Happy Independence Day!!!

paky

Just would like to wish everyone on boards.ie a Happy Independence Day!
Today is the 92nd anniversary of Irish Independence!

PomBear

Partial Independance unfortunately but still a good reason to celebrate!


Also all people voting in the next election, in my opinion, should read the democratic programme of the First Dáil before voting.

paky

I think its time ireland started to celebrate independence day in some form or another! Its time to re-establish our national sovereignty and it begins today!

Wolfe Tone

Hopefully one day we will be properly independent.

zig

but you dont celebrate it based on the beginning of the war of independence surely? I would have thought the signing of the treaty would be more appropriate (well relatively anyway)

zig

Im by no means a hard core nationalist, but Wolfe tone does have a point, if we are going to celebrate independence , we are celebrating the reversal of British occupation in Ireland. This really wont be done until the north is officially out of the United Kingdom.

Itd be like if just Cork won independence and the rest of the country didnt. I dont think they'd be considering Ireland independent.

KeithAFC

Congratulutions.

DoesNotCompute

paky wrote: »

Just would like to wish everyone on boards.ie a Happy Independence Day!
Today is the 92nd anniversary of Irish Independence!

I'd love to celebrate Independence Day with ya, but unfortunately I'm in the pocket of the EU/IMF for the next 70 years or so!

Mongarra

Maybe by 2019 some government will have been able to organise a committee to draw up a programme of events to celebrate the centenary. But I doubt it!

KeithAFC

Our 100 is in 2021. Looking forward to it.

paky

KeithAFC wrote: »

Our 100 is in 2021. Looking forward to it.

nobody cares keith

Coillte_Bhoy

KeithAFC wrote: »

Our 100 is in 2021. Looking forward to it.

Looking forward to the celebration of the establishment of a sectarian state?? Ye wont even exist by then.

lugha

zig wrote: »

Im by no means a hard core nationalist, but Wolfe tone does have a point, if we are going to celebrate independence , we are celebrating the reversal of British occupation in Ireland. This really wont be done until the north is officially out of the United Kingdom.

Itd be like if just Cork won independence and the rest of the country didnt. I dont think they'd be considering Ireland independent.

Ironic. Our independence is currently severely diminished due to our deficit, which came about because we spent and spend money we don’t have on stuff we cannot afford.
And you reason that if we indulge in the ultimate vanity project of a UI, with its accompanying price tag of several billion per annum, we will have greater independence?

(And NI isn't "occupied" Stop being silly)

KeithAFC

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Looking forward to the establishment of a sectarian state?? Ye wont even exist by then.

Well we have fought throughout the years to keep our British sovereignty. So it will be a good time to celebrate.

Cathalh

We werent independent until April 1949 when we became a republic

Dirk Gently

Cathalh wrote: »

when we became a republic

Debatable tbh. In theory perhaps we are, but theocracy, tribalism, clientelism and cronyism are more practical terms to describe our independent history to date. I look forward to a day when we do have a genuine accountable democracy which we can call our republic. I think the best part of 100 years of looking after our own affairs is long enough to finally start getting our act together.

LordSutch

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Hopefully one day we will be properly independent.

We will be 'properly independent' once again in a few years time, after the IMF have handed back the keys to the safe

zig

lugha wrote: »

Ironic. Our independence is currently severely diminished due to our deficit, which came about because we spent and spend money we don’t have on stuff we cannot afford.
And you reason that if we indulge in the ultimate vanity project of a UI, with its accompanying price tag of several billion per annum, we will have greater independence?

(And NI isn't "occupied" Stop being silly)

your drawing conclusions about from my post, it may have come across a bit pro UI, but it wasnt meant to. all I meant was that if we did have a sort 'independence from UK' day celebration, it would be sort of false.


regards your NI isnt occupied statement, well I guess thats what all the hassle has been about for the last 40 years, the argument over whether thats a true statement or not, not to mention the 100s of years before the war of independence regarding the rest of the country.

steelcityblues

We don't have a sovereign State right now, let alone independence.

Spare me the celebrations.

ISAW

steelcityblues wrote: »

We don't have a sovereign State right now, let alone independence.

Spare me the celebrations.

So you are saying anyone who hasn't totally paid off a mortgage does not own their house? You opposed to the banking and credit system on the basis that owing money means you don't actually own something until it is fully paid off. Such thinking is against the creation of the modern economy. You are aware that while there is about 85 billion in sovereign debt there is over 1000 billion in Irish private debt?

steelcityblues

ISAW wrote: »

So you are saying anyone who hasn't totally paid off a mortgage does not own their house? You opposed to the banking and credit system on the basis that owing money means you don't actually own something until it is fully paid off. Such thinking is against the creation of the modern economy. You are aware that while there is about 85 billion in sovereign debt there is over 1000 billion in Irish private debt?

Did you take a break from the real world last November? :rolleyes:

Stabshauptmann

No its not.

We do not have a simple independence story like the yanks, so we dont have an independence day.

Ireland declared independence 24 April 1916 (but what authority had the Provisional Government)
Ireland again declared independence on 21 January 1919 (by a majority vote of Irish MPs).
Ireland was granted home rule on 3 May 1921 (surprisingly few people are aware of the political entity Southern Ireland)
Ireland was granted dominion status 9 December 1921
Ireland
Ireland once again declared itself an independent (32 country) republic on 29 December 1937, by adopting a new constitution
Ireland once again declared itself an independent republic on 21 December 1948 (with the passing of the Republic of Ireland act which came into force on 18 April 1949).
The Republic of Ireland was recognised by the UK on 2 June 1949.

So to be correct, Irish Independence - that is full independence for the 26 counties, did not come into force until 1949.

But is that a day worth celebrating? When some paper was signed, changing nothing important in anyones life?

We celebrate Easter Monday, not because of what happened that day, but because of what started.