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Snakeblood

A poll, apparently centred on new Labour marketing strategies just went up. It made me think about it. I don't have a positive view on any party or their ability to govern.

Anyway, the questions were how do I feel about each party, how do I feel about each leader, how do I feel about each parties ability to fix the economy, and then possible new slogans/techniques for Labour, ranging from party/country unity, to slagging Enda Kenny and praising the leadership of Eamonn Gimore. They pretty much ignored FF in the questioning.

If you are looking for the man who is voting but hates everyone in the results, that would be me.

Edit:

Now I think about it:
There were questions about abortion policy, which makes me think that it wasn't a poll from labour, it was a negative poll. Who is going to throw abortion into the debate at this point?

Morag

You'd be surprised, the EU courts have pointed out that Ireland needs to legislate for the abortions which are legal here and that is being used to scaremonger. There was idiots spouting on twitter today that Labour in government would set about bringing in abortion law, ie to bring in the legislation which has been delayed by inaction for the last 7 years, as a way to shít stir basically.

Sulmac

More than likely the next government will have to legislate for abortion in limited circumstances along the lines of the A, B & C v. Ireland case, so I suppose it is relevant.

It's hardly a major election issue for the vast majority of people though.

CoalBucket

The abortion issue is radioactive to all political parties. Jesus it really is the 1980s all over again.

mgmt

The Constitution specifically recognises and protects your right to life.

Your right to life also means a right to have nature take its course and to die a natural death. That does not mean that you have a right to have your life terminated or death accelerated. Your right to die is simply a right to die a natural death and not to be kept alive by artificial means.

The right to life of the unborn was inserted into the Constitution by a constitutional amendment in 1983. The equal right to life of the mother is also protected. In 1992, two amendments were added to the Constitution; the right of the mother to travel to another state and freedom of information in relation to services available in another state.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/irish_constitution_1/right_to_life.html

The EU can fock right off.

PeterIanStaker

Sharrow wrote: »

There was idiots spouting on twitter today that Labour in government would set about bringing in abortion law, ie to bring in the legislation which has been delayed by inaction for the last 7 years, as a way to shít stir basically.

Probably Coir/Youth Defence minions doing their bit for the saintly FF party :rolleyes:

Sulmac

First of all, it's not the EU. It's the European Court of Human Rights which is a body of the Council of Europe.

Secondly, the recent case basically reiterated what our own Supreme Court ruled in the 'X' case in 1992 - that abortion is legal when the life of the mother is threatened, including from the threat of suicide, and that the Oireachtas needs to legislate for this. Nineteen years later, we still have no such legislation so doctors don't actually know whether or not they are allowed to perform (or recommend) abortions to women whose lives are at risk from continuing the pregnancy.

C14N

Bringing up abortion will only serve to harm themselves really.

I just personally hope that it doesn't change greatly. I can see why people want it when the mother could die but otherwise, I'm glad we're one of the few countries where it's still illegal.

Morag

C14N wrote: »

Bringing up abortion will only serve to harm themselves really.

I just personally hope that it doesn't change greatly. I can see why people want it when the mother could die but otherwise, I'm glad we're one of the few countries where it's still illegal.

Eh it is legal where there is enough risk to the mother.

We just have not had any legal abortions preformed here due to them all playing ostrich and refusing to legislate, so we have the HSE spending money sending women who are entitled to a legal abortion here in this country abroad for their legal medical proceedures.

nesf

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Probably Coir/Youth Defence minions doing their bit for the saintly FF party :rolleyes:

Coir have no love for FF they just lash out at any group who even hint they might support even limited abortion.

Reilly616

mgmt wrote: »

The EU can fock right off.

The EU doesn't even have anything to do with the issue...

Harrietvane

I've been out canvassing for a friend running for Labour and we've been asked about abortion about two or three times I've been out. The candidate said she'd been asked a lot of Qs concerning that issue also, mainly from older members of the electorate. Interestingly, we've been told that a recent issue of Alive!, a parish magazine distributed through churches, advised parishoners to ask this question of election candidates. Havent seen the magazine article so dunno if they're recommending Labour be asked only about abortion or all parties.