Counterfeit tax disc

mawk

The other thread about cars not being taxed got me wondering, what's the outcome of being caught with a fake tax disc? Say i have 2 cars, tax one and photocopy the disc for the other.

Whats the fine for fraud and what's the fine for tax evasion?

jaffa20

*sigh* I couldn't be bothered

IBTL

L1011

Revenue fines can and have gone to over a million quid - effectively its unlimited and works on being a function of what you've defrauded. Buy a bloody tax disc.

Squall19

Friend at work did it for over 8 months till he got caught.Car got taken away, had to pay 200e or something to get it out and then pay 8 months back tax due on it and tax it for 3 months.They left him take it home after that and he had a day in court where he was fined 600e.

I think he got off light enough.If its an old banger, then its worth doing it as you have nothing to lose, you can just leave the guards keep your banger and you got a few months free road tax, but if the car is worth more than 2000e its a very risky game imo.

poker--addict

find it hard to see how if you get a decent copy or photoshop you would caught without been very unlucky.
My fear would be having an accident involving large claim and your insurance company deciding no payout.

tommyhaas

poker--addict wrote: »

find it hard to see how if you get a decent copy or photoshop you would caught without been very unlucky.
My fear would be having an accident involving large claim and your insurance company deciding no payout.

Would the car not show up as untaxed on these new cameras the Garda are getting, you those magic cameras they have on Road Wars

andyseadog

poker--addict wrote: »

find it hard to see how if you get a decent copy or photoshop you would caught without been very unlucky.

the colour of the disc changes ever 6 or 12 months, i forget which, so it would have to be a copy of a very recent tax disc, it also has the cars make/ model/ colour and cc's on it, so all a garda has to do is have a good look at it.

for 99% of cars i reckon its not worth the risk. specially with all this new A.N.P.R. lark, imagine being pulled in for no tax, then havong a fake disc in the window, the gards and courts would really go to town on you, in my opinion you would get off lighter for just not having tax.

edit : beaten to it

v300

Strictly speaking it's illegal man. I know people are pressed for cash but this place is not the place to ask for advise for ducking and diving your car ownership obligations.
From my perspective I'd prefer to have no disc or out of date disc rather than a false one, as having a false one attracts a whole different and harsher range of penalties.

A distant but respected mate from an old workplace in the midwest of Ireland was producing brilliant two sided top class laser copies of tax discs for willing fools aka customers when one of his "loyal customers" was caught by the police with the falsie disc who sung like a canary when asked by the cops where he got the disc.

The cops came 'a knocking to my mates house and he was facing serious jailtime for fraud, and committed suicide, leaving young kids and a (still) bewildered wife behind.

I'd like my words in this posting to not be edited Mods, to show the naive young gunslingers of recessionary bound Ireland that there is sometimes an all too human cost to fraud.

Alanstrainor

And I think we'll leave it at that.