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Martin and Cowen - A secretive love affair?

  • 17-01-2011 10:01am
    #1
    MrThrifty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭


    Is it me or do others also believe that what's going on now between Cowen and Martin could well be just an orchestrated show, designed to put Fianna Fail in the best position when it comes to election time. At the end of the day, Cowen's priorities generally lie first and foremost with his party and what's best for them. Whether this consists of sympathy votes at election time for those candidates who stand a chance of getting elected by telling the electorate that they wanted Cowen out but couldn't pull it off or actually getting Martin in position and leading the party before the electrions, I can't believe that this has not all been discussed and therefore planned well in advance...


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  • #2
    proon4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭proon4


    Heres what I wrote last night on another thread
    "This looks like a set-up...Cowen saying hes not going and possibly Martin saying he is going to challenge him... It gives the impression that Martin has balls, and will be a great motivator for FF...and Cowen still is the tough leader who is doing his best for his country... I think its done and dusted.. Cowen out to pasture after election and Martin Mein Furher part 2.....


  • #3
    gandalf
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    If this is planned then they are in even worse shape than we all thought. The last 24 hours has been an absolute shambles for the FF party. It makes the FG heave against Enda last year look professional and honourable. How even the Greens can continue to prop up this farce is beyond my comprehension.


  • #4
    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    FFS: this is more suited to the CT forum.


  • #5
    proon4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭proon4


    gandalf wrote: »
    If this is planned then they are in even worse shape than we all thought. The last 24 hours has been an absolute shambles for the FF party. It makes the FG heave against Enda last year look professional and honourable. How even the Greens can continue to prop up this farce is beyond my comprehension.

    Normaly id say that this was just a daft conspiracy concerning cowen and martin, but when you see whats been happening in our beloved country nothing surprises me. We have taken our eye of the ball and the robbers, mingers, scroungers, and down right traitors have taken over. The end result is they have sold our country to the imf and the ecb and god knows who else. We are in their grasp for the next 10 years at the least, and our politicians who have done this will walk away with bulging bank accounts and the biggest political pensions in the world... Is it too late ?..


  • #6
    eoinbn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    I can't see how it's good for anyone-barring a few TD's in Cork. The FF mantra that they are just getting on with a difficult job and that nobody could have done any better over the last 24 months is in tatters as Cowen has openly lost support of a sizeable percentage of the party. OTOH Martin is clearly putting the party, and himself, before the country by causing even more turmoil within a government that has only weeks to run with the hope to win a few extra worthless seats in the upcoming GE!

    FF motto for the upcoming GE-"Screw the country, save the Republican Party- vote Fianna Fail!"


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  • #7
    MrThrifty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭MrThrifty


    Okay looks like there are some in agreement with my theory... Bottom line as I see it is that even Cowen understands that he has to be the fall guy in all of this at the end of the day and this is in the best interests of the party going forward. That way, FF candidates can blame everything on their leader at the time of the elections and in the future. If you throw this whole conspiracy theory in the bin, then the only option left is that we're dealing with an incredibly dysfunctional and idiotic party which, despite the current economic situation we find ourselves in, I find somewhat difficult to swallow. Interestingly, on the whole conspiracy theory theme, this wouldn't be the first time Martin has been involved with one icon12.gif -> I'm thinking back to the nursing home scandal some years back when a civil servent took the hit for him and poor old Martin had to summon together the limited acting skills he'd previously acquired from the 'Fair City School of Acting' for his denial interviews at the time!


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