Why one might vote for Frank Fahey

Sponge Bob

The Dáil is full of teachers who hire a sub while they are in the Dáil but keep clocking up those pensionable service increments and of course the teaching pension.

Fahey was one such for years, however Faheygave the teaching job up in the early 2010 ( after 28 years in the Oireachtas)

However, as I understand it, neither Micheál Martin, leader of Fianna Fáil nor his deputy leader Mary Hanafin ever gave up their teaching jobs. unlike Frank. Both are still on extended leave. Martin allegedly wrote to the Dept of Education asking for his pension to be recalculated for the 5 years he taught _ONLY_ . However we never heard back on whether this offer was accepted by the Dept of Education. Surely he should be able to show us that letter by now.

And for that reason I would sooner vote for Frank Fahey than either Martin or Hanafin.

In the interests of balance i would point out that Enda Kenny only retired as a teacher in 2007 and will collect over 30 years of teaching pension while he was actually in the Dáil for most of that time. I am not sure whether Enda is handing back the years he did not teach for .....ie did he write a letter to the department same as Micheál Martin did...and what was the reply.

I sincerely hope that the pair of them, Martin and Kenny, get asked about this matter in the leaders debates. having said that I think that a public servant should have their post kept open for 3 Dáil terms ...or 15 years...whichever is the shortest. I know they cannot clock up the double pensions any more.

Former deputy labour leader Brendan Howlin only resigned from teaching in 2009.

A further question on whether the full increment ...or base salary..was paid to their substitutes over those years is also in order. I know that most teaching TDs of whatever party paid their substitute at base of scale and pocketed the annual increments on top of that.

Lets hope the new Dáil is not 1/5th teachers like the last one was

takun

And for that reason I would sooner vote for Frank Fahey than either Martin or Hanafin.

Only makes sense if you are offered a ballot with just those three names and wanted to pick the lesser of all evils. Given that this is not the case, I don't see anything that makes Fahey significantly different or worthy of a vote based on this approach to holding his teaching position. I mean, 28 years?

I think that a public servant should have their post kept open for 3 Dáil terms ...or 15 years...whichever is the shortest

Why? Why should the post be kept open for them at all? If I am working in the local factory and get elected, the management are not going to hold my position open for me on the off chance that I might come back in 15 years. Why should public servants be treated any differently?

NapoleonInRags

Sponge Bob wrote: »

The Dáil is full of teachers who hire a sub while they are in the Dáil but keep clocking up those pensionable service increments and of course the teaching pension.

Fahey was one such for years, however Faheygave the teaching job up in the early 2010 ( after 28 years in the Oireachtas)

However, as I understand it, neither Micheál Martin, leader of Fianna Fáil nor his deputy leader Mary Hanafin ever gave up their teaching jobs. unlike Frank. Both are still on extended leave. Martin allegedly wrote to the Dept of Education asking for his pension to be recalculated for the 5 years he taught _ONLY_ . However we never heard back on whether this offer was accepted by the Dept of Education. Surely he should be able to show us that letter by now.

And for that reason I would sooner vote for Frank Fahey than either Martin or Hanafin.

In the interests of balance i would point out that Enda Kenny only retired as a teacher in 2007 and will collect over 30 years of teaching pension while he was actually in the Dáil for most of that time. I am not sure whether Enda is handing back the years he did not teach for .....ie did he write a letter to the department same as Micheál Martin did...and what was the reply.

I sincerely hope that the pair of them, Martin and Kenny, get asked about this matter in the leaders debates. having said that I think that a public servant should have their post kept open for 3 Dáil terms ...or 15 years...whichever is the shortest. I know they cannot clock up the double pensions any more.

Former deputy labour leader Brendan Howlin only resigned from teaching in 2009.

A further question on whether the full increment ...or base salary..was paid to their substitutes over those years is also in order. I know that most teaching TDs of whatever party paid their substitute at base of scale and pocketed the annual increments on top of that.

Lets hope the new Dáil is not 1/5th teachers like the last one was

Fahey's talking up of the property market as recently as 2009 is the main reason why my pen would never go near his name on a ballot sheet.

Sponge Bob

I wouuld have insisted on 7 years had the 'long service increment' for TDs serving longer than 7 years not recently been abolished. I will accept 3 TERMS now, 3 terms between 1981/1987 would have been 5 years and 8 months by the way !!!

Giving up his teaching job, under pressure, and before his Party Leader and Party Deputy leader did is the ONLY reason I can think of for ever voting for Frankeen

Skid

You don't vote for someone just because they are creaming slightly less from the system than other people (who he is not running against)

It took him 28 years before he stopped claiming pension entitlements?

This is the flimsiest reason I have ever heard for giving someone a vote.

Sponge Bob

I see some people have trouble with the actual thread title ....you know the one where "I" is not mentioned :cool: