will i lose weight??

Johnaldinioh

I have recently joined the maradyke for three months after gaining a bit of weight since giving up fags 6 months ago. I am 6 foot and 14 and a half stone. 21 years old. Currently im going to the gym 5 times a week and will spend a hour each time. 10 mins on treadmill speed 10km. 2000m on rowing machine level 10. then i do weights for a bit and go do another 10 minutes on the treadmill. My diet is ok i think ill give an example of what i had yesterday. breakfast - boiled egg , two slices of toast and cup of tea. Lunch- bowl of beef soup, two white rolls with butter and a pint of water. Dinner- boiled rice with mushroom sauce. Snack - 2 rice crispie bars. Not sure if im eating too much or too little any help would be much appreciated . Also what is the best way to lose weight around the waist because this is the main place i have that extra bit. What do you think would be a healthy weight for me ??? Thanks in advance:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Soarer

I'm new to all this fitness/gym stuff (as you'd easily tell if you saw me!:o), but looking at what you're eating, I reckon if you made your toast and rolls brown instead of white, you wouldn't be going far wrong with what you're doing.

Someone with a bit more experience will be along soon, and they'll be able to help you out better than I can though.
Best of luck.

ronaneire

Very little protein in your diet. Cut out the white bread and rice and use wholemeals instead. No fruit or veg in it either?

walshb

Johnaldinioh wrote: »

I have recently joined the maradyke for three months after gaining a bit of weight since giving up fags 6 months ago. I am 6 foot and 14 and a half stone. 21 years old. Currently im going to the gym 5 times a week and will spend a hour each time. 10 mins on treadmill speed 10km. 2000m on rowing machine level 10. then i do weights for a bit and go do another 10 minutes on the treadmill. My diet is ok i think ill give an example of what i had yesterday. breakfast - boiled egg , two slices of toast and cup of tea. Lunch- bowl of beef soup, two white rolls with butter and a pint of water. Dinner- boiled rice with mushroom sauce. Snack - 2 rice crispie bars. Not sure if im eating too much or too little any help would be much appreciated . Also what is the best way to lose weight around the waist because this is the main place i have that extra bit. What do you think would be a healthy weight for me ??? Thanks in advance:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

No such thing as best advice or perfection. I would simply try and cut down on what you ingest during the day. Along with moderate exercise most days, this should see loss. There is no magic bullet.

Do try stop eating after say 7. Eating late at night doesn't allow for the best breakdown of foods. Activity allows for the best breakdown.

Bolied eggs in morning are very filling and nutritious and great for staving off the hunger. Do not overkill on liquid, (water). Many people tend to drink loads, and it ends up lying in them. Water too puts weight on. Drink when thirsty, simple.

Also, don't think that just because you are eating helathy foods and exercising that weight should be lost.

What I mean, train an hour a day, eat 3 apples, 3 bananas, 4 pears, wholewheat pasta etc etc etc. It's all quantitly that is being ingested.

Limit the amount of food entering the system. You eat 20 apples a day, you won't lose weight, you will gain weight.

Psychologically do not cut out ANY food type completely. You like chocolate, keep it, just lessen the intake.
You try to delete it and you will end up going mental....

Don't think you said if you were male or female? So, I can't really comment on what weight you
should be, or what range you should be in.

Assuming male, average build and aged 21 at 6 feet, I would say 11-12 stones

mailliw

I agree with ronaneire. Try and eat more protein and fewer carbs, or even switch to brown rolls and brown toast.
I lost 35lb in 2 months with regular, intense workouts and on this diet:
Breakfast: 2 eggs, 3 rashers
Lunch: 4-8oz protein (beef duck lamb fish etc) in a green salad
Dinner: 8-16oz protein with lots of vegetables
Obviously this is probably a bit extreme for you, as I was 6 foot tall and 18.5 stone but hopefully it helps somewhat

mailliw

Also, in terms of ideal weight, I don't believe such a thing exists. It depends on gender, age, build, and muscle weight/fat weight. For example, I weight 200lb now, which a lot of people would call overweight but my body fat percentage is 13.6%, which no one would call anywhere near unhealthy. Weight isn't the real enemy, bodyfat is.

