How to ditch my 'friends'

JajaD

Hey. This is a long story ..sorry Ok so, Throughout school I hung around with a bunch of girls. After school my good friends moved down the country for college. As we got older, new girls are now in the group and are now like best mates with one of the girls. My bestfriend is also best friends with all of them also. They are really girly girls who have the same fashion, same music(pop crap!) interest, while i am more of the poetic, instrument player, into gigs, talking about interesting stuff. This year, i just realised that the group i once was a part of has totally changed since the group i once loved. 2 of the girls are still in cork, i still talk to them regularly but they are so far away. I still have my best mate in the group but she seems more interested in the other girls. And there is another of my better mates still hanging with us, but like me, she is different to the others and realises that our group is full of jealous girls who bitch about one another constantly. My friends make no effort with me, i have to do all the texting, and they literally ignore my boyfriend on nights out. They are really really bitchy (these are the 'new' group members). One in particular i cannot stand and i am the only one who is clever enough to notice how she has joined our group(cos she had no friends) and has literally befriended everyone to get them on their good side, yet bitches behind of their backs. I literally havent texted her, or the other new girls in 4 weeks and they havent texted me, even through my exams. nothing! Only my 2 better friends have texted me and we've been out, whilst keeping in contact with the other 2 down the country. My problem is, what do i do? I want to stay friends with the 2 up here but they also really get on with the other girls here that i dont get on with and dont consider as nice people. I am a very honest, goodlooking (i dont wanna seem boastful), nearly finished my degree, i sing and play loads of instruments, i have an amazing boyfriend and im really caring and individual. I really dont want to come across as stuck up or into myself or anything, i am really generous and do everything for any of the girls but it goes un-noticed. When i make a suggestion its put down, when i try and organise nights out the other bitchy girl literally tries to out-do me. It seems that i just cannot be apart of the group i was once a part of. Also, one of the girls has a baby and she is stuck in her apt every night, the girls visit her a few times a week. I wondered are they jealous of me. They are all single, most dont have jobs, or do anything remotely exciting. I am always going to festivals, gigs, working etc. Are they jealous of me, or what is there problem? I literally have never done anything wrong in my whole life. I have never had trouble getting boyfriends and they do. I am seriously a nice person so they cant dislike me over being bitchy.

Any suggestions? I would love friends more like me, who are into going to gigs, playing music, being spontaneous and not boring, and friends who are not stuck up.

I dunno, Any advice?

Sorry for the freaking novel i have just written, just realised how long this post is!!! Ooopsy! :eek:

LegacyUser

JajaD wrote: »

...They are really girly girls who have the same fashion, same music(pop crap!) interest, while i am more of the poetic, instrument player, into gigs, talking about interesting stuff. This year, i just realised that the group i once was a part of has totally changed since the group i once loved. ....... i have to do all the texting, and they literally ignore my boyfriend on nights out. They are really really bitchy (these are the 'new' group members). ........ My problem is, what do i do? I want to stay friends with the 2 up here .....They are all single, most dont have jobs, or do anything remotely exciting. I am always going to festivals, gigs, working etc. Are they jealous of me, or what is there problem?.....

It's a no brainer OP

You've moved in different directions and the group dynamic has changed. Maybe you just need to grieve for your lost friendships because it sounds like you've got it made in the shade on your own. If there are members of your group that you remain friendly with, that's great. If they won't make time for you, there isn't a whole pile you can do.

It absolutely does happen that girls bitch behind each others' backs out of jealousy but in this case, who knows. I did go through the male equivalent of this at your age and it's not pleasant. You will wonder what is wrong with you but my advice is paddle your own canoe. You will find your place.

Kablamo!

If you are so great that all your current friends are 'jealous' of you, you shouldn't have a problem making new friends at a gig or poetry reading or whatever.

Penn

Maybe they aren't jealous of you, your interests have changed. You like a lot of different things than they do. Doesn't mean they should be any more jealous of you than you should of them, even if you have literally done nothing wrong in your whole life.

You're not as close to some of them as you were, and some new girls in the group are closer to the rest than you are. Either make more of an effort and hope they do the same, or make new friends. Keep in contact with the ones you like and focus on them.

Cheap Thrills!

Hi OP,

I just want to give you a bit of insight, going on your post, on where you might be going wrong with people.

It's good to have a good self esteem but I think you may be unwittingly coming accross as a bit smug and self-satsfied. I'm really not sure to be honest as it's very difficult to judge someone based on a few words in a post.

