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Car Warrenty

  • 18-01-2011 2:28pm
    #1
    KERSPLAT!
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    Ive had a quick look and couldnt find a thread (although im sure there is) with this question,

    Is there a minimum warranty that should be/is provided on a car?

    Im going to see a car at a garage in Dublin tonight/tomorrow, I was told the garage would probably give either 0 or 30 days on the car but my mate said it should be a 3 month minimum?

    Im thinking if its 0 id wave goodbye, anyone that wont even give 30 days cant believe too much in the reliability of the car,

    Ford Mondeo 1.8 2001

    Any info would be a great help

    edit: ugh!! spelt warranty wrong :/

    Sorry if this is the wrong section,

    Ian


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  • #2
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    There is no legal requirement when it comes to second hand cars, if its sold as seen then its zero days warranty. It does not necessarily mean that the dealer knows of a problem, but they probably have no knowledge of the cars past and it could be costing them 500 euro and if it has a major issue to fix it could be double or triple that, so it doesn't make economical sense.

    Its been said many times on the fourm that if your spending small money on a car, then your better off going with a private seller, while still carrying out the usual checks.


  • #3
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Seeing as its a trader, they have to give a warranty when selling to a consumer. I dont know if there is a minumum but you would want at least 3 months. It will only apply to engine & gearbox usually but still, that is of some use. If they are not happy giving 3 months warranty on its engine & gearbox, its really not worth buying.


  • #4
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    So I could drive off the forecourt, car breaks down, just say gearbox/clutch goes and Id have no come back? I know its a 2nd hand car but surely there are some sort of consumer rights?

    The reason I was going to a garage is to get rid of my car and get a new 1 in 1 go, mine doesnt have an NCT and couple other small things so its the easiest way to get rid,


  • #5
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    mickdw wrote: »
    Seeing as its a trader, they have to give a warranty when selling to a consumer. I dont know if there is a minumum but you would want at least 3 months. It will only apply to engine & gearbox usually but still, that is of some use. If they are not happy giving 3 months warranty on its engine & gearbox, its really not worth buying.[/QUOTE]

    This was my thinking :pac:


  • #6
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Well i'm sure the usual sales of goods act still applies, but as you say if you bought the car 'sold as seen' then yes, if you have a problem 5 mins down the road then the dealer will probably won't want to know, but you won't know until it happens.

    After that you could go down the small claims court and have some luck, you really don't know.


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  • #7
    mickdw
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    Something else for you to consider, It is most likely that if your trade in is not helping the deal in any way. I figure if you went down there buying straight, you would not pay any more. Im assuming your trade is pretty worthless given that the car you are buying is a cheap car & also given that your trade in has no test on it.
    DO NOT buy the car 'sold as seen' or allow him to write sold as seen on the receipt etc.


  • #8
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    I really just want rid off mine TBH, I'll make sure I have a good look at the receipt when/if the deal goes through,

    So what kinda time do you think? If NOT sold as seen? Does it depend on what the dealer gives or is there a minimum time?


  • #9
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    IPAM wrote: »
    Im going to see a car at a garage in Dublin tonight/tomorrow, I was told the garage would probably give either 0 or 30 days on the car but my mate said it should be a 3 month minimum?
    The best advice anyone can give you is to buy elsewhere.


  • #10
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    Well on a 2001 I wouldnt expect more than 3 months and its just hear say at the moment, Ill have to wait till I speak to the dealer

    Main question was about the warranty, whether theres a minimum or not on a car, NOT sold as seen


  • #11
    alexmcred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭alexmcred


    Here's a link to the consumer affairs website witch has info on car buying

    http://www.consumerconnect.ie/eng/Hot_Topics/Guides-to-Consumer-Law/Buying-a-car/

    They don't say it is mandatory for a dealer to give a warranty but the vehicle must be of merchantable quality


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  • #12
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    alexmcred wrote: »
    Here's a link to the consumer affairs website witch has info on car buying

    http://www.consumerconnect.ie/eng/Hot_Topics/Guides-to-Consumer-Law/Buying-a-car/

    They don't say it is mandatory for a dealer to give a warranty but the vehicle must be of merchantable qualityy

    So if the car is "sold as seen" and priced accordingly and drives fine and displays no faults at the point of sale, but has a catastrophic failure shortly after is that tough luck?


  • #13
    alexmcred
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    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    So if the car is "sold as seen" and priced accordingly and drives fine and displays no faults at the point of sale, but has a catastrophic failure shortly after is that tough luck?


    It could be. I would think it would come down to reasonable expectation so if the car was priced accordingly I'd say you'd have a hard time trying to prove un-merchantable quality.

    At the end of the day it's most likely going to end up in court if the car does suffer a catastrophic failure and the judge will decide on the day.


  • #14
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    "reasonable expectastion"

    Id expect to get years from a car, even if it was a '00 with 100k miles, so this cant be right? How long is a car expected to last? :confused:

    There are some cars that go for 20 years...or more...


  • #15
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    alexmcred wrote: »
    It could be. I would think it would come down to reasonable expectation so if the car was priced accordingly I'd say you'd have a hard time trying to prove un-merchantable quality.

    At the end of the day it's most likely going to end up in court if the car does suffer a catastrophic failure and the judge will decide on the day.

    I think that's pretty reasonable.


  • #16
    Absurdum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    delly wrote: »
    There is no legal requirement when it comes to second hand cars, if its sold as seen then its zero days warranty. It does not necessarily mean that the dealer knows of a problem, but they probably have no knowledge of the cars past and it could be costing them 500 euro and if it has a major issue to fix it could be double or triple that, so it doesn't make economical sense.

    Its been said many times on the fourm that if your spending small money on a car, then your better off going with a private seller, while still carrying out the usual checks.


    Not so, see
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2010/0106/1224261723440.html
    and

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2010/0106/1224261723440.html

    as discussed here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055738926


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