hatsan escort shotgun

boogun

hi all,

I'm new to the board and was wanting some advice/opinions on these shotguns as i'm thinking of changing from a single barrel 20g to a hatsan escort junior pump, 20g. I mainly shoot pigeons, crows and the odd pheasant.....if i'm quick enough:D

Recoil is a problem for me and that's why i prefer to use a 20g, has anyone any experience of these guns as it was suggested to me that this shotgun may be ideal for me.

All opinions welcome.

thanks,
boo

Glensman

I wouldnt if it were me. They're cheap and some would say cheerful. Build quality is nothing special.

I would advise you to spend the same kind of money but on a second hand shotgun of better make. Such as Berretta or Benelli. One of those should hold it's value whereas the Datsun wont (at all), making a Beretta or similar cheaper in the long-run...

virgindrummer

If it's a 20g pump action you're after, there was a nice Mossberg at Stakelums in Thurles the last time I was there. Very light gun, I'm afraid I can't remember the price. It would probably be better quality than the Turkish gun.

Jonty

If you are recoil sensitive a 20g might not be the best. A light 20g firing magnum shells can be kicky.

have you considered a 12g semi auto, the recoil is a log softer in them

Savage93

You'll get lots of advice to stay away from the Hatsan, reviews are good on them, budget guns, tough as nails, not fancy but they sell. Turkish shotguns used to be like skodas, ****e, but they've improved vastly. Numerous"big name" manufacturers contract the manufacture of their shotguns to Turkey now and charge "western prices".
Try it and see and ,if you like it and it feels comfortable with it f~~k the begrudgers, repairs , when and if they come about may be difficult as I don't know whats the parts situation here. Not everybody can afford Benelli , Browning etc.

boogun

Glensman, if resale value wasn't an issue and it just looks cheap and cheerful would you consider it a good buy. I know there's better guns out there but it would have to be a budget buy regardless.

Virgindrummer, I fell in love with a moseberg I had a loan of and have been looking for out for one since october but haven't had luck finding one(new or used). I'ii give Stalklums a call tommorow so thanks for that info.

Jonty, Can you get any gun in a youth/junior, i feel safer with a pump action as i'm only shooting about a year thats why i'm not sure about a semi auto. It's also the length of the barrell, which i find longer on 12g shotguns.
I'm only 5''2, thats why i want to be sure i get the right shotgun this time round as the one i have just isn't suitable for me.

Thanks for the help in this,
boo

boogun

hi savage93, I think that sums it up pretty well, I can't really afford some of the popular brands, it's the reliabilty and repairs as you pointed out that would put me off. I only fire a couple of hundred rounds a year, just to tag along with the hubbie...... he has a Laurona O/U shotgun that seems fine and i have shot from it but it kicks like a mule..it's light. The Hatsan seems like it might suit, but I can't find any reviews on it.
boo

Glensman

boogun wrote: »

Glensman, if resale value wasn't an issue and it just looks cheap and cheerful would you consider it a good buy. I know there's better guns out there but it would have to be a budget buy regardless.


boo

For me, no. What you want to do is go out and find a gun that FITS you. This will dramatically reduce recoil. As would using a semi-auto rather than pump.
The Hatsan has a following in england, and Edgar Bros will supply all parts needed if required at all. I would still far rather have a second hand quality gun rather than a Hatsan.
You could compare it quite well to cars, I have never bought a new car. I can get a far better second hand car for the same money.

By all means shop on a budget, but get out there and find a gun you REALLY like- not one out of a magazine. If needed you can get a good second hand shotgun RFD'd over from England or buy in the North.

By the money you have to spend and the recoil factor if it were me I'd be looking for a Beretta A303.

All the best with the search, but really get out there and look around. You can also shoot 12guage with 24gram shells, this would reduce recoil greatly....