You have decided that these girls are 'jealous' of you but it's possibe they may just find you insufferable and a bit 'up yourself' -I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but your post doesn't come accross too well.

All the way through your post you've second guessed yourself and never come out wanting!!! lol come on no-one is that perfect!

But you are tending to put an ultra positive spin on everything about yourself. Qualities which are endearing in normal quantities can become offputting in excess.

You've decided the others are the problem and not yourself. For example you have described yourself as follows:

They are really girly girls who have the same fashion, same music(pop crap!) interest, while i am more of the poetic, instrument player, into gigs, talking about interesting stuff.

One persons 'poetic' is another persons pretentious drivel.
One persons 'interesting stuff' is another persons idea of turgid hell.

You dismiss these girls tastes in music as pop crap, now I also hate pop crap BUT I wouldn't judge others who find it cheerful and diverting. It's just taste. Yours is not better than theirs.

And the tone of your post overall seems to indicate that you feel yourself to be more worthy and 'better' because of your interest and tastes. That is pretty alienating to people. You can be sure you are leaking this belief in your attitudes, words and actions around people and maybe they find it unbearable.

You may not be even aware of this. It's very difficult to see yourself as others do.

Just a few more examples below here which might help you see why you could be alienating your two 'better' friends:

i am the only one who is clever enough

I am a very honest, goodlooking (i dont wanna seem boastful), nearly finished my degree, i sing and play loads of instruments, i have an amazing boyfriend and im really caring and individual. I really dont want to come across as stuck up or into myself or anything, i am really generous and do everything

Also, one of the girls has a baby and she is stuck in her apt every night, the girls visit her a few times a week. I wondered are they jealous of me.

They might be jealous of you or maybe they just have nothing in common with you and find you hard work in your own self-perceived perfection!!

They are all single, most dont have jobs, or do anything remotely exciting. I am always going to festivals, gigs, working etc. Are they jealous of me, or what is there problem?

Again, yes possibly jealous. Maybe they never had your chances, talents or education. You talk about being bitchy but you judge these people as almost two dimensional shadows who just aren't as gifted, interesting or wonderful as yourself. Where is the humility?

I literally have never done anything wrong in my whole life.

Now OP, come on. EVERYONE has done things wrong in their lives. You need to be more realistic.

I have never had trouble getting boyfriends and they do. I am seriously a nice person so they cant dislike me over being bitchy.

They can dislike you for being narcissistic though OP. You seem to feel that there are a prescribed few behaviours that people are allowed to dislike others for. That's not how the world works.

Being bitchy goes with the territory of being a young female. Either being at the recieving end or giving end.

It's possible these girls are just fed up with you and can't relate to you. That's ok, they dont have to. They find comfort (however bitchy) in the commonality of their pop tunes and less than perfect lives. That's ok. They may view you as just irritating. That's a judgement on their part.

You breathe the rarified air of being young, good looking, gifted and successful with the opposite sex. But that's not what makes a great friend. A great friend is human with warts and all.

I am seriously not trying to put you down, but maybe to bring you down to earth a little!

JajaD

sunflower27 wrote: »

I can't really add too much more to Cheap Thrill's fantastic post.

You really come across quite negative. Liking poetry, being able to play an instrument, good-looking and boyfriends. So what? They arent the things that make someone a good friend.

I think you are a bit misguided with the jealousy aspect. They are not jealous of you. You appear jealous of them and the fact that your two closest friends choose to spend time with these girls that you seem to deem unworthy or beneath you.

It's like you came on here to say how amazing you are (and the fact you say you have never done anything wrong shows up quite clearly that you are NOT flawless) and question why your friends even bother with these other girls.

You dont have to be friends with all of them and the fact you arent doesnt mean they are jealous of you at all.

I was once friends with a girl who truly was so up her own arse it was incredible. She had boyfriends but very few friends. It wasnt that people were jealous of her, they just couldnt stand to be around her.

I dont know if that is what is happening here, but you really need to look at your attitudes.

And from the sounds of it, you have no ditching to do as they aren't contacting you anyway.

Try and not be so judgemental of people would be my advice

Well i suppose maybe i cant convey how much they are negative towards even their own friends. They themselves are not liked at all in my area. they are really slutty, but get no boyfriends, and the new girls are only hanging around with us because all of their usual friends stopped hanging around with them because they are so bitchy. Trust me, i am not big headed at all. I really am not. I am the kindest, loyal, caring friend you could have, honestly. I think that the 2 girls that i dont get on with, is simply because they are to dissimilar. But when i play gigs, the 2 bitchier ones never turn up (only my better 2 friends), when we are on nights out and if i have a new dress on or whatever, the 2 literally are the only ones who dont say "Ah you got a new dress".. they go out of their way to put me down constantly, even when i make effort with them. I think that the two girls that i get on with i shall continue to be really good friends with them, and the others who dont seem to be true friends i may just forget about them! I have lots of friends in town through music etc.. but its just nice to have a solid group of friends from your area.

