundits think matters.
    I meant what you see as being wrong when you look at where you live. Don't worry about what journalists or politicians think you should care about.

    This is why I posted about local matters, it was in response to a question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Dont join a party if you don't know anything about them. That would be silly. Vote as an independent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    IPAM wrote: »
    The chap who seems to do most locally is FF :D so do I vote for him because it's good for me or vote FG to get FF out?? Ugh complicated :/

    I can't think what any FF TD would have done for you locally that would out weigh the damage that the FF party has done to you on a national level !

    Does being [random number] billions in debt ring a bell ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    InReality wrote: »
    I can't think what any FF TD would have done for you locally that would out weigh the damage that the FF party has done to you on a national level !

    Does being [random number] billions in debt ring a bell ?

    again I was asked about local issues ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭Donnaghm


    IPAM wrote: »
    again I was asked about local issues ffs

    Well you're a moron if you vote based on local issues.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Have wew not established that the country works like that.

    I rang my mother over the weekend upon hearing that Hairy Mick Wallace was standing in wexford, Even tho She knows him Well, had Spoken to him in the Pub and was thoroughly convinced of his integrity & honesty, she Basicly Said she is STILL Going to Vote for Browne, a Creacher So rare in our end of the county that many are only reminded of what he looks like when the election Posters Go up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭dilbert2


    partyndbs wrote: »
    parents regd me 2 vote...midde/upper middle class 20 years old.

    What's "Upper" Middle "Class" then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Donnaghm wrote: »
    Well you're a moron if you vote based on local issues.

    Your a moron if you think I will vote on local issues, read the thread, I was asked a question and replied, no where did I say who/how I was voting, its the very point of this topic, I dont know who to vote for..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭dilbert2


    Hmm, upper middle class. Hmm, I'd say you'd be a reluctant Labour voter.

    Eh no, Labour like all good Socialist political parties and peoples do not condone or believe in the class system, or the idea that we should be divided into classes as opposed to been considered equal members of society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    The nutter's preference list, in descending order:
    1. Clan na Poblachta (on so many levels - particularly since they don't exist!)
    2. Communist Workers' Party (on the grounds that they are Communist)
    3. Socialist (on the grounds that they are Socialist)
    4. Sinn Fein (on the grounds that they are nationalist-socialist)
    5. Fianna Fail (encouragement of bubbles, and financial and public spending deregulation)
    6. Christian Solidarity (on the grounds that the Catholic Church is not something to welcome into the Dail)
    7. Independent who hasn't bothered creating a manifesto (wont get in/ doesn't care)
    8. People Before Profit ( like socialists, but with some decent grass-roots sentiments)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    Op - are you considering a vote for FF ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭Donnaghm


    IPAM wrote: »
    Your a moron if you think I will vote on local issues, read the thread, I was asked a question and replied, no where did I say who/how I was voting, its the very point of this topic, I dont know who to vote for..

    Fill this in IPAM, and it'll tell you who you're most suited to.

    http://www.votomatic.ie/Test.aspx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Hardcore labour....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    took votomatic - told I am closest to SinnFein,

    took the votematch.tv3.ie - told I am closest to FG,

    took Papa Smuts Political Compass - what does this mean???

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.88&soc=-0.31


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