`Village atheist' takes aim at Catholic school - David Quinn

Xizors Palace

Good story here from Davy Quinn.

He makes a good point:

What happens in a small rural community when the 'village atheist' decides to send his child to the local Catholic school? Last week we found out; he considers taking a human rights case against the school.

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Two vitally important points must be made in response. The first is that the Irish Constitution gives very strong protection to religious parents. It recognises their right to send their children to a school that reflects their beliefs, and it requires that the State respond to this right by funding such schools.

It never envisaged, and doesn't envisage, that the rights of religious parents could be trampled over to satisfy the conflicting rights of non-religious parents.

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This would mean that the rights of non-religious parents had been allowed to trump the rights of religious parents. This would be especially unjust in a small community like Dromahair where the vast majority of parents are probably happy with their local Catholic school.

Full story here.

Personally, I find it pretty hard to swallow the fact that this fella, and two of the complainants in the ABC Vs Eire abortion case, were not even from Ireland. It's political correctness gone mad. Outsiders come in to destroy the peace and further erode the morals of the local people to pursue their nefarious goals. Unbelievable. The Irish people really ought to wake up. I don't think they will though.

antiskeptic

Xizors Palace wrote: »

Personally, I find it pretty hard to swallow the fact that this fella, and two of the complainants in the ABC Vs Eire abortion case, were not even from Ireland.

If you pay taxes here it seems fair enough to me that you should have a say in how the country is run with those taxes.

Besides - we're European.

It's political correctness gone mad. Outsiders come in to destroy the peace and further erode the morals of the local people to pursue their nefarious goals. Unbelievable. The Irish people really ought to wake up. I don't think they will though.

Are you saying that religious people are more moral than atheist people?

I don't know who coined the phrase but it is true that the only certain thing in life is change. If the constitution guarantees the right of a person to have their child brought up according to the beliefs of it's parents then everyone is entitled to have that right expressed - assuming each belief system is considered equally valid.


Certainly, if things swing too far - to the point where it becomes - as David says - freedom from religion then a fight must be entered into. Just as this atheist is entering into it.

Zombrex

Xizors Palace wrote: »

Good story here from Davy Quinn.
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It recognises their right to send their children to a school that reflects their beliefs, and it requires that the State respond to this right by funding such schools.

Apparently Mr Quinn has no concept of irony. :rolleyes:

Ghost Buster

Xizors Palace wrote: »

Good story here from Davy Quinn.

He makes a good point:



Full story here.

Personally, I find it pretty hard to swallow the fact that this fella, and two of the complainants in the ABC Vs Eire abortion case, were not even from Ireland. It's political correctness gone mad. Outsiders come in to destroy the peace and further erode the morals of the local people to pursue their nefarious goals. Unbelievable. The Irish people really ought to wake up. I don't think they will though.

Is this the same David Quinn whos own Iona institutes poll revealed that a majority do not think it right that The catholic church maintain control of over 90% of the nations schools... But thats beside the point.
The point here is that the school has a policy about giving parents the option to have their kids opt out of religious drip feed in school.They instigated this by being gracious enough to give these parents the option (bless em) and then just binning the dam thing and plowing ahead as normal.
They broke an agreement, they lied and this parent has cause for grievance.
And congratulations for being the first on boards to invoke irelands own version of
Godwins law

Bleddy foreigners coming over here and bringing their hi filloutin' civilised pluralistic democratic notions with them!!!!

Delirium

The 'village atheist'? I like the way it avoids commenting on the parents/children of other faiths.

This story could easily have been about a muslim or jewish family. Religious instruction shouldn't be taking place in public schools.

David quinn needs to get a life and stop yapping

seamus

The term "village atheist" says more about David Quinn than anything else. He seems to regard this person as a deliberate troublemaker rather than someone with legitimate rights.

It also shows that he regards atheism as some kind of niche passing fad rather than acknowledging the fact of it being the fastest growing group in this country. A recent study in UCD showed that more than 30% of students there said that they do not believe in any particular God (can't find the link at the moment).

Ghost Buster

Sometimes there is a place for tired old cliches and sometime the more tired the better.. So here is every article ever by David Quinn summarised

here

Nodin

He actually says 'village atheist'......I thought it was the OP having a giggle....

hotmail.com

David Quinn is deeply unpopular. So I'm glad he's the spokesman for all this hard right nonsense.

Manach

I'm a bit puzzled how someone who proposes that "need for the State, with the help of the Church, to provide more schools to cater for non-religious parents. This will mean that the Church will have to give up some of its schools." is in any way "hard right nonsense" ... left wing maybe.

garrincha62

Look the man has his agenda. He believes in De Valera's Ireland and that the family unit must be protected at all costs (providing it is Catholic of course) Nothing wrong with that. He's clearly a luddite.