Im sorry that i came across so snotty but i honestly am not. These girls have made me cry so many times out of pure bitchyness that it is hard to see what i have done wrong. Many people i know do not like these girls because they are mean so i think by writing this post i have just realised that i am too nice for them. the fact that i am posting this on boards shows that i care. i will stick to my true friends, and the rest can go bitch about themselves, cos i dont wanna be a part of a fake group who genuinely arent good friends to each other anyway. I think 5 good friends is better than 10 fake ones. So answer solved.

And, sorry again for coming across so up myself, if you knew me you would know that im not.

TashaMonster

I cannot get over the superior tone in your post. You repeatedly call these girls bitchy and yet YOU make comments on THEIR personalities, taste in clothes and music, employment and relationship status, popularity, etc.
The only examples you can give of their bitchiness is that they don't compliment you on your new dresses ! You're coming across as a bit judgemental and superficial here.

I'm sure that you are a lovely person and are probably just incompatible with these girls, not everyone in the world is meant to be friends. I think it'll be very easy for you to move on from these girls, I think that's best for you AND them.

One word of advice though, if you build yourself up to such high levels of perfection you may find that time and time again your friends will fall short,

JajaD wrote: »

I am the kindest, loyal, caring friend you could have, honestly.
i have just realised that i am too nice for them. the fact that i am posting this on boards shows that i care.

JajaD wrote: »

while i am more of the poetic, instrument player, into gigs, talking about interesting stuff. i am the only one who is clever enough... I am a very honest, goodlooking (i dont wanna seem boastful), nearly finished my degree, i sing and play loads of instruments, i have an amazing boyfriend and im really caring and individual. I really dont want to come across as stuck up or into myself or anything, i am really generous and do everything for any of the girls. I am always going to festivals, gigs, working etc. Are they jealous of me, or what is there problem? I literally have never done anything wrong in my whole life. I have never had trouble getting boyfriends and they do. I am seriously a nice person so they cant dislike me over being bitchy.

Eventually you may be left with no one that matches up to you.

JajaD

TashaMonster wrote: »

I cannot get over the superior tone in your post. You repeatedly call these girls bitchy and yet YOU make comments on THEIR personalities, taste in clothes and music, employment and relationship status, popularity, etc.
The only examples you can give of their bitchiness is that they don't compliment you on your new dresses ! You're coming across as a bit judgemental and superficial here.

I'm sure that you are a lovely person and are probably just incompatible with these girls, not everyone in the world is meant to be friends. I think it'll be very easy for you to move on from these girls, I think that's best for you AND them.

One word of advice though, if you build yourself up to such high levels of perfection you may find that time and time again your friends will fall short,






Eventually you may be left with no one that matches up to you.

You really dont know these people, therefore i regret asking for advice. I have came across all wrong here and never mentioned the fact that they try and score each others boyfriends, lie on a constant basis, cheat on their boyfriends, cause rows, the list is endless, the slag what the other girls wear, do, the list is just endless. I suppose i have just wasted my time on this, because you dont know who im talking about so it is pointless. Anyway, tis a pity i came across so arrogant.

the_syco

JajaD wrote: »

Hey. This is a long story ..sorry

Read your post, but not the replies.

Anyhoos, you are probably on Facebook. Do a purge of all the little bitches, and only leave your real friends. When making plans, goto gigs that you and your real mates like, and f**k the bitches if they don't like it.

You are hanging with the group. You can either stay with them, and bitch about them, whilst they bitch about each other, or cut them loose, and stay mates with your mates.

JajaD

the_syco wrote: »

Read your post, but not the replies.

Anyhoos, you are probably on Facebook. Do a purge of all the little bitches, and only leave your real friends. When making plans, goto gigs that you and your real mates like, and f**k the bitches if they don't like it.

You are hanging with the group. You can either stay with them, and bitch about them, whilst they bitch about each other, or cut them loose, and stay mates with your mates.