Savage93

boogun wrote: »

hi savage93, I think that sums it up pretty well, I can't really afford some of the popular brands, it's the reliabilty and repairs as you pointed out that would put me off. I only fire a couple of hundred rounds a year, just to tag along with the hubbie...... he has a Laurona O/U shotgun that seems fine and i have shot from it but it kicks like a mule..it's light. The Hatsan seems like it might suit, but I can't find any reviews on it.
boo

http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/guns/111861/Hatsan_Escort_Magnum.ht
All here boogun , from no less than the Shooting Times

kenneths

review of the 20g (i haven't read it)

http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/guns/111861/Hatsan_Escort_Magnum.html

Tackleberrywho

boogun wrote: »

hi all,

I'm new to the board and was wanting some advice/opinions on these shotguns as i'm thinking of changing from a single barrel 20g to a hatsan escort junior pump, 20g. I mainly shoot pigeons, crows and the odd pheasant.....if i'm quick enough:D

Recoil is a problem for me and that's why i prefer to use a 20g, has anyone any experience of these guns as it was suggested to me that this shotgun may be ideal for me.

All opinions welcome.

thanks,
boo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyT3OYAMUA8

Seriously light kick off this. I love my Remington, as Recoil is nothing

20g actually has more kick.

I have mine since 2006 and love it to bits

cavan shooter

I know a guy using a Hatsan this last 4 years and he decoys pigeons with it game and clays. Another option the webley.

snipe02

virgindrummer wrote: »

If it's a 20g pump action you're after, there was a nice Mossberg at Stakelums in Thurles the last time I was there. Very light gun, I'm afraid I can't remember the price. It would probably be better quality than the Turkish gun.

mossberg is a turkish gun i have heard good thing about the hatson

Savage93

Large Hatsan fiollowing in UK, parts situation ok through Edgar Bros, Just make sure whatever you buy suits you and forget about brand names if you are on a budget

virgindrummer

snipe02 wrote: »

mossberg is a turkish gun

Mossbergs are made in North Haven, Connecticut. Mavericks and 'Mossberg International' are made in Turkey.

snipe02

virgindrummer wrote: »

Mossbergs are made in North Haven, Connecticut. Mavericks and 'Mossberg International' are made in Turkey.

whats the difference between mossberg and mossberg international are them yanks buying credit again did were they not originally made in turkey then if im wrong then i apoligise i googled it and could only come up connecticut where did you get this info

intershoot

nothing wrong with the Hatsan Escort!

I have a semi auto Beretta which I bought new 2/3 years ago - the Browning O/U I had knocked my dung out! I hate taking the Beretta over the fields. It is predominantly a clay gun, and I love it to bits. I took it out once, very carefully, and as sure as **** I touched wire with it stepping over a fence - that was that.

I took a S/A Escort for rough shooting - one of the camo ones as I had a few sitting, and its great. At just under £400 how can you go wrong for a multi-choke gun, steel proofed, 3" Mag chambered and it includes a series of spacers for the but to adjust the length.

You wont get much in a second hand gun for £400 in most of the bigger names - but for recoil reduction I'd have a S/A in either 12G or 20G!

boogun

hi all,

Thanks for all the info, I looked at a 12g s/a beretta 303 with a shortened stock today and the dealer said it even looked like a bad fit for me before I had even decided myself.

I now realise it's the fit of the gun rather than the gauge thats more of an issue with recoil problems for me.

The stock on the Berreta was short enough but the barrell is too long, we went through the specs on the Hatsun Youth. I compared it to other weights and lengths of guns, which all felt awkward. He showed me his sons gun which felt right, so definately know now it's a youth/junior I need with shorter barrell as well as stock. However I dont want to compromise on performance, no point in getting a shotgun and having to creep up to a pigeon and ask can I shoot it.

Originally Posted by virgindrummer
Mossbergs are made in North Haven, Connecticut. Mavericks and 'Mossberg International' are made in Turkey.

Virgindrummer, will it be obvious whether a mossberg is a turkish or the american made one, because should I expect to pay less for the turkish made one.

The hatsun, still looks like it might be a good buy, phoned Stakelums, they still have that Moseberg, so might have a look there too.

The budget, specs and extras(3 different shims to adjust buttplate) are appealing, so maybe it's what I'II go for. Parts don't seem to be an issue either.

Either way, thank you for the info, help and opinions, it's appreciated.