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No motivation to make money!

  • 22-01-2011 2:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    I have absolutely no motivation to make money. I have barely enough money to survive, on the dole and getting help from my parents. I just do not FEEL that I need money, or what I need money for. What will I do with the money if I have excess money, I ask myself. It is like I have a mental block when it comes to money.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭SparkyTech


    Think of it this way, Is the prospect of having financial independence from your parents and the freedom to splurge on something nice without thinking twice about the pennies a good incentive? You have to want it and work hard for it, and its hard in the current climate, but if you have a will there is always a way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    The question is, what are you doing with your time? Writing a novel? Studying? Volunteering?

    Or are you just playing video games and watching porn on the net, etc.

    If it's the later, think of getting a job as a way to learn a skill, and force some of the discipline that you don't have.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 2,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoGiE


    Hi All,

    I have absolutely no motivation to make money. I have barely enough money to survive, on the dole and getting help from my parents. I just do not FEEL that I need money, or what I need money for. What will I do with the money if I have excess money, I ask myself. It is like I have a mental block when it comes to money.

    Are you an adult? The drivel you've posted is the kind of thing you would expect to hear from a child and a lazy selfish one at that. Your parents are not there to hand you money, what do you plan to do when their gone?

    You think you don't need money because you're used to having it handed to you by the government and your folks. Money makes the world go round. Food, heat, clothes and a roof over your head.

    It's time to reevaluate your life. Where do you see yourself in ten years time? College, travel a relationship? They cost money, so set yourself some goals and grow up a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    It is like I have a mental block when it comes to money.

    That would seem to be the case, Op.

    Perhaps your "mental block" is not so much about money, but more about responsibility? You have not indicated your age, but would I be right to conjecture that you are very young, not yet 21?

    Perhaps you have not yet come to terms with the need to provide for yourself?


    Be at peace,

    Z


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Hi All,

    I have absolutely no motivation to make money. I have barely enough money to survive, on the dole and getting help from my parents. I just do not FEEL that I need money, or what I need money for. What will I do with the money if I have excess money, I ask myself. It is like I have a mental block when it comes to money.

    Try living on ZERO money, and you'll soon see that you do need it to get by. I have often heard people saying money doesn't interest them, but I'd like to see them live without it.
    If you just want to make enough to get by, that's fine too, there's nothing wrong with that, but would it not feel better to be financially independent..?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Here's an idea - move out. And stop taking hand-outs from your parents.

    You'll soon realise why money is important, as the dole will only go so far to cover rent, bills, food, public transport etc.

    Do you drive OP? Or do you eat well, dress well, keep fit, live comfortably, travel, socialise, have a savings account for emergencies or future investments? Do you want to live independently eventually and perhaps own a house, drive a nice car, pursue your hobbies, see the world, settle down with a partner?

    If your answer is yes to any of these things, then you need to start making some money. The longer you rely on your parents' funds and evade financial responsibility, the harder it's going to be when you eventually have to make it on your own, which is a reality for everyone in life, unless you're either royalty or physically/mentally disabled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭zxcvbnm1


    Ya - this post is fairly pathetic nonsense alright. You don't want any more money other than the money that other people give you?

    Do you have any self respect?
    Maybe you should try to stop being a leech for a while? How about you go out and earn your own money instead of expecting other people to do it for you?

    I'm guessing you must be quite young to make a post like that. Even still though - it is drivel as some other poster mentioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    What will I do with the money if I have excess money, I ask myself.

    Give it back to your parents?


    or me..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    The problem isn't your worry about excess money.. The problem is you are extremely lazy and you're happy to live off other people's efforts.

    If you like, PM me your details and I will report you to the social welfare office with a copy of your post. It might solve your problems with motivation and your adversity to accumulating wealth when you have zero income.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    OP. Would you be happy scrounging from you parents and the government the rest of your life? Thats NO way to live your life.

    You need money to keep a roof over your head, put food on your table, clothes on your back, electricity to power all your stuff and heating to keep you warm.

    Its fine now to say that you dont need money now because you are probably living at home where you parents pay for all that stuff.