Yeah that is what i have begun to do. just making effort with my real friends. the others will lose out in the end i am sure. Thanks for your reply

Denerick

Reading your post, you strike me as somebody who puts too much effort into friendships. The moment that a friendship requires either work or effort is the moment that you should know it is doomed. You should want to spend time with a mate, not feel 'obliged' to. This texting nonsense frankly I don't understand, there is nothing more irritating that getting constant texts from people about frivolous things. I like to banter and chat face to face, not online and not via text.

Des Carter

OK I am in disbelief here. Are you for real. Seriously. Your main complaint about these girls is that they are bitches and bitch about people behind each others backs

JajaD wrote: »

yet bitches behind of their backs.

Ok fair enough but the thing is you then go on to write a whole 3 posts bitching about them.

I dont want to be too harsh but u seem to have a serious chip on your shoulder and to be honest I wouldnt have any thing to do with someone as bitchy as you. Just read over some of these quotes.

JajaD wrote: »

They are really girly girls who have the same fashion, same music(pop crap!) interest,

JajaD wrote: »

but like me, she is different to the others and realises that our group is full of jealous girls who bitch about one another constantly.

JajaD wrote: »

My friends make no effort with me, i have to do all the texting, and they literally ignore my boyfriend on nights out.

JajaD wrote: »

They are really really bitchy

JajaD wrote: »

they also really get on with the other girls here that i dont get on with and dont consider as nice people.

JajaD wrote: »

when i try and organise nights out the other bitchy girl literally tries to out-do me.

JajaD wrote: »

They are all single, most dont have jobs, or do anything remotely exciting.

JajaD wrote: »

I have never had trouble getting boyfriends and they do. I am seriously a nice person so they cant dislike me over being bitchy.

JajaD wrote: »

Any suggestions? I would love friends more like me, who are into going to gigs, playing music, being spontaneous and not boring, and friends who are not stuck up.

JajaD wrote: »

They themselves are not liked at all in my area.

JajaD wrote: »

they are really slutty,

JajaD wrote: »

but get no boyfriends,

JajaD wrote: »

and the new girls are only hanging around with us because all of their usual friends stopped hanging around with them because they are so bitchy.

JajaD wrote: »

But when i play gigs, the 2 bitchier ones never turn up

JajaD wrote: »

These girls have made me cry so many times out of pure bitchyness that it is hard to see what i have done wrong.

JajaD wrote: »

Many people i know do not like these girls because they are mean

JajaD wrote: »

i will stick to my true friends, and the rest can go bitch about themselves, cos i dont wanna be a part of a fake group who genuinely arent good friends to each other anyway

JajaD wrote: »

they try and score each others boyfriends,

JajaD wrote: »

lie on a constant basis,

JajaD wrote: »

cheat on their boyfriends,

JajaD wrote: »

cause rows,

JajaD wrote: »

the slag what the other girls wear,

I mean seriously YOU are calling THEM bitches and are putting them down for bitching behind eachothers backs?

well if thats the case then you should fit in perfectly.

Again Im sorry if this is harsh but the thing that gets to me the most is just how blind u are to your own flaws
I really hope you sort your problem out but I think the main issue is your attitude.

JajaD

Des Carter wrote: »

OK I am in disbelief here. Are you for real. Seriously. Your main complaint about these girls is that they are bitches and bitch about people behind each others backs



Ok fair enough but the thing is you then go on to write a whole 3 posts bitching about them.

I dont want to be too harsh but u seem to have a serious chip on your shoulder and to be honest I wouldnt have any thing to do with someone as bitchy as you. Just read over some of these quotes.















































I mean seriously YOU are calling THEM bitches and are putting them down for bitching behind eachothers backs?

well if thats the case then you should fit in perfectly.

Again Im sorry if this is harsh but the thing that gets to me the most is just how blind u are to your own flaws
I really hope you sort your problem out but I think the main issue is your attitude.

AGAIN, as i previously said in my previous post. that i shouldnt have come on here looking for advice as you dont know these girls or me. I know im a nice person. when i commented on what they were interested into i was merely pointing out differences as to give readers of the post a thorough understanding of the group. again, you dont know me or them so ill just end this thread.

Monkey Allen

Sounds to me like your friends are having lots of fun and you're not. People like being around others who are fun to be around as opposed to being second guessed by a 'friend'.

Your friendship with these girls has broken down. Find new friends with similar interests. You already know this but I'm guessing you're too afraid to try as you might find the advice from the previous posters to be quite accurate.

Being over nice to people can be unbearable to many.

JajaD

Monkey Allen wrote: »

Sounds to me like your friends are having lots of fun and you're not. People like being around others who are fun to be around as opposed to being second guessed by a 'friend'.

