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Cash deposit

  • 19-01-2011 11:49am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭


    hiyas,

    im curious on your opinion on this.

    I went to view a place last night advertised on daft.ie.

    when i arrived the guy showing it said he had 3 places going in the same building that were on daft (i checked this when i got home and it was true) he also said that most people living there stayed for years so that seemed a bit odd that there was 3 going at once.

    during the viewing i said i liked it and would meet him tomorrow with a draft because i didnt want to be handing over cash. he said fine and he would get back to me later, someone else was also coming to view the place.

    so i went home and waited got no call so i thought id chance my arm and text asking, and he called back straight away and said i could have it and to meet tomorrow.

    so this morning i got up and txt asking for his full name for the draft, txt back and said he wanted cash, so i txt saying outta da question but if he gave me his a/c number id lodge it directly into his account.

    got a call a few mins later from him saying he was only the agent that manages the property on behalf of the landlord and that he needed the cash to pay bills and a tenant that overpaid the rent??? and that all future rent payments would go directly to the landlord but the first payment should always be done by cash and that if i paid it to the landlords a/c he would not be able to access it - and then went on about a trust thing and that i had to trust him as he was trusting me as a tenant.

    i said id leave it - so im just curious if anyone else has come across this setup and if its normal? In my 8 years of renting Ive never experienced this before. They way I see it is that if he was the landlords agent there still should be no problem me lodging it into his (the agents) account and he could access it from there himself.

    Thats all, your advise would be very much appreciated.

    cheers


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    They might be trustworthy in general, but it sounds to me like they're lying about this deposit issue so i'd be very suspicious overall...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭onion rings


    i know its a killer cos it was a great place.

    and if thats the norm whats to stop me putting up the place im renting at the moment on daft and insisting on cash when people come to view it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    cant u contact d landlord and ask him d deal wit it, seems dodgy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭onion rings


    i never thought of asking for the landlords details to be honest,

    i shoudda done that and insisted on a landline, ill know for next time though - maybe im just being too paranoid, though i think the paranoia would be worse after i handed over the cash

    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hadepsx


    no probs, no harm in asking, its your money after all, and the agent shud understand if he is legit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭robd


    and then went on about a trust thing and that i had to trust him as he was trusting me as a tenant.

    That's the alarm bells there. Use of word trust.

    Last time I got a place, there were 2 drats required, 1 for landlord to cover deposit and 1 for agent to cover 1st months rent (generally this is their commission). They were in agents and landlords names though.

    You'd have to establish agent is registered and operating from a real premises to get a better idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭homerjk


    I paid my deposit and first months rent in cash to one of the biggest developers in Ireland. I was a bit wary like you but the following 14 months have been standing order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    hiyas,

    im curious on your opinion on this.

    I went to view a place last night advertised on daft.ie.

    when i arrived the guy showing it said he had 3 places going in the same building that were on daft (i checked this when i got home and it was true) he also said that most people living there stayed for years so that seemed a bit odd that there was 3 going at once.

    during the viewing i said i liked it and would meet him tomorrow with a draft because i didnt want to be handing over cash. he said fine and he would get back to me later, someone else was also coming to view the place.

    so i went home and waited got no call so i thought id chance my arm and text asking, and he called back straight away and said i could have it and to meet tomorrow.

    so this morning i got up and txt asking for his full name for the draft, txt back and said he wanted cash, so i txt saying outta da question but if he gave me his a/c number id lodge it directly into his account.

    got a call a few mins later from him saying he was only the agent that manages the property on behalf of the landlord and that he needed the cash to pay bills and a tenant that overpaid the rent??? and that all future rent payments would go directly to the landlord but the first payment should always be done by cash and that if i paid it to the landlords a/c he would not be able to access it - and then went on about a trust thing and that i had to trust him as he was trusting me as a tenant.

    i said id leave it - so im just curious if anyone else has come across this setup and if its normal? In my 8 years of renting Ive never experienced this before. They way I see it is that if he was the landlords agent there still should be no problem me lodging it into his (the agents) account and he could access it from there himself.

    Thats all, your advise would be very much appreciated.

    cheers

    incidently where is the place, on the look myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    This could well be a scam quite popular in the UK, where someone other than the landlord (tenant, short-time renter, basically anyone with keys to the property) is pretending that it is his to rent.

    There is a very good chance that this guy could take your cash and be off on his heels.

    There is no valid reason for what he is asking. Try to deal only with the landlord.

    If you want to know if he is genuine, ask him to show you a copy of the BER for the dwelling. If he is a legitimate agent he will have this - he is required by law to do so.

    I would stay away from this if you cannot find out more about this fellow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭onion rings


    hi listermint, ill send you a pm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Penguino


    Well done in not paying in cash. Sounds too dodgy

    I work in the letting industry, the deposit and first months rent should be going into the letting agents "client account". From there they will take their fee and give the remainder to the landlord


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    Could defo be a scam... getting 20 people to hand over a deposit before he emigrates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭gossipgal08


    he needed the cash to pay bills and a tenant that overpaid the rent???

    Your deposit should not be used for anything other than covering any damage you may have done while living in the place. It should not be spent untill you move out.

    he was only the agent that manages the property

    Can he prove this ?
    I have always paid cash upfront (to the LL or letting agent ) and rent by standing order


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭onion rings


    to be honest when he wouldnt even accept the cash direct into his own bank account (the agents account i mean) i didnt bother asking for any verification. granted i thought if i gave him a bank draft he would have to go to the bank to lodge it and that might be a hassle for him but with cash in his account he just needed to ring his 24 hour bank and check it was there and hand over keys and then just go to an atm (about 3 min walk from the apt and withdraw) granted he might have a daily limit but it would of been for 900 total which could of been taken out over 2 days if he needed to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Doop


    Sounds like something is amiss. Him asking specifically and only for cash is not right, he's supposed to be running a business should be able to accept a number of different payment methods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Unless you get lots of reassurance, walk away.

    Fast.


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