Johnaldinioh

ronaneire wrote: »

Very little protein in your diet. Cut out the white bread and rice and use wholemeals instead. No fruit or veg in it either?

Im not really a massive fan of fruit to be honest . I would maybe have a banana in porridge and usually have a good lot of veg. What effect does not so much protein have on you as i feel if im having well say a big steak or something that its putting alot on me.
Another question . When on the treadmill i get a bit of a pain in my lower back . Whats up with this ????

Moneymaker

You're going to the gym too much. 5 times a week is WAY too much. You need to have rest days to let your body recover. 3 times a week, coupled with a good diet is plenty. You'll burn yourself out if you go 5 times a week, trust me.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news2/healthy_food_chart.htm

That's a pretty accurate chart of what you should be eating. If you have to eat bread, stick to wholewheat.

ronaneire

Johnaldinioh wrote: »

Im not really a massive fan of fruit to be honest . I would maybe have a banana in porridge and usually have a good lot of veg. What effect does not so much protein have on you as i feel if im having well say a big steak or something that its putting alot on me.
Another question . When on the treadmill i get a bit of a pain in my lower back . Whats up with this ????

Same point as moneymaker said, you need rest days.
Losing weight and even gaining weight is down to what we eat. The body needs protein to repair tissues and to grow muscle.

http://www.build-muscle-and-burn-fat.com/protein-facts.html

Instead of steak try chicken or fish. Less fat in lean chicken.

If you are getting a pain in your lower back speak to a gym instructor, and or maybe reduce the amount of times you use it, and instead try something else, maybe the bike or cross trainer.

mailliw

Moneymaker wrote: »

You're going to the gym too much. 5 times a week is WAY too much. You need to have rest days to let your body recover. 3 times a week, coupled with a good diet is plenty. You'll burn yourself out if you go 5 times a week, trust me.

Well I've been going to the gym up to 6 times a week for the past 6 months, and I'm still not burnt out, should that be happening sometime soon? As long as you keep the sessions short and you change muscle groups every day you'll be fine!

Sephiroth_dude

ronaneire wrote: »

Instead of steak try chicken or fish. Less fat in lean chicken.

I thought steak was a good source of protein though?no?

ronaneire

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I thought steak was a good source of protein though?no?

It is but contains more fat compared to lean chicken.

gymsoldier

Quote from Dave Pulmbo "Fat dosent make you fat, Carbs do".

Drop the white bread and rice krispy bars. Most soup is loaded with white potato (high GI carb) so cut doen on that. Introduce portein into you diet and healty fats. Eat more often and at regular intervlas. Reduce carbs intake towards the end of the day.

Good advice has already been given by other members, construct a sample diet and post it if you can.

Johnaldinioh

gymsoldier wrote: »

Quote from Dave Pulmbo "Fat dosent make you fat, Carbs do".

Drop the white bread and rice krispy bars. Most soup is loaded with white potato (high GI carb) so cut doen on that. Introduce portein into you diet and healty fats. Eat more often and at regular intervlas. Reduce carbs intake towards the end of the day.

Good advice has already been given by other members, construct a sample diet and post it if you can.

Thanks for all the advice so far everyone really appreciated
A sample of what i have eaten today for eg is
Breakfast- porridge and raisins
lunch- 2 slices of wholemeal bread and chicken soup
dinner-potatoes, carrots, chicken with mushroom sauce
Snack-2 large corn and the cobs
sin e
Also today i went to the gym and done half hour on the treadmill completing 4.5k in this time heart rate staying at 150-160 , 5000m on the rowing machine at level 10 and 15 min on the bike I usually try to do a bit of weights too but i decided im only going to do them 3 times a week until i get used to it.Hopefully i should lose weight and tone up at this rate what ye think ???:D
Another question what is the best time to have your dinner before or after the gym????

Magic Eight Ball

Moneymaker wrote: »

You're going to the gym too much. 5 times a week is WAY too much.

