Yorkshire Ripper loses appeal over sentence

godscop

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

loike

what about second chances for the people he murdered?

bonerm

Ah well, he took a stab at it.

godscop

loike wrote: »

what about second chances for the people he murdered?

They died sadly..wont come back. It wont change anything.

prinz

godscop wrote: »

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

He got his second chance after he killed the first person. He'd be out by now. There's a reason scum like him are kept locked up. They don't change.

Duggy747

I guess they weren't impressed with Peter Sutcliffe: The Musical

petes

godscop wrote: »

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

What kind of ****e are you talking? Leave him to rot.

bonerm

Duggy747 wrote: »

I guess they weren't impressed with Peter Sutcliffe: The Musical

It was no Jack the Ripper : The Musical

"You're a naughty one, Saucy Jack! You're a haughty one, Saucy Jack!"

prinz

godscop wrote: »

They died sadly..wont come back. It wont change anything.

They didn't "die", they were viciously murdered.

Yakult

godscop wrote: »

I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

Ok.

I have serious problems when someone who has harmed/sexually abused some gets released from jail after 10 years (or whatever the gammy sentencing here is) but jesus christ, murdering 13 women??? He deserves to rot in a prison cell for that and suffer in hell untill he's sad excuse for a life comes to a end.

He should remain behind bars for the remainder of his life.

carfiosaoorl

And when they release him he can move in next door to you!

nosey rosie

He's safer on the inside... its a pity they don't let him out.
Mind you I once lived in Bradford... what a sh***y hell-hole of a town, it would drive anyone to murder.

ejmaztec

godscop wrote: »

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

Only if the other inmates are allowed to give him a going-away party the night before he's released.

godscop

20 life terms is a bit harsh for what people get for murder today. He didnt kill any children.

Robbo

Sutcliffe and Malcolm McArthur really set the trend for dapper murderers in bow ties. Adds a bit of class to proceedings.

Duggy747

godscop wrote: »

20 life terms is a bit harsh for what people get for murder today. He didnt kill any children.

The women he killed were somebody's children. He should rot for the amount of lives he has ruined.

Smyth

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DrumSteve

the man murdered 13 women. Who cares if there no children? He will hopefully die of a long painful illness.

prinz

godscop wrote: »

20 life terms is a bit harsh for what people get for murder today. He didnt kill any children.

13 murders, 7 attempted murders, and 2 more known about that he wasn't charged it. Youngest murder victim was 16. Diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic and claimed voices told him to kill. He's not in a prison but a mental institution.

His 20 life terms is gone. It was changed last year to one life term....his life term. The only way he will leave official custody is in a box.

If you want to troll there are better examples.

godscop

godscop wrote: »

Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5kPUFxXYLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc

bonerm

Robbo wrote: »

Sutcliffe and Malcolm McArthur really set the trend for dapper murderers in bow ties. Adds a bit of class to proceedings.

Ted Bundy also scrubbed up quite well.

Wagon

Oh for fúck sake, he killed 13 people! Let him rot!

You should get a job as a judge here. You've got the right stuff.

Robbo

It really shows how far you can fall after being kicked out of the Beatles.

Motley Crue

bonerm wrote: »

Ah well, he took a stab at it.

banned

Smyth

You people are getting trolled.

Successfultrollissuccessful

bonerm

Robbo wrote: »

It really shows how far you can fall after being kicked out of the Beatles.

If he'd hung there he might have even played for Wings one day.

biko

Attacking women from behind? He can rot the coward.

"God had told him to murder the women", yeah right.

Einhard

Robbo wrote: »

Sutcliffe and Malcolm McArthur really set the trend for dapper murderers in bow ties. Adds a bit of class to proceedings.

