jury duty to expensive

tipptom

My wife has been called for jury duty,would have no problem doing it as i myself am unemployed but the courthouse is 25 miles away and this would cost a lot of money in our 16 year old bucket which requires an oil tanker in close proximity at all times.
We just would not have this money at the moment, when shopping and bills are paid there is zilch left,we have 4 children and need the bucket to pick these up.Is this excusable enough reason for the registar.

Kosseegan

No.

Fey!

Why don't you outline all of the above in a letter/phonecall to the court clerk/registrar? They can then give you a definitive answer.

tipptom

Kosseegan wrote: »

No.

Whats your expertise in this area that you can be so sure of this and if you were my soliciter your rudeness would be excused only if i were paying you per word.

tipptom

Fey! wrote: »

Why don't you outline all of the above in a letter/phonecall to the court clerk/registrar? They can then give you a definitive answer.

Thanks,we will do that,will keep you posted.

coylemj

tipptom wrote: »

Is this excusable enough reason for the registar.

Kosseegan wrote: »

No.

tipptom wrote: »

Whats your expertise in this area that you can be so sure of this and if you were my soliciter your rudeness would be excused only if i were paying you per word.

You asked a 'yes or no' question, don't confuse brevity with rudeness.

If the guy in McDonalds asks you 'do you want fries with that?' and you reply 'no', is that rudeness?

tommy21

tipptom wrote: »

Whats your expertise in this area that you can be so sure of this and if you were my soliciter your rudeness would be excused only if i were paying you per word.

But he is not your solicitor - if you want legal advise go and get one (I don't mean this in a bad way, just you pay for what you get and in this case you have paid nothing! Plus the mods will lock us all up for giving legal advice ). As far as I remember when I was called for jury duty, one of the stipulations was undue economic hardship, but your best bet is to call as someone mentioned (I got out of it due to college exams, but was actually very willing to go to see what the whole process was like).

source

coylemj wrote: »

If the guy in McDonalds asks you 'do you want fries with that?' and you reply 'no', is that rudeness?

Actually yes it is rude, the common polite reply is "No thank you".

Op contact the clerk and they will tell you if this is an acceptable excuse.

tipptom

coylemj wrote: »

You asked a 'yes or no' question, don't confuse brevity with rudeness.

If the guy in McDonalds asks you 'do you want fries with that?' and you reply 'no', is that rudeness?

It certainly would be rude to reply in that way, and i have shown a lot of people his reply and most have read an underlying current to his dismissive reply,he could at least have the courtesy to lay out why ha can be so sure with his one word dismissal.

MagicSean

An underlying current to two letters?

tipptom

foinse wrote: »

Actually yes it is rude, the common polite reply is "No thank you".

Op contact the clerk and they will tell you if this is an acceptable excuse.

Keep you posted.

Kosseegan

tipptom wrote: »

Whats your expertise in this area that you can be so sure of this and if you were my soliciter your rudeness would be excused only if i were paying you per word.

This is an annoymous forum and you are relying on it for advice. You go on with an unbelievable rant and then want a big discussion. Sorry, I don't buy your story and I think it is a lot of bull****. I don't think the courts service will be impressed either. I gave a definite answer to your question. You don't like it so you complain. If I had said yes, would you react in the same way. I think that to do what has been suggested by other posters is ill advised. In any event how come you did not think of that your self before seeking advice on an annoynmous forum?
There are ways of getting out of jury service but I am not going to go into them here.

mikemac

Hope this isn't Tipperary, we don't have crime in Tipp :cool:

If you wish to make an application to be excused, this is at the discretion of the County Registrar and you should state your reasons as fully as possible on form J2. You should enclose any certificates or documents in support of your application.

Correspondence
If you have to write to the County Registrar, please quote the number shown at the top right of the front page of the summons, where his/her name and address are also shown.

From courts.ie and seems you've done this already

tipptom

Kosseegan wrote: »

This is an annoymous forum and you are relying on it for advice. You go on with an unbelievable rant and then want a big discussion. Sorry, I don't buy your story and I think it is a lot of bull****. I don't think the courts service will be impressed either. I gave a definite answer to your question. You don't like it so you complain. If I had said yes, would you react in the same way. I think that to do what has been suggested by other posters is ill advised. In any event how come you did not think of that your self before seeking advice on an annoynmous forum?
There are ways of getting out of jury service but I am not going to go into them here.

Unbelievable,why didnt you just say in the first place then that you thought my story was bullsh*t and what part do you not believe,that i am unemployed or that we could not afford the petrol money alone for a 65 mile journey each day.

MrPudding

tipptom wrote: »

Unbelievable,why didnt you just say in the first place then that you thought my story was bullsh*t and what part do you not believe,that i am unemployed or that we could not afford the petrol money alone for a 65 mile journey each day.

Please update us with what steps you took, how it was handled and what the result was. Personally, I think that jury duty is important and should be done if at all possible. At the same time, I would hope that the court services would take peoples circumstances into consideration and if the duty would cause undue hardship allow people to avoid having to serve.

I can see that there might be a fear that people might take advantage of such a "loophole" but I would like to think the courts would have the intelligence required to separate genuine claims of hardship from those that simply don't want to serve.

MrP

tipptom

MrPudding wrote: »

Please update us with what steps you took, how it was handled and what the result was. Personally, I think that jury duty is important and should be done if at all possible. At the same time, I would hope that the court services would take peoples circumstances into consideration and if the duty would cause undue hardship allow people to avoid having to serve.

I can see that there might be a fear that people might take advantage of such a "loophole" but I would like to think the courts would have the intelligence required to separate genuine claims of hardship from those that simply don't want to serve.

MrP

Agree100%,would love to see the whole thing in action,but if this went on for two weeks it would cost us around 180€ ,you wouldnt believe the lenghts we go through at the moment to double up on journeys so we can get everything done on the one trip and save on petrol.

tipptom

Just a quick update for the guys who believed my story and who came back with constructive replies,"I am pleased to inform you that i am able to excuse you from jury service on this occasion.Accordingly your attendance in court on foot of the summons seved on you will not now be necessary."
Thanks guys ,sincerly hope the next time we are called we will be in a much better economic position to be able to do a lot of things we used to be able to do including court duty which i would love to do.