Oh sweet jesus!! Blind leading the blind springs to mind! :rolleyes:

Johnaldinioh

btw im just wondering i have thermabol maximuscle tablets at home i never used . Are these any good or would they just be a waste of time????

Blatter

walshb wrote: »

Do not overkill on liquid, (water). Many people tend to drink loads, and it ends up lying in them. Water too puts weight on. Drink when thirsty, simple.

Just wondering what people thought of this?

I drink 2-3 Litres a day but if I was only to drink when I'm thirsty I'd say it would be more like 1 Litre.

metamorphosis

Water has no calories - you cannot get fat from drinking water. Period.

Of course, if you chug a load of water back and step on the scales, it will register an increase. But, of course, using common sense, you will know that the increase is just the water you have drank and will be gone again when you pee it out.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Just on the gym. You seem to be doing cardio and weights on the same day. I think you should have weights days and cardio days instead.

If you are doing them on the same day I'd do the weights first. Lift the heaviest you can and do compound exercises first.

So one day start with a bench press

Other day start with Dead-lift

third day start with squat

Look these up on youtube or ask at the gym if you need to.

Lifting weights is a great way to lose fat. Growing new muscle takes up loads of calories. Given how tall you are I think you'll see fat loss very quickly with weights. Also even if you were to eat more your shape improves and you look good even if you haven't lost any fat.

And would totally agree with those suggesting you add more protein to every meal. Litre of semi skimmed milk has 30+g of protein which is easy to add to any meal.

gymsoldier

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Just wondering what people thought of this?

I drink 2-3 Litres a day but if I was only to drink when I'm thirsty I'd say it would be more like 1 Litre.

The body will retain water if you're drinking only the minimal amount a day, its the same as the "famine affect" with eating. Yet again another example of no knowledge of the subject leading to poor misguided advice.

If anything, I'd increase water consumption as its needed for all bodily functions.

gymsoldier

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Just on the gym. You seem to be doing cardio and weights on the same day. I think you should have weights days and cardio days instead.

If you are doing them on the same day I'd do the weights first. Lift the heaviest you can and do compound exercises first.

So one day start with a bench press

Other day start with Dead-lift

third day start with squat

Look these up on youtube or ask at the gym if you need to.

Lifting weights is a great way to lose fat. Growing new muscle takes up loads of calories. Given how tall you are I think you'll see fat loss very quickly with weights. Also even if you were to eat more your shape improves and you look good even if you haven't lost any fat.

And would totally agree with those suggesting you add more protein to every meal. Litre of semi skimmed milk has 30+g of protein which is easy to add to any meal.

Id advise cardio after training, studies have shown and proved that when glycogen is low the body utilises more fat for energy. The greatest example of this is when a marathon runner hits "the wall".

Bottle_of_Smoke

gymsoldier wrote: »

Id advise cardio after training, studies have shown and proved that when glycogen is low the body utilises more fat for energy. The greatest example of this is when a marathon runner hits "the wall".

That's interesting. So I take it you agree to do the weights first? Not to hijack the thread but I usually weight train after work and then cycle home. I'd usually eat a piece of fruit after the gym or have a cup of hot chocolate. Then protein shake when I get home and start making my dinner? Should I perhaps skip the fruit and hot chocolate?

Moneymaker

Magic Eight Ball wrote: »

Oh sweet jesus!! Blind leading the blind springs to mind! :rolleyes:

Why? Rather then being a condescending ass, explain why going 5 times a week is a good thing? Why not having rest days is a good thing? Please elaborate.

I am always keen to learn, and seeing how you are so enlightened, you seem like a perfect person to ask. :rolleyes:

walshb

metamorphosis wrote: »

Water has no calories - you cannot get fat from drinking water. Period.

Of course, if you chug a load of water back and step on the scales, it will register an increase. But, of course, using common sense, you will know that the increase is just the water you have drank and will be gone again when you pee it out.

Never said water makes you fat. I agree with your point.

Assuming that you do pee it out. Some folks retain more liquid than others.
Simple: Drink when thirsty. If you are trying to lose weight then 2-4 litres of water a day is far too much.