Your friendship with these girls has broken down. Find new friends with similar interests. You already know this but I'm guessing you're too afraid to try as you might find the advice from the previous posters to be quite accurate.

Being over nice to people can be unbearable to many.

No no, they are really boring. and are the type who put up facebook comments for everyone to see like "Oh my god, just had the most amazing night ever, didnt we girls " Now, id be on the night out with them, but theyd be only sitting in a corner of some club, taking pictures of themselves every 2 seconds just so they can post on facebook, therefore, not reallly having a good night. They try and make it look like they are having fun, but theyre all so boring and bitchy. they spend the night commenting on one girls dress when shes in the toilet. And i just have to bare and grin it. Trust me when i say, me and my 2 better mates are sound, and all the 'new' members of the groups are not. I know them. I was out in town with other gig friends i have and the difference is astounding. I have had enough of them. I have told the girls that i love in the group that im not hanging around with that group anymore and i only wanna stay friends with them (the better mates of mine). We are going for a meal tomorrow and drinks, just the 3 of us. Everything has worked out well. I feel i have cut ties with some not nice people that i have happened to get involved in but was afraid of losing my true friends, which i havent. So i was right in making the jump.

Case closed

zxcvbnm1

To be honest op, you sound like a complete pain in the hole. Other posters have also picked up on this. We are all not saying it by accident.

I know you keep saying how in fact you are really sound.
But a lot of posters here don't think so.

You sound incredibly judgemental. Even if they are idiots( which to be honest, given that it comes from you I would take with a pinch of salt) then so what ?
I don't see why you feel the need to come on and bitch about them so much. Why not just be cool and get on with your life?
Op - obviously you are quite young going by your post but even so...in think your behaviour is very poor. It certainly isn't inn any way cool.

And also, you have put a lot of pressure on the people you like in the group. From now on they must organize events around this fact that you have effectively demanded you don't spend time with these other people.
That's just hassle for these other girls. They aren't going to appreciate that.

Basically you have put them in a position whereby they must choose who to spend nights out with. Keep an eye on that over the next couple of months. Don't be one bit surprised if they dont pick you.

JajaD

zxcvbnm1 wrote: »

To be honest op, you sound like a complete pain in the hole. Other posters have also picked up on this. We are all not saying it by accident.

I know you keep saying how in fact you are really sound.
But a lot of posters here don't think so.

You sound incredibly judgemental. Even if they are idiots( which to be honest, given that it comes from you I would take with a pinch of salt) then so what ?
I don't see why you feel the need to come on and bitch about them so much. Why not just be cool and get on with your life?
Op - obviously you are quite young going by your post but even so...in think your behaviour is very poor. It certainly isn't inn any way cool.

And also, you have put a lot of pressure on the people you like in the group. From now on they must organize events around this fact that you have effectively demanded you don't spend time with these other people.
That's just hassle for these other girls. They aren't going to appreciate that.

Basically you have put them in a position whereby they must choose who to spend nights out with. Keep an eye on that over the next couple of months. Don't be one bit surprised if they dont pick you.

Well it so happens that all the girls want to come out with me tonight, without the said 'idiots', so i musnt be far wrong. Sometimes, stories cant be told unless you know the situation and this story is one of them as i have mentioned already. Sometimes it takes one person to stand up against idiots to make a difference and to end bullying/bitchy behavior and should not be ridiculed as being the bad one. Again, you dont know me, or the others mentioned here so its hard for you to make any accurate judgment.

zxcvbnm1

JajaD wrote: »

Well it so happens that all the girls want to come out with me tonight, without the said 'idiots', so i musnt be far wrong. Sometimes, stories cant be told unless you know the situation and this story is one of them as i have mentioned already. Sometimes it takes one person to stand up against idiots to make a difference and to end bullying/bitchy behavior and should not be ridiculed as being the bad one. Again, you dont know me, or the others mentioned here so its hard for you to make any accurate judgment.

You keep saying how we don't know the situation and you and therefore implying we can't comment. But you have come on here and outlined the situation. Admittedly that's all we have to go on but we have to assume you included the main points.

Yes - they agreed to go out tonight with you. It's just one night. Keep an eye out over the next couple of months. You have brought hassle into their lives whether you admit it or not.
Forcing people to choose between friends is no fun and entirely unnecessary. No body likes that hassle.

You accuse them of bullying yet here you are behaving in a terrible way. You really are coming across very poorly and very bitchy whether you care to admit it or not.