    When your not living at home and you have excess money (If your lucky) after paying bills etc. you will have no problems spending it or saving it.

    Have you ever worked op?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Monkey Allen


    Well I'd say I'm thankful that I live in Sydney and not footing the bill for your laziness but there's people with your attitude all over the world.

    I think its hilarious that someone without a job is afraid of excess money. You might go nuts and buy yourself a scalextrix (sp?).

    You have a responsibility to yourself, your parents and your country to earn money. Theres people in your position due to the mistakes of others. But your attitude suggests you're adding to a serious economical problem simply because you couldnt be arsed. What a scummy attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    As a matter of fact- I am doing volontary work on a full-time basis, and I also study. I am just lazy when itcomes to making money- I help all my neighbours and do loads of volontary work, as already mentioned.
    The problem is I am AFRAID of excess money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP here again.

    It is probably relevant to mention that I heve worked in my life, but I have never been able to save money. Whenever I have had money I have squandered it and sometimes I have spent too much of it on drink- making me feel unhappy. I just think I am more happy being poor. If I had more money than I needed in my bankaccount I would feel very nervous, and possibly guilty. I think that may be the root of the problem, money makes me feel guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    You're not materialistic which is cool. Just find out what your interest in life is and figure out how you can make money from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    Get a job and give the excess money to charities. It's great that you're not materialistic, why not use it as a force for good in the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I kind of relate to the feeling guilty thing. I'd be happy to win up to maybe 2 or 3 million for myself but after that I'd start to feel like I was hoarding far too much of the world's wealth for myself. I think winning 100 million in the euromillions would mess my head up. Still though, its nice to have even 300 or 400 euro a week disposable income after your main bills are met,and as other posters have pointed out, having ZERO money isn't much fun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    OP here again.

    It is probably relevant to mention that I heve worked in my life, but I have never been able to save money. Whenever I have had money I have squandered it and sometimes I have spent too much of it on drink- making me feel unhappy. I just think I am more happy being poor. If I had more money than I needed in my bankaccount I would feel very nervous, and possibly guilty. I think that may be the root of the problem, money makes me feel guilty.

    I'll take this with a pinch of salt. Because when you finally enter the real world you'll notice after bills you might barely have enough to get by on. does that thought make you happy?

    If you can afford it, working part-time might be an option. Or you could donate the excess money you expect to have on the voluntary organisations you help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    All I am saying is I have a mental block when it comes to money- I am afraid of it- I need help.

    Can someone please offer advice that are constructive and stop critisising me.

    I know that in thereal world I wont have a huge excess, but I am afraid Iwill never enter the real world due to my painful hangups and mental blockage when ity comes to making money....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Monkey Allen


    OP here again.

    It is probably relevant to mention that I heve worked in my life, but I have never been able to save money. Whenever I have had money I have squandered it and sometimes I have spent too much of it on drink- making me feel unhappy. I just think I am more happy being poor. If I had more money than I needed in my bankaccount I would feel very nervous, and possibly guilty. I think that may be the root of the problem, money makes me feel guilty.
    you spend your money. But you still have to pay your way in life. Somethings have to be paid for such as street lighting, police, healthcare etc. You're getting these for free and, from the look of your original post, its because you're afraid of money? No deal, get a job. Then work out how to save.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭thefeatheredcat


    Hi All,

    I have absolutely no motivation to make money. I have barely enough money to survive, on the dole and getting help from my parents. I just do not FEEL that I need money, or what I need money for. What will I do with the money if I have excess money, I ask myself. It is like I have a mental block when it comes to money.
    As a matter of fact- I am doing volontary work on a full-time basis, and I also study. I am just lazy when itcomes to making money- I help all my neighbours and do loads of volontary work, as already mentioned.
    The problem is I am AFRAID of excess money.
    OP here again.