Calories and weight gain are slightly separate. You eat a fair quantity of food
that is low in calories, you will still gain weight, (8-10 fruit portions a day). You eat small portions of high calorific food, then you may not gain weight.
It's as much to do with QUANTITY as calories.

Wonkagirl

mailliw wrote: »

Also, in terms of ideal weight, I don't believe such a thing exists. It depends on gender, age, build, and muscle weight/fat weight. For example, I weight 200lb now, which a lot of people would call overweight but my body fat percentage is 13.6%, which no one would call anywhere near unhealthy. Weight isn't the real enemy, bodyfat is.

I'm blue in the face from saying this! For eg., my weight a yr ago was towards the lower end of the 'ideal weight' range- but my body fat was SKY high.. people rarely take BF% into account, and they really should

My advice to OP:
Cut way down on the bad carbs and replace them with veg and salad.. with that diet, you must surely be constipated?
Do intense interval training and incorporate weights
Get your body fat checked, and rechecked every month thereafter.. i'm sure the mardyke trainers woudl do this for you.

BlueIsland

walshb wrote: »

Never said water makes you fat. I agree with your point.

Assuming that you do pee it out. Some folks retain more liquid than others.
Simple: Drink when thirsty. If you are trying to lose weight then 2-4 litres of water a day is far too much.

Calories and weight gain are slightly separate. You eat a fair quantity of food
that is low in calories, you will still gain weight, (8-10 fruit portions a day). You eat small portions of high calorific food, then you may not gain weight.
It's as much to do with QUANTITY as calories.

Is this actually serious???? water has ZERO CALORIES. it has no detrimental effect to losing weight.

Wonkagirl

BlueIsland wrote: »

Is this actually serious???? water has ZERO CALORIES. it has no detrimental effect to losing weight.

yeah it seems a bit random alright

the only thing i can think of is that drinking lots of water WITH a meal could potentially be determinental to the digestion process?

sipping (as opposed to gulping) water is much better. Taking on too much at a time is counter productive

Parsley

walshb wrote: »

Never said water makes you fat. I agree with your point.

Assuming that you do pee it out. Some folks retain more liquid than others.
Simple: Drink when thirsty. If you are trying to lose weight then 2-4 litres of water a day is far too much.

Calories and weight gain are slightly separate. You eat a fair quantity of food
that is low in calories, you will still gain weight, (8-10 fruit portions a day). You eat small portions of high calorific food, then you may not gain weight.
It's as much to do with QUANTITY as calories.

wtf are you on about? this is one of the most downright idiotic posts i've ever seen in this forum, and i've seen a few. "Calories and weight gain are slightly separate." - they couldn't be linked any more closely. i see where you're coming from with the "lots of little calories" = "lots of big calories", but at the end of the day it's ALL about total calorie intake (well, it's about carbs:protein:fat ratio too but still) but it's certainly not "as much to do with QUANTITY as calories".

"If you are trying to lose weight then 2-4 litres of water a day is far too much." - no, it isn't at all. if you're thirsty then your body doesn't have enough water in it. your piss should be very pale yellow, almost clear. if not, drink more water.

FTA69

Moneymaker wrote: »

Why? Rather then being a condescending ass, explain why going 5 times a week is a good thing? Why not having rest days is a good thing? Please elaborate.

I am always keen to learn, and seeing how you are so enlightened, you seem like a perfect person to ask. :rolleyes:

Rest is grand but going to the gym more than three times a week isn't "way too much", not by any stretch. For instance doing weights Mon, Wed and Fri while doing cardio Tues and Thurs isn't overdoing it. Going for a swim or a run or a cycle every day can also be highly beneficial for weight loss.

"Three days a week" isn't a rule set in stone and doing more than this isn't inherently "way too much."

walshb

Parsley wrote: »

wtf are you on about? this is one of the most downright idiotic posts i've ever seen in this forum, and i've seen a few. "Calories and weight gain are slightly separate." - they couldn't be linked any more closely. i see where you're coming from with the "lots of little calories" = "lots of big calories", but at the end of the day it's ALL about total calorie intake (well, it's about carbs:protein:fat ratio too but still) but it's certainly not "as much to do with QUANTITY as calories".