Op - I don't expect you to change your mind, but generally most people here have disagreed with your behaviour.

So - why is that?

JajaD

zxcvbnm1 wrote: »

You keep saying how we don't know the situation and you and therefore implying we can't comment. But you have come on here and outlined the situation. Admittedly that's all we have to go on but we have to assume you included the main points.

Yes - they agreed to go out tonight with you. It's just one night. Keep an eye out over the next couple of months. You have brought hassle into their lives whether you admit it or not.
Forcing people to choose between friends is no fun and entirely unnecessary. No body likes that hassle.

You accuse them of bullying yet here you are behaving in a terrible way. You really are coming across very poorly and very bitchy whether you care to admit it or not.

Op - I don't expect you to change your mind, but generally most people here have disagreed with your behaviour.

So - why is that?

At what point did i mention that i made anyone chose? I dont believe i am forcing anybody to chose. The girls i like, are the friends ive known for longer, so we hang out now together, then when they want to see the others they do. Its that simple. Nobody is being forced to do anything. AND i also believe i did mention saying i probably shouldnt have come onto boards.ie and that it was probably pointless, i have mentioned all these points already, thats if you've not taken the time to read all the posts. I have all the same friends as before, just that ive axed the 2 idiots. Not a complicated thing, or bad thing ive done. Just done a life spring clean. I havent hurt anyones feelings like they have, have never spoken about people they way to do their faces and behind their backs. I have never been jealous of anyone, or tried to put them down in front of people, i have always been there for people when i was needed. Could you point out at what point i was the bad one here because you seem to know me better than i do?

zxcvbnm1

You have completely made them choose. You said in a previous post that you have told your friends you won't be hanging out with these other people in future.
Which means from now on if there is a big night going on whereby normally everyone is in attendance, they will now be conscious as to how you react knowing the other girls will be there.
It's a headwreck for them. How can you not see that?

Seriously - ive been there in the past and raying to manage nights ensuring everyone will be happy is just a headache. And I certainly resented the people that created the situation for me.

I have read all the posts by the way. And you're opinions don't seem that popular in case you haven't noticed.

And besides - I don't fully understand the problem. You said in your original post that your friends make no effort with you and you have to do all the texting.
So quite clearly they don't want anything to do with you anyway.

Kablamo!

JajaD wrote: »

Well it so happens that all the girls want to come out with me tonight, without the said 'idiots', so i musnt be far wrong. Sometimes, stories cant be told unless you know the situation and this story is one of them as i have mentioned already. Sometimes it takes one person to stand up against idiots to make a difference and to end bullying/bitchy behavior and should not be ridiculed as being the bad one. Again, you dont know me, or the others mentioned here so its hard for you to make any accurate judgment.

Wow! Now that's solved, want to move on to ending world hunger?
Seriously, listen to yourself.
All you are doing is putting these people down, and ACTIVELY BITCHING ABOUT THEM BY CALLING THEM BITCHY AND IDIOTIC.
I think they've made a lucky escape, because god knows I would not like to be friends with someone with as large a superiority complex as you seem to have.
You CANNOT judge people by their level of education, their taste in music, if they have kids or not, or how they like to spend their spare time.

Kablamo!

JajaD wrote: »

I havent hurt anyones feelings like they have, have never spoken about people they way to do their faces and behind their backs. I have never been jealous of anyone, or tried to put them down in front of people, i have always been there for people when i was needed. Could you point out at what point i was the bad one here because you seem to know me better than i do?

Send them a link to this thread there so.

Ickle Magoo

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Be aware that off-topic and unhelpful posting can earn you a ban from this forum.

Please take the time to read the forum rules in the charter and abide by them.

Many thanks.
Ickle

LegacyUser

@ OP

Everyone is having a go at you and you haven't helped yourself. I don't doubt that you try to be virtuous but you have allowed yourself to come off as judgmental. I think you sound a cut above some of your mates but you can't judge them by your standards. I know how much some people can organize themselves into self- justifying groups The lads and ladettes seem to own this world and there's not much you can do about it except exercising your right to go elsewhere to seek more stimulating company.

These people weren't born to please so try to tone the judgmentality down.

amdublin

If you don't like them then just stop hanging around with them.

It sounds like they don't like you and are trying to stop hanging around with you (not texting you etc).

I would also suggest you read over this thread:
how do you think you across from all your comments?

sollar

OP if friends make you feel unhappy or bad about yourself then they are not great friends. Sometimes we grow apart from people its important to know when a friendshp is coming to an end and quietly move on.