    It is probably relevant to mention that I heve worked in my life, but I have never been able to save money. Whenever I have had money I have squandered it and sometimes I have spent too much of it on drink- making me feel unhappy. I just think I am more happy being poor. If I had more money than I needed in my bankaccount I would feel very nervous, and possibly guilty. I think that may be the root of the problem, money makes me feel guilty.
    All I am saying is I have a mental block when it comes to money- I am afraid of it- I need help.

    Can someone please offer advice that are constructive and stop critisising me.

    I know that in thereal world I wont have a huge excess, but I am afraid Iwill never enter the real world due to my painful hangups and mental blockage when ity comes to making money....

    Money is generally seen as providing a basic need of a basic security i.e. financial security and perceived as being a means to have access to providing for other basic needs such as food, shelter, clothing etc. Once these basic needs are taken care of, money can be used for other things. Previous to money and currency was a system of bartering i.e. exchanging a skill or item for a basic need.

    If you have all the basic needs of food and shelter (and bills) taken care of by someone else, then the money that you have, which you may not necessarily need, can be used to increase your purchasing power via this disposable income.

    You can choose to buy things and stuff with it (either necessary or unnecessary materialistic items);
    to use it to allow you to travel (buses, trains, taxis, ships, planes) thus broadening your horizons;
    finance other aspects to enjoy life i.e. money pays for swimming, gym, leisure activities, entertainment;
    to use it to fulfil ambitions, dreams and aspirations and upskilling and investing in yourself and fulfilling the human that you are.

    You can of course, choose to feather your nest for a rainy day or be generous with it to others (gifts to family and friends, enriching their lives if they cannot finance their basic needs, charity donations). You actually have an interesting option to help others too, perhaps by helping people you know in financial difficulty. If you had enormous amounts of excess money and had no idea what to do with it, you have these options, but as well as that you have an option to invest in businesses, stocks, shares, ideas, projects and donations.

    Having money shouldn't feel you to cause guilt - it should only cause guilt if there's absolutely nothing you can spend it on or you are only spending it on yourself but not constructively but wastefully. There's many options to spend it on, that need not be materialistic such as non for profit organisations and social enterprises that help and benefit others.

    Hope that makes sense and helps somewhat! Maybe have a read of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (and other related psychology) as that's pretty much what I'm talking about here, but maybe not explaining it right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Monkey Allen


    All I am saying is I have a mental block when it comes to money- I am afraid of it- I need help.

    Can someone please offer advice that are constructive and stop critisising me.

    I know that in thereal world I wont have a huge excess, but I am afraid Iwill never enter the real world due to my painful hangups and mental blockage when ity comes to making money....
    You were given sound advice. get a job, learn how to control money. But definitely, get a job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭eddison


    Hi All,

    I have absolutely no motivation to make money. I have barely enough money to survive, on the dole and getting help from my parents. I just do not FEEL that I need money, or what I need money for. What will I do with the money if I have excess money, I ask myself. It is like I have a mental block when it comes to money.

    Hi dude, or dudette,

    Money is linked to ones view of yourself. It is linked to ones self worth. But you may be the most confident person in Ireland, but money is usually linked to self worth. Maybe that is not the case with you- ok so be it.

    If there is a grain of truth in the above, then you should work on your self esteem, or self respect. Try to live in the present moment, and concentrate on all the positive qualities you have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yes I do think it is a self-worth issue in my case.
    I need to work on that. Thanks for all the replies, I am not materialistic that is true, but I want to want money to expand my horizons and just be more of the person I want to be- it is so hard not being able to want money, when I want to want it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    Well, for conventional personal finance advice with a simplicity/anti-consumerist bent, "Your Money or Your Life" is excellent.


    If your inklings are more unconventional, you could investigate alternative living set-ups - i.e. find you some sort of commune or traveling around Ireland doing WWOOF or something. Farming is an excellent way to do a lot of hard work with little financial reward.


    You could also turn volunteering into a full time job, getting a job at a charity/non-profit in Ireland, or getting on the path to becoming an international aid worker or similar. As someone who worked in a charity for years, I assure you won't have excess income.


    Finally, if you're of the religious persuasion, and really want a life without excess, you could always become a catholic/buddhist/etc. monk ;)


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