"If you are trying to lose weight then 2-4 litres of water a day is far too much." - no, it isn't at all. if you're thirsty then your body doesn't have enough water in it. your piss should be very pale yellow, almost clear. if not, drink more water.

Simpe; If you drink 3-4 litres of water a day, along with your meals, will you lose or gain weight?

Water gains weight, like anything one ingests. IF you are over doing the intake, then you run the risk of putting on weight.

Not all that difficult to graps, at least not for me...

Remember; Some folks do not get rid of water as easy as others, they retain it more....

Think before jumping in with your aggressive posts.

walshb

BlueIsland wrote: »

Is this actually serious???? water has ZERO CALORIES. it has no detrimental effect to losing weight.

Again, who is disputing water and calories?????

This is about WEIGHT gain, and IF you are drinking too much water, then you run the risk of gaining weight, particularly if the body is not dealing with it, releasing it effectively....

metamorphosis

You do realise (I hope) that's just water weight and you will lose it once you pee it out.

And if you are retaining lots of water, it's a strong sign that you are not hydrating yourself with it enough. Your body will hold onto it if there's not enough for your body to utilize

Elohim

walshb wrote: »

Again, who is disputing water and calories?????

This is about WEIGHT gain, and IF you are drinking too much water, then you run the risk of gaining weight, particularly if the body is not dealing with it, releasing it effectively....

The body would probably only hold onto it if you were eating a high salt diet. Otherwise it has no reason to retain the water and you'll just piss it out.
If you've a good diet I don't see how drinking water runs the risk of you putting on weight.

BlueIsland

walshb wrote: »

Again, who is disputing water and calories?????

This is about WEIGHT gain, and IF you are drinking too much water, then you run the risk of gaining weight, particularly if the body is not dealing with it, releasing it effectively....

Right Im not getting into an argument over complete bull like that.

Elohim

BlueIsland wrote: »

Right Im not getting into an argument over complete bull like that.

Ah come on, join us will you.

walshb

I don't see why this simple discussion has to be an argument?:rolleyes:

Simple: You can over do water intake. Remember, most of your foods are made up of water, so drinking 2-3-4 litres a day is completely
unnecessary. Also, tea, coffee, and other drinks do count for
overall intake....

IF you are training real hard, sweating a ot each day, then yes, increasing the intake is necessary. BUT, for the OP, it seems he is doing moderate exercise.

I never said drinking water puts on weight...

I said overdoing it could....

I also realise it's water weight. What else could it be?

ronaneire

walshb wrote: »

I don't see why this simple discussion has to be an argument?:rolleyes:

Simple: You can over do water intake. Remember, most of your foods are made up of water, so drinking 2-3-4 litres a day is completely
unnecessary. Also, tea, coffee, and other drinks do count for
overall intake....

IF you are training real hard, sweating a ot each day, then yes, increasing the intake is necessary. BUT, for the OP, it seems he is doing moderate exercise.

I never said drinking water puts on weight...

I said overdoing it could....

I also realise it's water weight. What else could it be?

Drinking water ain't going to make you fat. Your body requires water to function. If you are dehydrated then yes the body will retain it.

I have an idea of what you mean and where you are coming from regarding it, a bit like a jockey sitting in a sauna and sweating his ass off in the hope of losing a couple of pounds before a race meeting. But once you consume water the weight is back where it once was.

walshb

ronaneire wrote: »

Drinking water ain't going to make you fat. Your body requires water to function. If you are dehydrated then yes the body will retain it.

I have an idea of what you mean and where you are coming from regarding it, a bit like a jockey sitting in a sauna and sweating his ass off in the hope of losing a couple of pounds before a race meeting. But once you consume water the weight is back where it once was.

Never said it will make you fat. I have already stressed this point. I am aware it's essential for life and that we need it. BUT, there is a huge myth out there that we somehow NEED 2-3 litres of it a day? We must include in this, the water from foods and other drinks.

