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Help save the Nurburgring

  • 08-01-2011 12:56am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭


    lifted from another forum , anyone else heard of this?

    "Hi everyone,

    Some of you may be aware of problems at Nurburgring, and some may not.

    To put it bluntly the Ring (As we know it by) was taken over in 2007 by two business men, unfortunately they know nothing about motor sport, have no passion for the ring and only want to make money.

    They have only made things worse, owing over 350 Million Euro's which they do not have and forcing the people of the Ring to pay this back.


    The future doesn't look good, testing by manufacturers has tripled in price and some are looking at pulling away from the Ring, leaving the heritage behind whilst these business men make things worse.

    I have been in constant contact with the Schmits family over the last few weeks and received information from the Nurburgring Mayor with the official letter sent to Joaquin Almunia, the Vice-President of EU-Commission.

    I have started an official petition for enthusiasts in the UK and around the rest of the world to sign so it can be submitted to the
    [FONT=&quot]EU-Commission asking for the EU to step in and get control of the situation and hand back the Nurburgring. The Nurburgring is needing all the support it can get.

    If you have ever been to the Nurburgring, or want to please find 5 minutes to sign the petition. It will require your full name and email address, anything else is optional. Nothing is passed on to 3rd parties but this information is needed to be seen as an e-signature and counted.

    This has only been set up tonight, so please pass it on to as many people you know in as many countries you know.

    Thank you for your time in reading this and all the best for 2011


    Link to petition

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot]http://www.gopetition.com/petition/41698.html[/FONT] "


    taken from here.. http://www.xrstyle.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=38705
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    anyone else think this is a load a ****e for some reason?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    bmw535d wrote: »
    anyone else think this is a load a ****e for some reason?

    I do hope so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    bmw535d wrote: »
    anyone else think this is a load a ****e for some reason?

    The above looks like something written by a teenager.....The two bad business men just out to screw everyone....

    The RING is an institution in Germany. It would be like us getting rid of the Seanad.....Oh wait :p

    EDIT: The above I'm referring to is the piece quoted by the OP


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    All the boyracers are at home home in their 'Roary the Racing Car' pj's crying into mammys arms tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    The above looks like something written by a teenager.....The two bad business men just out to screw everyone....

    The RING is an institution in Germany. It would be like us getting rid of the Seanad.....Oh wait :p

    yea it really does :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    bmw535d wrote: »
    yea it really does :rolleyes:

    Not by you, apologies, the piece the OP has quoted.

    Sorry my fault should of been clearer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Owenw


    Doom wrote: »
    All the boyracers are at home home in their 'Ich bin die Stig' pj's crying into Sabines bosom tonight

    F, Y and indeed P
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    if you google "save the nurburgring" there are plenty of results, it does seem to be a real problem, but it appears to have been blamed on 2 people who wanted to build a theme park beside the track,
    they then say that visitor numbers where faked and show results from 1994-2001, which seems to be 9 years before these guys took over,
    im not sure who was in the wrong here, the charge a fortune to drive on it and charge another fortune if you crash and damage their barriers,
    i have no idea how they could lose so much money:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Was very very sceptical when I read this earlier so have since done some digging and sadly there is truth behind it.

    SaveTheRing - facebook page
    SaveTheRing Website

    And Sabine Schmitz's Christmas message - something that really couldn't be faked :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    OMFG - it's a road! How the **** do you mess up running a road? It can't take that much to maintain it and they were already charging plenty when I drove it in 2005. Crazy Germans....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    What kind of price you talkin about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Owenw


    OMFG - it's a road! How the **** do you mess up running a road? It can't take that much to maintain it and they were already charging plenty when I drove it in 2005. Crazy Germans....

    Like this (read from bottom up):
    Chronicle of Main Events:

    20-Aug 2010: The Rheinland-Pfalz county hands another 40 Million Euro loan to Nürburgring GmbH.

    22-Jun 2010: The prosecution of Rheinland-Pfalz starts investigations (fraud) against 9 persons including Kai Richter.

    09-Jun 2010: Richter/Lindner introduce a new homepage for nuerburgring.de, the layout is the one we currently see.

    01-May 2010: For the first time in the Ring´s long history privateers take over control.

    27-Apr 2010: An alternative Nürburgring concept is presented in Mainz along with highlighting the concerns of the planned setup. I was part of the working group and our goal was to show alternative ways to run the Nürburgring.

    25-Mar 2010: The contracts with Kai Richter and Jörg Lindner are signed to rent the Nürburgring for 20 years starting May 1st, 2010. At the same time the Gouvernment takes over all of the new facilities. Everything is now publically owned without any private investments.

    27-Dec 2009: Rainer Mertel dies with heart attack at the age of 64 after a hearing at the Commission of Enquiry concerning Nürburgring.

    17-Dec 2009: The previously announced price increase of tourist drives is being cancelled.

    09-Dec 2009: The County Gouvernment announces that the Nürburgring will be rented out to Jörg Lindner.

    02-Dec 2009: Walter Kafitz is being dismissed as head of Nürburgring GmbH.

    03-Sep 2009: Second big crash of the Roller Coaster during testing.

    03-Sep 2009: The State Parliament starts a Commission of Enquiry to investigate the Nürburgring projects financing. Up to today they have met 28 times.

    15-Aug 2009: Now the ring°werk is opened as well, however with a 50% price cut due to the non-working Roller Coaster, which was aimed as the main attraction.

    14-Jul 2009: The roller coaster has a big accident during testing.

    09-Jul 2009: Kurt Beck - Premier of Rheinland-Pfalz - opens the now called ´Nürburgring 2009´ leisure park during the German Formula 1 GP.

    07-Jul 2009: The two 100 Million Euro cheques proved to be false and Ingolf Deubel - Finance Minister Rheinland Pfalz - resigns.

    03-Jul 2009: Normann Böhm and Michael Merten request 4 Million Euro provision for two 100 Million Euro cheques they have handed to Nürburgring GmbH. After buying the premises they would rent it back. Walter Kafitz and Ingolf Deubel sign the money transfer, however it got stopped only by a mistake within the process.

    23-Jun 2009: The county Hessen informs about money laundering suspicion in relation to the projects financing.

    09-Jun 2009: Wilhelm Hahne, a local German automotive Journalist aged 76, receives a house search by Rheinland-Pfalz prosecution. Computers and cameras have been taken away.

    29-May 2008: The public bank RIM invests 3 Million Euro in Mediinvest. This got only known much later. In total RIM will invest 85,5 Million in Mediinvest.

    10-Dec 2007: Demolition of the Grand Stand.

    22-Nov 2007: The private Investor is being named. It is Kai Richter with his company Mediinvest. Now it is 135 Million public via Nürburgring GmbH and 80 Million private via Mediinvest.

    19-Nov 2007: The ´Erlebnisregion´ gains approval. Costs are now 215 Million Euro (120 Million private, 85 Million public).

    15-Sep 2007: A Flyer has been distributed in large numbers during the VLN 6-Hours race. It warns on the risks imposed on the Nordschleife.

    22-Mai 2007: German ´SPIEGEL´ publishes a criticle article on the oversized project. Costs are now projected at 150 Million Euro with a 50/50 split private/public.

    06-Mai 2004: Nürburgring GmbH and Gouvernment of Rheinland-Pfalz introduce a 200 Million Euro ´Erlebniswelt´ (Event World). Financing shall be 40 Million public and 160 Million private investment.

    Looks like we're not the only country with shady developers. :(


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