They really raised the bar for aspiring serial killers alright.

bonerm

Motley Crue wrote: »

banned

♫ .... on the run ♫

Links234

prinz wrote: »

He got his second chance after he killed the first person. He'd be out by now. There's a reason scum like him are kept locked up. They don't change.

didn't think I'd find myself thanking one of your posts prinz

prinz

Links234 wrote: »

didn't think I'd find myself thanking one of your posts prinz

Careful now, you don't want to venture to far to the dark side :pac:

sensibleken

biko wrote: »

Attacking women from behind? He can rot the coward.

"God had told him to murder the women", yeah right.

It could have been god. it wouldnt be the first time hes done something like that and it wouldnt even be the worst

saintsaltynuts

godscop wrote: »

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

No he doesnt deserve a second chance you must be mad or just plain taking the phish or a stupid bloody do-gooder that never leaves their house.

Links234

prinz wrote: »

Careful now, you don't want to venture to far to the dark side :pac:

I thought I was already on the dark side? being some sort of godless lesbian satanist deviant or whatever

godscop

People get murdered and the sentance they get is a joke. He killed a few more than the average, but its years ago. He is no danger now.

nosey rosie

The only guy who deserves a second chance, is the guy who blinded Peter Sutcliffe. Give him another chance... to put the other eye out.

prinz

Links234 wrote: »

I thought I was already on the dark side? being some sort of godless lesbian satanist deviant or whatever

Well you know your dark, my dark. Light side then. Whichever side, you're always welcome in it for a visit or a stay

prinz

godscop wrote: »

He is no danger now.

He is. That's the point.

carfiosaoorl

OP I think you're full of sh!t, nobody could actually think that:rolleyes:

HavingCrack

Stop feeding the troll.

Links234

prinz wrote: »

Well you know your dark, my dark. Light side then. Whichever side, you're always welcome in it for a visit or a stay

or how bout you come over to my side?

HavingCrack wrote: »

Stop feeding the troll.

aw but he looks hungry

HavingCrack

Links234 wrote: »

aw but he looks hungry

He's had far too much to eat already, he won't finish his dinner :pac:.

walshb

godscop wrote: »

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

Yeah, I agree, he's a sound skin, let him out!

ColmDawson

You are all being trolled and should stop posting in this thread.

prinz

Links234 wrote: »

or how bout you come over to my side?

I've been there. I still get very close to the egde sometimes :eek:. Anyway, stop the flirting .

Sykk

godscop wrote: »

Sutcliffe, now 64, received 20 life terms for the murder of 13 women and the attempted murder of others in Yorkshire and Manchester. I think he has served his time and should be set free. Everyone deserves a second chance even him.

No wonder people in this country aren't able to get jobs

godscop

Why wasnt he just hanged ? Whats the point keeping him locked up ?

hoorsmelt

Actually, he was found to have been suffering from paranoid schizophrenia when he committed the murders, and has been in a secure psychiatic hospital since 1984. In 2009, his doctors certified that he could be released without any risk to the public. For the crime of murder, there are strict mental ingredients including pre-meditation, criminal recklessness or criminal negligence, which need to be satisfied before a charge for murder will stand, and the actions of someone who's suffering from mental illness may not fulfil those criteria. In such cases, depending on the crime and the surrounding circumstances, they may be found guilty of manslaughter with diminished responsibility, found not guilty by reason of insanity and confined to a secure psychiatric unit until cured or deemed fit for release, or else found not guilty altogether where there is evidence of a blackout or loss of control which was temporary and not induced by the defendants actions. With Sutcliffe, I think he should be released under strict supervision and with regular check-ups, as someone is entitled to have their actions judged under different criteria when suffering from an illness like paranoid schizophrenia. Not popular but there's my 2 cents for what they're worth.

Links234

prinz wrote: »

I've been there. I still get very close to the egde sometimes :eek:. Anyway, stop the flirting .

you've been there? really? (are we talking about the same thing here?)

thebigbiffo

actually, the more i think about this the more i would like to see him released.

he wouldn't last a day before someone gouged his eyes out with a hot poker. that'd be a result and he wouldn't cost the british taxpayer another penny. win win.