So, two to three litres on TOP of the water gained from food, tea, coffee and soft drinks, is too much, generally speaking. Like I said, you are training very hard and sweating a lot, then yes, maybe two to three litres.

If a person is looking to lose lbs, then they must limit what goes in to their body, both solid and liquid. Ingesting 7-8 lbs of water a day on top of say 3- 4 lbs of solids a day is 10-11 lbs a day. Now, you may well get rid of 6-9 lbs, but you won't really see a loss on that scales....

Parsley

walshb wrote: »

If a person is looking to lose lbs, then they must limit what goes in to their body, both solid and liquid. Ingesting 7-8 lbs of water a day on top of say 3- 4 lbs of solids a day is 10-11 lbs a day. Now, you may well get rid of 6-9 lbs, but you won't really see a loss on that scales....

here, i get what you're saying but come on. the OP isn't weighing in for a fight, the scales don't matter a f*ck. they want to lose fat and look better. being well hydrated makes you feel better in general, from not being thirsty, not having headaches (i know i get awful ones if i don't drink 4-5 pints a day) to stuff like making your skin look/feel nice. what you're saying is technically right, but have a bitta cop on about flexing your knowledge like.

walshb

Parsley wrote: »

here, i get what you're saying but come on. the OP isn't weighing in for a fight, the scales don't matter a f*ck. they want to lose fat and look better. being well hydrated makes you feel better in general, from not being thirsty, not having headaches (i know i get awful ones if i don't drink 4-5 pints a day) to stuff like making your skin look/feel nice. what you're saying is technically right, but have a bitta cop on about flexing your knowledge like.

Who said anything about weiging in for a fight? If that was the case, two or three teaspoons may well be an issue.

If the OP just wants to tone up, and gain muscle, then that is a different debate. I was under the impression he wanted to drop from 14 stones down
to a lower weight.

As for you needing 4-5 pints of water a day or else you get headaches, then I would go see a neurologist before doing anything. I assume that is 4-5 pints BEFORE taking into account water from foods and tea and coffee? If so, then that doesn't seem right.

I for one don't ingest 4-5 pints of water a day, and I certainly don't come close to getting awful headaches. I guess it's different for everyone; that is why I said that in general we do not need 2-3 litres of water on TOP
of what we already get from food, coffee, tea and soft drinks.

I would say a litre of water in a 24 hour period is aboiut right. Added to the avearage 3-4 cups of tea for an Irish person, foods, then this should be perfect.

Parsley

walshb wrote: »

As for you needing 4-5 pints of water a day or else you get headaches, then I would go see a neurologist before doing anything. I assume that is 4-5 pints BEFORE taking into account water from foods and tea and coffee? If so, then that doesn't seem right.

I for one don't ingest 4-5 pints of water a day, and I certainly don't come close to getting awful headaches. I guess it's different for everyone; that is why I said that in general we do not need 2-3 litres of water on TOP
of what we already get from food, coffee, tea and soft drinks.

I would say a litre of water in a 24 hour period is aboiut right. Added to the avearage 3-4 cups of tea for an Irish person, foods, then this should be perfect.

i drank 1.5 litres alone in the hour or two while i was training, wasn't sweating too much. i don't drink much tea or coffee or juice. anyway, the point is that drinking 2-3 litres is in no way detrimental to one's fat loss or health, and if they only drink when they're thirsty like you recommend they're probably dehydrated. which could be detrimental to fat loss as their exercising capacity would be feckered.

Mellor

walshb wrote: »

; that is why I said that in general we do not need 2-3 litres of water on TOP
of what we already get from food, coffee, tea and soft drinks.

Nobody said it was on top of those things.
It's 3-5 litres of fluids a day, water is generally mentioned as getting this amound of fluids from other sources is a bad this.
But even a litre of Coke (which has the problem of lots of sugar) still provides arounf 900ml of water.

I discount food, as most of the water is lost when cooking.


But i have no idea where you get the notion that you will hold on to more than this. You won't, the more you drink the more you piss. Simple.
And in actualy fact, if you restrict the amount of water you ingest, your body actually retains more. (as a boxing mod I thought you would of been familar with this)

mailliw

Has anyone else noticed how this thread has changed slightly from the original question?

