Vote? Polish - Living here 5+ years - Partner Irish (not married)

whats going on at all

Allowed to Vote in Irish Elections?

Nationality - Polish
Living here 5 years
Partner Irish (not married)

beagle001

Sorry no vote for you,it's only Irish citizens that are registered that can vote.
Nothing stopping you giving them stick when they canvas your door.

Lawrence1895

No. You are only allowed to cast your vote in Local Elections and European Elections (as you are from another EU state). To vote for the Dail, you need the Irish passport.

sceptre

Lars1916 wrote: »

To vote for the Dail, you need the Irish passport.

Or a UK passport.

Lawrence1895

sceptre wrote: »

Or a UK passport.

Didn't know that now. Sounds like, everyone with a UK passport can vote for the Irish parliament, even if he lives in England, Scotland or Wales?

Jim236

sceptre wrote: »

Or a UK passport.

If you're a British citizen, you must still be resident in Ireland to vote AFAIK.

sceptre

Jim236 wrote: »

If you're a British citizen, you must still be resident in Ireland to vote AFAIK.

Yes indeed. Residency is the first test for registering anyone (anyone resident can vote in local elections for example), nationality is the second for determining in which elections someone can vote.

Dymo

British and Irish citizens only, obviously must have an Irish address to be on the registry

woop

is the whole brittish passport holder votin thing for the nordy situation? or whats the thinking behind it

Jim236

woop wrote: »

is the whole brittish passport holder votin thing for the nordy situation? or whats the thinking behind it

No, anyone born on the island of Ireland is automatically an Irish citizen. Its a bilateral agreement that allows Irish citizens living in Britain to vote in British elections, and British citizens living in Ireland to vote in Irish elections. The reason for it was because there was/are so many Irish living in Britain.

deanh

woop wrote: »

is the whole brittish passport holder votin thing for the nordy situation? or whats the thinking behind it

I think it is mainly because Irish people living in the U.K. have the vote there, so it was done in the interest of fairness. There was a referendum on this about 15? years ago.

meathgal2010

I was born in the UK have a British passport and have been living here 10 years now. Was able to vote in the last election but couldnt vote for the Lisbon treaty as my vote for that was registered in the UK .... still don't understand that one

Jim236

deanh wrote: »

I think it is mainly because Irish people living in the U.K. have the vote there, so it was done in the interest of fairness. There was a referendum on this about 15? years ago.

Yep in 1984 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland

baalthor

meathgal2010 wrote: »

I was born in the UK have a British passport and have been living here 10 years now. Was able to vote in the last election but couldnt vote for the Lisbon treaty as my vote for that was registered in the UK .... still don't understand that one

Only Irish citizens can vote in referendums and Presidential elections.

The rules are:

All residents: Local elections
EU citizens only: European elections
Irish and British citizens only: Dail elections
Irish citizens only: Presidential elections and referendums

deanh

meathgal2010 wrote: »

I was born in the UK have a British passport and have been living here 10 years now. Was able to vote in the last election but couldnt vote for the Lisbon treaty as my vote for that was registered in the UK .... still don't understand that one

A referendum is to change the the Constitution. Obviously, only Irish Citizens could vote to change the base law of the country.

Cat Melodeon

whats going on at all wrote: »

Allowed to Vote in Irish Elections?

Nationality - Polish
Living here 5 years
Partner Irish (not married)

Having lived here for five years, you are eligible to vote in all elections and referenda. However, you first have to apply for full citizenship. This process is a formality once you are an EU citizen and can prove you have lived here (and been ordinarily resident here) for five years.

Unfortunately, you have missed the deadline for amending the electoral roll - even if you registered before for voting in European and local elections, your name will have an 'E' placed beside it to show that you are not eligible to vote in a General Election. This is not updated without you amending your status yourself.

Info on becoming an Irish citizen through naturalisation:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/becoming_an_irish_citizen_through_naturalisation.html
Voting rights:
http://www.integration.ie/website/omi/omiwebv6.nsf/page/infoformigrants-voting-en

beagle001

It takes 2 years after application is submitted to become a citizen.
A little bit more than a formality i think

Dozen Wicked Words

beagle001 wrote: »

It takes 2 years after application is submitted to become a citizen.
A little bit more than a formality i think

Nearly a 1000 euro for the honour, steep enough too.

beagle001

Yepp and they are talking about more requirements to be added to it.
Definitely not as straight forward as posted earlier

Lawrence1895

dooferoaks wrote: »

Nearly a 1000 euro for the honour, steep enough too.

Considering somebody comes from another member state of the EU should have some certain rights in this country, such as job entitlements and free movement within the EU, 1000 quid for the citizenship are much too high. And just for casting a vote, I won't go for it either...since no established party seems to give a toss about workers from other EU countries.

RedDawn

beagle001 wrote: »

Sorry no vote for you,it's only Irish citizens that are registered that can vote.
Nothing stopping you giving them stick when they canvas your door.

British citizens can as well, technically.
Though they can't vote in Presidentials or referendum polls.

Sir Oxman

Lars1916 wrote: »

Considering somebody comes from another member state of the EU should have some certain rights in this country, such as job entitlements and free movement within the EU, 1000 quid for the citizenship are much too high. And just for casting a vote, I won't go for it either...since no established party seems to give a toss about workers from other EU countries.

AFAIK, I can't go live and work in Poland or France or Denmark or any other EU country except the UK and vote in their national elections unless I become naturalised.
The Ireland/UK situation is because of our historical ties.

Also, a fee is payable in most countries I assume, for processing a naturalisation application (UK is £780)

Lawrence1895

gambiaman wrote: »

AFAIK, I can't go live and work in Poland or France or Denmark or any other EU country except the UK and vote in their national elections unless I become naturalised.
The Ireland/UK situation is because of our historical ties.

Also, a fee is payable in most countries I assume, for processing a naturalisation application (UK is £780)

There should be something like a free movement for workers, according to this website: http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=458&langId=en

Voting though is a different story, you always need your host country's citizenship, but I suppose it's a bit easier when you move from one EU member state to another one, due to multilateral agreements.

Sir Oxman

Lars1916 wrote: »

There should be something like a free movement for workers, according to this website: http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=458&langId=en

Voting though is a different story, you always need your host country's citizenship, but I suppose it's a bit easier when you move from one EU member state to another one, due to multilateral agreements.

Sorry, I was replying about the voting rights of EU citizens in Ireland.
There is free movement for EU workers?

Lawrence1895

gambiaman wrote: »

Sorry, I was replying about the voting rights of EU citizens in Ireland.
There is free movement for EU workers?

There is a free movement for workers within the EU indeed, that's why I came to Ireland (I was born in Germany).

But there are restrictions though, e.g. working in the public sector or for those coming from a member state, which joined the EU after 2004 for a 'transition period' of 7 years. (all to be found in the link I posted above)

KELTICKNIGHTT

beagle001 wrote: »

It takes 2 years after application is submitted to become a citizen.
A little bit more than a formality i think

if gets Irish citizenship ,be good for next election,be less than this term