If ye want to discuss water weight etc i suggest opening a new thread, not clogging this one up which is about how the OP should exercise/eat, and water makes such a little difference to results unless you're ingesting loads of fats which the OP clearly isn't.

metamorphosis

mailliw wrote: »

Has anyone else noticed how this thread has changed slightly from the original question?

If ye want to discuss water weight etc i suggest opening a new thread, not clogging this one up which is about how the OP should exercise/eat, and water makes such a little difference to results unless you're ingesting loads of fats which the OP clearly isn't.

While I appreciate your sentiment, this happens all too frequently (and too much for my liking) in this forum, but less of the back seat modding would be great too. Cheers.

Parsley

mailliw wrote: »

Has anyone else noticed how this thread has changed slightly from the original question?

If ye want to discuss water weight etc i suggest opening a new thread, not clogging this one up which is about how the OP should exercise/eat, and water makes such a little difference to results unless you're ingesting loads of fats which the OP clearly isn't.

it usually just happens when people give bad advice/are generally wrong, other people try to correct them for the OP's benefit, but then it gets dragged out and the thread gets derailed...

gymsoldier

Parsley wrote: »

it usually just happens when people give bad advice/are generally wrong, other people try to correct them for the OP's benefit, but then it gets dragged out and the thread gets derailed...

Completely agree. Ive been on boards.ie less then two weeks, and in those two weeks this kinda thing has already annoyed and bored me. When someone thinks they know what their talking about, their so stubborn to ammit their wrong, when they clearly have zero idea of what their talking about. Its all gym myths, made up myths, and bad internet research being typed. So how do we stop these treads getting to six or seven pages of arguments and wrong information?

Parsley

gymsoldier wrote: »

Completely agree. Ive been on boards.ie less then two weeks, and in those two weeks this kinda thing has already annoyed and bored me. When someone thinks they know what their talking about, their so stubborn to ammit their wrong, when they clearly have zero idea of what their talking about. Its all gym myths, made up myths, and bad internet research being typed. So how do we stop these treads getting to six or seven pages of arguments and wrong information?

MOOORE MOOOODDDDDS! :pac:

Johnaldinioh

ha ha my god i never knew you could debate water for so long. i only drink when im thirsty and dont drink any fizzy drinks. lately i have felt my fitness improve and am doing 5.5k in 30mins and 5000m rowing in 20 to 25 mins . Also to the people talking about toning up of course i want to tone up but want to try to get down in weight to help my speed for soccer which i play 3 times a week. ideally i would like to lose probably about a stone and a half to 2 stone .

marathonic

walshb wrote: »

If a person is looking to lose lbs, then they must limit what goes in to their body, both solid and liquid. Ingesting 7-8 lbs of water a day on top of say 3- 4 lbs of solids a day is 10-11 lbs a day. Now, you may well get rid of 6-9 lbs, but you won't really see a loss on that scales....

If you drink enough water daily to retain a litre extra in your body, you’ll weigh 1kg heavier.

1kg of fat is burned with about 7,700 calories. Let’s assume that the person consuming the extra water performs better during their exercise (which will usually be the case) and burns an extra 100 calories three times a week. After 6 months, that’ll be 1kg of fat lost and the person will be carrying their kilo water weight as opposed to a kilo of fat. The water weight will always be lost a short time after consumed.

Personally, I drink about 4-5 litres of water per day – 2 during excersise and the remaining throughout the day.

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Johnaldinioh wrote: »

ha ha my god i never knew you could debate water for so long. i only drink when im thirsty and dont drink any fizzy drinks. lately i have felt my fitness improve and am doing 5.5k in 30mins and 5000m rowing in 20 to 25 mins . Also to the people talking about toning up of course i want to tone up but want to try to get down in weight to help my speed for soccer which i play 3 times a week. ideally i would like to lose probably about a stone and a half to 2 stone .

Bear in mind having solid muscle weight isn't inherently going to slow you down either, e.g. footballers, American footballers, rugby etc.